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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Mdaniels5757 ( talk) 00:41, 17 June 2020 (UTC) reply

Adventist Health Portland

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This hospital doesn't seem to be notable. I can't find anything in a search for it except for trivial coverage and passing mentions in travel guides. There's nothing that passes general notability or NCORP though. Adamant1 ( talk) 15:35, 1 June 2020 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Oregon-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple ( talk) 14:14, 3 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Medicine-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple ( talk) 14:14, 3 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Architecture-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple ( talk) 14:14, 3 June 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete and redirect this and all the others like it to Adventist Health. No independently-sourced content, so nothing to merge. See close of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Adventist Health Hanford for precedent. Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 16:51, 3 June 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep per WP:NPOSSIBLE: Notability requires only the existence of suitable independent, reliable sources, not their immediate presence or citation in an article. The affiliation with Adventist Health is relatively recent in the organization's history--after 2012. If you search for its previous name, "Portland Adventist Medical Center", you will find at least a dozen secondary sources, like the ones listed below. BTW, I left out run-of -the-mill death announcements and sensationalized lawsuits. Cheers! — Grand'mere Eugene ( talk) 00:41, 4 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Portland Adventist Medical Center Find sources:  Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL
  1. Balsiger-Petersen-Shewbridge & Associates (1974). Portland Adventist Hospital/Adventist Medical Center, 10123 S.E. Market Street, Portland, Oregon 97216: Architectural Specifications. The Associates.
  2. "Hospital Finances Flashback: A Look Inside Adventist Health, Catholic Health Initiatives, CHE Trinity Health | The Lund Report". www.thelundreport.org. Retrieved 2020-06-04. Portland Adventist Medical Center serves eastern Multnomah County, an area where the low-income population is growing as gentrification elsewhere drives poorer residents of the Portland out of the central city. The 248-bed hospital and its affiliated clinics also provide services in Oregon's Clackamas and Washington counties and in Washington's Clark County. Adventist Medical Center ended its 2012 fiscal year with $193.4 million in net assets, up 3.5 percent.
  3. ProPublica, Mike Tigas, Sisi Wei, Ken Schwencke, Brandon Roberts, Alec Glassford. "Portland Adventist Medical Center - Nonprofit Explorer". ProPublica. Retrieved 2020-06-04.{{ cite web}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list ( link)
  4. "Bond plans". The World. 1979-06-30. p. 8. Retrieved 2020-06-04.
  5. "9OR5 - Portland Adventist Medical Center Heliport | SkyVector". skyvector.com. Retrieved 2020-06-04.
  6. HealthCare4PPL. "Portland Adventist Medical Center - Medical Group in Portland Oregon". www.healthcare4ppl.com. Retrieved 2020-06-04.{{ cite web}}: CS1 maint: numeric names: authors list ( link)
  7. Rojas-Burke, Joe (2010-05-24). "Report shows Oregon hospital infection rates". oregonlive. The Oregonian. Retrieved 2020-06-04.
  8. Foden-Vencil, Kristian. "Oregon Approves Legacy And PacificSource Merger". www.opb.org. Retrieved 2020-06-04. A fourth integrated system is currently in the works between OHSU, Tuality Healthcare, Portland Adventist Medical Center and several rural hospitals.
  9. "Adventist Health Portland in Portland, Oregon - General Acute Care Hospital Address and Contact". npino.com. Retrieved 2020-06-04.
  10. "1801887658 NPI Number | PORTLAND ADVENTIST MEDICAL CENTER | PORTLAND, OR |* NPI Registry | Medical Coding Library | www.HIPAASpace.com © 2020". www.hipaaspace.com. Retrieved 2020-06-04.
  11. "Bloomberg - Portland Adventist Medical Centr". www.bloomberg.com. Retrieved 2020-06-04.
  12. (a mention) daVinci robotic surgeries 2011Cecil, Neita. "Robotic surgery comes to MCMC". The Dalles Chronicle. Retrieved 2020-06-04.

Merge > Adventist Health using primary source provided with information about original name, founding, location, and merger in Adventist Health, whose article needs updating.19:56, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

  • Keep as per the multiple reliable sources coverage identified above that shows it has independent notability and merits a stand-alone article, imv Atlantic306 ( talk) 21:14, 6 June 2020 (UTC) reply
    One of the references cited above is literally just their contact information and another one is the coordinates of their helicopter landing pad. Seriously, what is "independent reliable sourcing that establishes notability" about either of those? Adamant1 ( talk) 13:18, 7 June 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. If anyone has built a modern 300-bed hospital facility without it being discussed at great length in the local newspaper, then I've never heard of it. The fact that nobody's yet looked in the 1970s archives of The Oregonian to find those sources does not mean that the subject is non-notable. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 20:48, 7 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Comment: I don't have access to the 1970s archives of The Oregonian, but I did search its website OregonLive and found 7 more solid resources in about 15 minutes. I'm confident WhatamIdoing is correct that there are probably many more in the archives. — Grand'mere Eugene ( talk) 22:36, 7 June 2020 (UTC) reply
  1. Bingham, Larry (2013-05-30). "Adventist Health breaks ground on East Portland medical plaza". oregonlive. Retrieved 2020-06-07.
  2. Healthcare, Tuality (2012-09-13). "Adventist Health opens JobCare Clinic in Hillsboro". oregonlive. Retrieved 2020-06-07.
  3. Oregonian/OregonLive, Fenit Nirappil | The (2013-01-28). "Adventist Health in Hillsboro joins network of preventive health care providers". oregonlive. Retrieved 2020-06-07.
  4. Rojas-Burke, Joe (2012-06-16). "Health reform: Portland collaborative lands $17.3 million health innovation award". oregonlive. Retrieved 2020-06-07.
  5. Oregonian/OregonLive, Katy Muldoon | The (2014-03-28). "New Parkrose Medical Plaza opens Monday in Northeast Portland". oregonlive. Retrieved 2020-06-07.
  6. Verzemnieks, Inara (2009-09-15). "A week at the Portland Adventist Community Services: Volunteering isn't always easy". oregonlive. Retrieved 2020-06-07.
  7. Peck, Dennis (2009-06-03). "Adventist Medical Center expands to keep up with need for ER, cardiac space". oregonlive. Retrieved 2020-06-07.
Cool, more trivial sources like the ones you posted above containing nothing but contact details. You should really familiarize yourself with what is considered trivial coverage. Instead of ref bombing a bunch of links to things that don't work for notability. Everything you linked to is extremely MILL. -- Adamant1 ( talk) 01:08, 8 June 2020 (UTC) reply
The first one in this list is 200 words on the construction of a new building. The last is 500 words on a US$94 million building expansion. (I haven't looked at the ones in between.) If you are seeing "nothing but contact details" at those links, then you might check your browser settings and ad blocker. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 04:45, 8 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Where did I say every link had nothing but contact details? The fact that only a few of them do is irrelevant. None of them should. Building expansions are just as trivial anyway. CORP specifically calls that kind of out as not notable. "of the expansions, acquisitions, mergers, sale, or closure of the business." Same goes for the subjects of every other link. I don't feel the need to waste my time on an in-depth analysis of them here though just because you and the other users aren't willing to put the proper research into your votes. -- Adamant1 ( talk) 05:03, 8 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Closed as keep but was asked to relist as quality of sources challenged. Extra eyes always useful.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 06:14, 9 June 2020 (UTC) reply
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