The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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The result was delete. This has a clear consensus to get rid of the article, but no clear consensus on whether to preserve some of the content in other articles given the split headcount and counterarguments by e.g AllyD. So this is a delete, but I'll be asking for comments at
WT:AFD on how to proceed in cases like these.
Jo-Jo Eumerus (
talk) 10:13, 28 March 2020 (UTC)reply
No evidence of passing
WP:NORG/GNG. BEFORE does not show any in-depth coverage, few mentions in passing at most. No referenced content to merge. No good redirect target (it is not mentioned in any other article outside of a 'see also'), so it fails
WP:R#PLA. Specifically I don't think
London Borough of Barnet would make a good redirect target, per cited R#PLA. Articles on cities or similar administrative divisions don't usually list random NGOs or other businesses that are located within their bounds. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|
reply here 12:24, 13 March 2020 (UTC)reply
Please stop copypasting generic and
WP:NPA-violating comments to various AfDS. I specifically address why a merge to LBoB is not a good idea. Did you read the op? If so, please address this argument directly. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|
reply here 11:13, 14 March 2020 (UTC)reply
You better tone down a bit, my friend. Too many of your deletion-nominations are based on faulty WP:BEFOREs. And your sequences of shot down PRODS followed up by an AfD or RfD are not really productive. The Bannertalk 14:05, 14 March 2020 (UTC)reply
Which section of the article do you want to merge it to, or how would you title the newly created one? Also, there is no referenced content to merge. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|
reply here 02:28, 15 March 2020 (UTC)reply
A new section called "Barnet Borough Arts Council". A 1 minute (literally) look at the official website (link helpfully provided in the article) suggests that everything in the article is going to be trivially verifiable - which you would have known if you'd done a proper
WP:BEFORE check.
Thryduulf (
talk) 02:37, 15 March 2020 (UTC)reply
The key issue you don't address is why the article on a local administrative district should have a section about one of many NGOs located with in. Pages about administrative divisions are not local YELLOWPAGES. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|
reply here 03:51, 15 March 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete - certainly delete this one, unless we want to grow as a "directory/phone book".
[1]GizzyCatBella🍁 05:53, 15 March 2020 (UTC)reply
Comment. Closing admin is advised to note that merge votes ignore, despite repeated requests, my explanation why the merge is not a valid solution.
WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT needs to be taken into the account. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|
reply here 03:38, 17 March 2020 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
xinbenlvTalk,
Remember to "ping" me 05:42, 21 March 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete: I do not see the substantial
coverage which could demonstrate this umbrella organisation of local groups meets
WP:NORG in itself. As to whether there is a suitable merge target, if there was a broader article on the arts in the area, then this organisation might be mentioned there, as could other initiatives such as the
Cultural Education Partnership. However my view is that
London Borough of Barnet is an unsuitable target, primarily because this organisation appears too distant from the council (quoting from this organisation's website: "We do not receive any regular revenue from the Borough of Barnet, but receive occasional grants for special projects, either from the Borough, Trusts, or the National Lottery."[2]); adding a "Barnet Borough Arts Council" section to
London Borough of Barnet as was suggested above would seem
WP:UNDUE, especially relative to other initiatives such as the Cultural Education Partnership (which I notice does not appear to mention this BBAC).
AllyD (
talk) 08:41, 21 March 2020 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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