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The result was no consensus, neither here nor in the RFC referenced in the final comment. There's clearly an
WP:NPLACE argument to be made for a shopping mall of this magnitude, although I am skeptical that any coverage of shopping malls would be anything other than routine coverage that any other large shopping mall would get. If the guidelines are clarified, deletion of this article can be revisited. ~
Anachronist (
talk) 18:54, 10 September 2020 (UTC)}}reply
Looks like a great place, but the article does not meet
WP:GNG or
WP:BUILD: "Buildings, including private residences and commercial developments, may be notable as a result of their historic, social, economic, or architectural importance, but they require significant coverage by reliable, third-party sources to establish notability." Subject does not have coverage that meets significant coverage by reliable, third-party sources to establish notability.
WP:BEFORE revealed advertising,
WP:ROUTINE coverage of events and directory style listings. //
Timothy :: talk 02:41, 20 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete fails WP:GNG. coverage is routine.
LibStar (
talk) 01:08, 21 August 2020 (UTC)reply
'Keep Any mall of 700,000 sqft and 200 stores in the US would be kept. We have over 3000 mall articles and this is similar to many of them.
MB 03:48, 25 August 2020 (UTC)reply
CommentMB You're argument is
WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. If there are mall articles that don't meet
WP:N, then they should be deleted. If you have sources that meet
WP:SIGCOV for
WP:GNG that address the subject directly and in-depth, please post them.
!votes need to be based on sources, policies, and guidelines. I have nominated a lot of malls in the United States that lack
WP:N from
WP:RS.
Petaling Jaya is surrounded by the Malaysian capital, Kuala Lumpur to the east, Sungai Buloh to the north, Shah Alam , the capital of Selangor and Subang Jaya to the west and Bandar Kinrara (Puchong) to the south. It is in the middle of a developed area of 5,800,000 people with a GDP of US$55.5 billion. You think it lacks internet and online news sources? This is not some remote place. //
Timothy :: talk 02:11, 31 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanztalk 15:29, 29 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep, hsa multiple reliable sources, people calling for deletion have not proven how the sources are "routine" which itself is not a policy-based reason to delete. Ten Pound Hammer • (
What did I screw up now?) 07:49, 2 September 2020 (UTC)reply
Comment for closer: since there is an
RfC currently under discussion at AfD about what is considered proper sourcing for determining mall notabiity, it may be worth holding these open until that is finished. If a close is made, it would be very helpful for the RfC if you could explain how you evaluated the sources in terms of notability, routine, run of the mill coverage, and how you feel voting and !voting influenced this AfD. Thank you, //
Timothy :: talk 09:12, 4 September 2020 (UTC)reply
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