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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 ( talk) 00:19, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
Anil K Reji
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Non-notable actor, no significant coverage in reliable sources and no evidence of satisfying WP:NACTOR. PROD contested by SPA who appears to have a close connection with the subject. GSS ( talk| c| em) 12:19, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. GSS ( talk| c| em) 12:20, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. GSS ( talk| c| em) 12:20, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. Multiple roles in significant films. Combined with Times of India article, that's enough in my opinion even without checking the Malayam language press. Ross-c ( talk) 15:02, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
- @ Ross-c: That 5 hours old TOI article came two days after I proposed this article for deletion and that clearly show how paid media works in India (this worth reading Paid news in India) and there are no evidence that the subject played a major role in films listed in the article and the first one Idukki Gold is not even verifiable. Am open to withdraw my nomination if you can provide just one more source that talk about the subject directly and in details. GSS ( talk| c| em) 15:27, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
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GSS: In response to your comment, I've read several sources on paid media in India, and like many countries there does appear to be a problem. However, I don't think we can reject that source unless, for example, there is a larger pattern of seeming abuse in relation to Wikipedia articles, leading to a rejection of
The Times of India as a reliable source. I don't believe it's up to us when discussing an individual nomination to reject sources based on suppositions. I'm prepared to look at this again if there is more evidence or if decisions are made about the sources themselves.
Ross-c (
talk) 15:43, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
- I'm just curious why there is no corresponding entry on local language WP, if coverage exists in Malayam language sources. --
Saqib (
talk) 16:19, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
- @ Saqib: because a Google news search for "അനിൽ കെ റെജി" returns with a grand total of one hit and that is not even reliable. I don't understand on what basis TOI claimed Remember the Malayali boy, Anil K Reji, who made news after acting in a soft drink ad with Virat Kohli and MS Dhoni? made news? when? where? I looked everywhere can't even find a single source that talk about it. GSS ( talk| c| em) 17:09, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
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GSS: Just because the news came 2 days after your nomination of deletion doesn't mean that it was paid. The lady who wrote the article was the same person who had put up a small write up of Anil in Deccan Chronicle 3 years ago just after the pepsi advertisement. Apparently she wanted to do one more article when she moved to TOI based on the recent works he did. Thus the article in Times of India. And in all the movies he worked for the character length was more than half of the movie and that too important ones. His facebook profile has also been verified. Just putting it out there. An actor who acted along with him in Idukki gold has a wikipedia page which has been verified. So Kindly requesting you to consider withdrawing the nomination. Thank you guys. — Preceding
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- @ Imakr.official: Seriously? can you provide that "Deccan Chronicle" source? FYI verified social media page/profiles has nothing to do with notability and none of the source claimed he played a major role in films listed in the article so for me this is simply a case of WP:TOOSOON for playing minor roles in some major films. Finaly do you mind disclosing your connection with the subject per the COI guideline? Thank you GSS ( talk| c| em) 06:57, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
- @ GSS: Hello GSS, My name is Ijaaz, Anil's friend/page manager for his Facebook page. Currently logged in to his profile iamkr.official. I am the one who started writing his wiki page along with another user named Hisham. We both mage his Facebook page. Yes, I can Understand that verified social media profiles has nothing to do with this, but I was just putting it out there. He has done an international advertisement and many national advertisements with well known names and production companies. He wasn't a big fan of self promotion, exactly why there weren't many articles on him back then. The movies he did had him playing lead roles. The movie Puthiya Niyamam had him playing the negative character opposite Mammootty. the latest one named KALY had him playing the role of one of the heroes with Shebin Benson. In Idukki Gold, he played the childhood role of a lead character, just like Shebin Benson. The Deccan Chronicle article was 3 years ago and was a newspaper article. I cannot manage to find the article on the internet from the archives. I still have an image of the newspaper clipping from when the e-paper link was still up back then. I started writing this page for him since this could give him a lot of notability in the industry. I understand all the points you've put across GSS. I would still like you to Kindly consider letting this page live based on what I have just written. Thank you.
- I'm just curious why there is no corresponding entry on local language WP, if coverage exists in Malayam language sources. --
Saqib (
talk) 16:19, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
- Delete Film actors are not given an automatic free pass over WP:BIO just because they exist — their ability to qualify for Wikipedia articles is determined by criteria at WP:ACOTRBIO. Apparently, this actor has had no significant role in any of the film which means clearly fails to meet WP:ACTORBIO. Actors with minor roles is not something that would be expected to have an article on English Wikipedia, unless they've large fan base or has some unique acting. Search doesn't produce any coverage and significant information in the independent reliable sources about the person so basically fails to meet GNG as well. This story is not enough to pass GNG. I can't see any significance as of now therefore NotJustYet. For what its worth, the page was created by a SPA and cites many dubious sources, so I suppose there is some COI issue. -- Saqib ( talk) 15:57, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:NACTOR, has not done any significant work to warrant a standalone article. FITINDIA 17:07, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
- Delete Created by an undisclosed paid editor it appears. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 05:58, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
- Delete--Fails NACTOR by a mile.This is a much significant AfD, in the sense that the sequence of the events in this AfD is a clear-cut evidence of paid-for-news in Indian circles, (esp. entertainment and biographical stuff) and the ever decreasing editorial independence, reliability and integrity of TOI. ~ Winged Blades Godric 13:18, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
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