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The result was keep.  Sandstein  10:38, 14 March 2014 (UTC) reply

Betraying the Martyrs

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Despite playing some notable festivals, their one album hasn't charted and most of the sources appear to be either first-party or webzines. Unless someone can come up with something better, I don't think they're ready for an article. Invisiboy42293 ( talk) 21:07, 5 March 2014 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Jinkinson talk to me 21:27, 5 March 2014 (UTC) reply
Note: This debate has been included in the list of France-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 16:06, 6 March 2014 (UTC) reply
Keep. The band released on album worldwide via Listenable Records and Sumerian Records, two big labels for that genre. A second record is in work right now. The band toured Europe and North America several times, played on some bigger tours and festivals like Bonecrusher Fest (EU) and the Mayhem Festival (US/CA) and shared stage with acts like Dark Funeral, Carnifex, Asking Alexandria, Dance Gavin Dance, Veil of Maya and Born of Osiris to name few. To be lazy for looking for some better sources can´t be a significant reason for a deletion request. -- Goroth ( talk) 16:02, 7 March 2014 (UTC) reply
Please read WP:BAND. In order to be Wikipedia notable, they have to have either two major-label albums (announcing a second album isn't the same as actually having one), significant coverage of their touring in professional music publications (not webzines or blogs, and more than a couple of sentences), two or more notable sites with full articles on the band specifically, or all of the above, if possible. Until you can come up with that, they are not notable and my vote is still delete.-- Invisiboy42293 ( talk) 16:38, 7 March 2014 (UTC) reply
  • Keep while the nominator is right to note that a single Sumerian release, on its own, is not sufficient to hurdle WP:MUSIC, it is sufficient if that record hits the charts, as this one did. The sourcing for this article needs some cleanup, but that's not in and of itself reason to delete; one starting point could be this interview from Revolver Magazine. Chubbles ( talk) 21:49, 11 March 2014 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. Deathcore <yawn>, a genre already overrepresented because their audience is disproportionately plugged in. Never heard them, reviews don't tempt me. Even so, they tick an official notability box or two, and from what I can discern, their audience already seems to be a full order of magnitude larger than similar groups just on the cusp of notability that are discussed in AfD. -- Hobbes Goodyear ( talk) 01:57, 12 March 2014 (UTC) reply
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