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The result was delete. Michig ( talk) 15:34, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
Battle of Beit Lahia
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Fails GNG. Four unrelated list items based on social media posts. Sources do not mention a "Battle of Beit Lahia", most reference general events north of the area. Source eval:
Comments Source Social media post 1. @ytirawi (4 November 2023). "According to my source in North Gaza, it appears that Israeli ground forces are actively operating in North West Beit Lahia. They are launching heavy airstrikes on Masnhyya street as a mean of pressure" (Tweet) – via Twitter. Social media post 2. ^ @ytirawi (20 November 2023). "Israeli occupation forces shoot directly at a school just beside the Indonesian Hospital" (Tweet) – via Twitter. Does not mention anything called "Battle of Beit Lahia" 3. ^ Gritten, David (21 November 2023). "Israeli tanks surround north Gaza's Indonesian Hospital". BBC. Retrieved 20 December 2023. Social media post 4. ^ https://t.me/sarayaps/16713 Social media post 5. ^ @ytirawi (24 November 2023). "During the night, Israeli occupation forces raided the Indonesian Hospital in Jabalia Refugee Camp. A woman was killed, 3 individuals were injured, and 3 others were abducted to an unknown destination" (Tweet) – via Twitter. Social media post 6. ^ "Beit Lahia News Network" . Telegram . Retrieved 21 December 2023 . Social media post, dead link 7. ^ “Martyr Izz al-Din al-Qassam “Reserve” Brigades". Telegram. Retrieved 21 December 2023.
- BEFORE showed nothing about a "Battle of Beit Lahia". No objection to a consensus redirect. // Timothy :: talk 13:30, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Delete. Per nomination, the only valid sources offered fail to indicate that any distinct 'battle' took place. Any incidents reported were part of wider military activity, and could be reported, with the necessary context, in articles covering that activity. AndyTheGrump ( talk) 13:40, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Military, Israel, and Palestine. CptViraj ( talk) 13:45, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Keep: I will remove all the social media posts and replace with ISW sources which confirm the
battle in Beit Lahia. -
UtoD 15:50, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- The source you link there makes no assertion that there was any 'battle of Beit Lahia' distinct from the broader conflict. AndyTheGrump ( talk) 16:46, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Delete. The whole article seems to be WP:GNG-ing Beit Lahia fighting as separate from the rest of northern Gaza, which no source corroborates. Jebiguess ( talk) 22:58, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per Timothy, AndyTheGrump, and Jebiguess; perhaps merge information into Siege of Gaza City if it is not already there. I will add that a Google search for the exact string "battle of Beit Lahia" only returned pages directly related to this Wikipedia article, like List of engagements during the 2023 Israel-Hamas war and some person's edit history, in addition to an article describing some events in 2004 as such, and a work of historical fiction. SaintPaulOfTarsus ( talk) 14:43, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
- Delete, there's literally nothing that happened in Beit Lahia separate from the rest of the Siege of Gaza City. Nothing in this article that can be merged elsewhere either. - presidentofyes, the super aussa man 16:52, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
- Merge to 2023 Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip -- Not every event in this conflict is independently notable. This portion of the invasion has zero WP:SECONDARY analysis, and it is not named as a 'battle' even in primary sources. It cannot pass WP:GNG, much less WP:NEVENT. To be ready for mainspace, it would need strong secondary sources (plural) with WP:DEPTH, WP:PERSISTENCE and WP:GEOSCOPE, none of which are likely. Cheers, Last1in ( talk) 22:08, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
- Comment: While we are discussing this page, I wanted to ask whether a similar AfD would be appropriate for Battle of Beit Hanoun using many of the same arguments. Much like "Battle of Beit Lahia," the precise term "Battle of Beit Hanoun" does not exist in RS, including the page's own references, so it is not clear if it passes WP:GNG. (Feel free to strike this comment if it's not the appropriate place for it) SaintPaulOfTarsus ( talk) 09:43, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.