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The result was keep. J04n( talk page) 19:46, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
BGS National Public School, Hulimavu, Bangalore
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Throughout its 8-year history, this article has been either extremely promotional (as it is currently), or less than three sentences long. It has never had any citations or sources, and it has questionable notability. LittlePuppers ( talk) 00:32, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. Lepricavark ( talk) 03:55, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Lepricavark ( talk) 03:55, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
- Speedy keep per long standing consensus on schools. Promotional tone is no reason to delete. There are enough sources to confirm its existence: 1 and 2, with mentions in other reputed sources as well. MT Train Talk 09:08, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
- Had the nominator done a
WP:BEFORE, they could've found more objective details of the school at the
CBSE website.
MT Train
Talk 09:44, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
- I apologize. I had done some reasearch, but I found little more than passing references. What do you mean by the "long standing consensus"?
WP:SCHOOL and
WP:NHS both point to
WP:GNG and
WP:ORG, as well as
WP:NGEO, which don't appear to have any special exceptions for schools. I also found
WP:SCHOOLRFC, which states that schools must meet
WP:GNG and not simply exist. It also states that we should aviod such reasoning as is at
WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES due to circular reasoning.
LittlePuppers (
talk) 11:07, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
- The second source goes on to mention the school receiving some top honors (
website), enough to make it notable. There's a claim of a British Council award, but I'm having difficulties finding RS.
MT Train
Talk 12:19, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
- Okay, I didn't see that either (all I saw was some recognition of the director and a few passing references). In that case, I might end up rewriting that whole thing - it's had a rather sad history. LittlePuppers ( talk) 21:12, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
- It doesn't appear that they have a British Council award, are you mistaking the link to a British Council website for learning English (in the footer) for that? Also, thanks for helping with this.
LittlePuppers (
talk) 21:27, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
- I haven't been able to find sources for the British Council award, so probably it was made up. Either that or it must've been a trivial award. But their name pops up several times in BC's website, so the school must be registered with them for evaluation. There's a print version of Deccan Herald about the school titled Going 'beyond academics' is the school's mantra in the school's website, which I tried to find in their archives, but could not. I believe that article has a host of good information, but accessibility is the issue due to the font size in the scan. MT Train Talk 08:21, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
- The second source goes on to mention the school receiving some top honors (
website), enough to make it notable. There's a claim of a British Council award, but I'm having difficulties finding RS.
MT Train
Talk 12:19, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
- I apologize. I had done some reasearch, but I found little more than passing references. What do you mean by the "long standing consensus"?
WP:SCHOOL and
WP:NHS both point to
WP:GNG and
WP:ORG, as well as
WP:NGEO, which don't appear to have any special exceptions for schools. I also found
WP:SCHOOLRFC, which states that schools must meet
WP:GNG and not simply exist. It also states that we should aviod such reasoning as is at
WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES due to circular reasoning.
LittlePuppers (
talk) 11:07, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
- Had the nominator done a
WP:BEFORE, they could've found more objective details of the school at the
CBSE website.
MT Train
Talk 09:44, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. Notability guideline for schools is: "In practice articles on high/secondary schools and school districts are usually kept, as they are almost always found to be notable, unless their existence cannot be verified in order to stop hoaxes." This applies here. Instead of deleting it, I would recommend improving it and fixing its problems. —
AnAwesomeArticleEditor (
talk
contribs) 22:59, 2 March 2018 (UTC)- See above for why I don't think 'this is what usually happens, so we should do that' is a good reason, but after discussion with Mark the train I've somewhat changed my position, and we've done some work to improve the article. I was considering withdrawing this from AfD, but I ended up not (for various reasons such as me having no experience with AfD, that it would probably end up with the same result, and me thinking (at the time, although I'm not entirely sure now) that Mark the train's speedy keep was somewhat similar, that others might have constructive comments, etc.). LittlePuppers ( talk) 04:03, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
- Delete not enough reliable source coverage to show notability. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 06:57, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
- What is your opinion of the sources currently in the article? LittlePuppers ( talk) 20:33, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
- Found out one more source on a dispute regarding the school by The Times of India's e-paper 1. MT Train Talk 06:59, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
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