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The result was keep. ♠
PMC♠
(talk) 22:45, 11 November 2018 (UTC)reply
Promotional, unreferenced since its creation ten years ago, reads like a press release,
WP:BEFORE shows little actual third-party coverage to meet
WP:CORP. No reasonable prospects of the article's problems being fixed organically. PROD removed with no effort to fix problems.
David Gerard (
talk) 23:15, 3 November 2018 (UTC)reply
Keep important historic company. there will be other references. Some of the currentmaterial should be reduced to eliminate the promotionalism /. DGG (
talk ) 01:05, 4 November 2018 (UTC)reply
Comment@
DGG: The argument of yours there will be other references is pretty much invalid for AfD per
WP:THEREMUSTBESOURCES. Either there are sources, or there are not.
Jovanmilic97 (
talk) 07:27, 4 November 2018 (UTC)reply
I would be delighted to be shown wrong, but first you have to do the actual showing. Will there be other references? Please produce some, enough to pass
WP:NCORP -
David Gerard (
talk) 10:14, 4 November 2018 (UTC)reply
Comment: I added a reference to a book where a paragraph discusses the company's changing manufacture approach. I was tempted to
WP:TNT the article down to only the couple of sentences which are supported by that reference, but left it for the time being in case others can find references to support the remaining claims and also render the text encyclopaedic. I don't regard the paragraph in the Bryson article, where the firm serves just as an example of wider changes, as sufficient for
WP:NCORP though.
AllyD (
talk) 08:37, 4 November 2018 (UTC)reply
Keep. Clearly needs some editing to reduce its promotional tone, but sufficient coverage in newspapers
[1][2][3], academic articles
[4] and books
[5][6] to meet
WP:GNG.
Qwfp (
talk) 10:35, 4 November 2018 (UTC)reply
Keep clearly a keep as they are royal warranted, well known manufacturer (in UK at least) who produced cutlery for titanic and currently UK parliament (see the star article) and as per above this just needs re-creating and referenced — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
2A02:C7D:C5F6:2700:DCBF:59BE:B586:1F35 (
talk) 06:59, 8 November 2018 (UTC)reply
Keep, google showing enough, for example
[7],
[8].
Szzuk (
talk) 12:57, 11 November 2018 (UTC)reply
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