- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. The "delete" !votes present a convincing argument that the German sources do not meet GNG. Randykitty ( talk) 16:42, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
Benjamin Kröni
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I can't see any credible reason why this person should be considered notable. I'll bet (I've little German but enough to read the titles) that most of the refs are about his 'business'. And I do not consider the Forbes list a real claim of notability; lists of this type are legion and I would estimate that a good fifty percent if people featured in them sink without trace TheLongTone ( talk) 15:17, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Businesspeople and Switzerland. Shellwood ( talk) 15:33, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
- Keep Looks like enough media independent coverage for establishing the subject's significance. The media are good and reliable in Switzerland and of national level. -- Loewstisch ( talk) 09:51, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - Simply not enough in-depth coverage to meet WP:GNG. Most of the Forbes' lists are complete garbage, this being one of them. I think there are like 1500 of them now. Onel5969 TT me 15:13, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- Comment Forbes lists are garbage, however German language news coverage (in addition to forbes) within the article is not superficial and rather good. Notability is visible. Mozzcircuit ( talk) 11:52, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Randykitty ( talk) 17:15, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete. For the reasons stated in the nomination. BoyTheKingCanDance ( talk) 02:12, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
- Keep: I have made some minor edits to the article. The person is kind of notable Switzerland-based person and the article has enough sourcing. In my point of view, Zürichsee-Zeitung, St. Galler Tagblatt, Limmattaler Zeitung, Handelszeitung, etc, are enough German-language media independent coverage.-- იაკობ მახარაძე ( talk) 09:19, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Randykitty ( talk) 10:14, 19 February 2023 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist. More opinions are welcome.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Timothytyy ( talk) 12:15, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
Keep: I have the same position that I've already stated above. Kind regards,- იაკობ მახარაძე ( talk) 16:34, 26 February 2023 (UTC) Someone with as many edits as you have should know by now that you shouldn't !vote twice in an AfD. -- Randykitty ( talk) 17:48, 26 February 2023 (UTC)- Delete I'm not seeing enough significant coverage to meet WP:BIO. LibStar ( talk) 05:18, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- Keep per German language weblinks which show a proper media coverage in Swiss national big news outlets. However, maybe some shortening of the company is preferred. Rodgers V ( talk) 14:36, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete There is no major coverage in national news outlets like Tagesanzeiger or NZZ, the main coverage is in regional outlets like Limmattaler Zeitung and St. Galler Tagblatt (they both re-print the exact same article which is common since they are owned by NZZ) - so overall I only see two newspaper articles one in Zürichsee-Zeitung and one in Limmattaler Zeitung / St. Galler Tagblatt and both are quite regional coverage; basically they cover the same event (winning the TV show). Also note that the article is in the Aargau regional section of the Tagblatt so likely not even distributed to all 100k readers but rather a subset of them. So I dont see any significant coverage over a longer period of time. Maybe this is WP:TOOSOON and if further coverage emerges beyond the one time event I think an article would be appropriate. -- hroest 19:02, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete. Coverage is regional or local, startups with fawning coverage are a dime a dozen. Sandstein 16:36, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
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