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The result was delete.
✗plicit 13:42, 2 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Tagged as {{
db-hoax}}, no Ghits outside Wikipedia under this title. Nevertheless, I am unable to make an informed decision whether this is a hoax as I lack the necessary language skills to evaluate the Turkish and Azerbaijani versions of the article. —
Kusma (
talk) 12:54, 26 May 2023 (UTC)reply
Support per the article talk page,
Beshogur states no information in either English or Turkish sources mentioning this battle. --
Kansas Bear (
talk) 13:03, 26 May 2023 (UTC)reply
Comment I can see sufficient Turkish sources to be confident that a battle took place there in 1387, but it’s not clear how significant it was.
Mccapra (
talk) 22:29, 26 May 2023 (UTC)reply
Comment. This machine translation from
here was unattributed – now remedied. I can't read Turkish, but
this source (page 223) confirms that there was an engagement at Çapakçur at this time; whatever else, this doesn't seem to be fully a hoax.
Justlettersandnumbers (
talk) 11:01, 27 May 2023 (UTC)reply
Comment If this article is kept, we will need hatnotes to distinguish it from the almost identically titled
Battle of Chapakchur. Otherwise, a redirect may be a good idea. —
Kusma (
talk) 12:08, 27 May 2023 (UTC)reply
Weak delete per Kansas Bear, but I have not checked whether the current sources verify the content, and several editors above appear to confirm such a skirmish took place in 1387. Nevertheless, the notability of the battle should be established, and the article should be moved to a more appropriate title.
Aintabli (
talk) 18:29, 27 May 2023 (UTC)reply
UTC)
Comment I have fixed cite 12 in the Turkish article (the source mentioned by Justlettersandnumbers above which is now at
https://dergipark.org.tr/tr/download/article-file/368093) and I see that in turn cites (their cite 20) "History of Tamerlane and His Successors" which is available in English but unfortunately not as an ebook
Chidgk1 (
talk) 18:13, 28 May 2023 (UTC)reply
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