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The result was delete. § FreeRangeFrog ^croak 04:22, 20 December 2014 (UTC) reply

2014 World Junior A Challenge rosters

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What we have here is a list of people who are mostly non-notable. As a collective they are no more notable. I think it could make sense to list notable players (like scoring leaders or MVPs) on the main 2014 World Junior A Challenge page, but there's no value in listing the entire roster of each team. Tchaliburton ( talk) 01:09, 13 December 2014 (UTC) reply

The way I look at it, is a) the tournament hasn't started yet, so there will be more coverage once it does start. Secondly, in the future there will be many NHL draft choices out of this set. In previous years people have place the rosters on the tournament page, but it seems to make the page weighty, so I decided to split this off. Shootmaster 44 ( talk) 01:17, 13 December 2014 (UTC) reply

• Strong Delete - Merge any notable players into the main article, and preferably get a reference to the rosters. As Shootmaster 44 said, there might be more coverage after the tournament, so we don't need the article now (but it may be useful after the tournament). James1011R ( talk, contribs) 01:20, 13 December 2014 (UTC) reply

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I added several references for the players on some of the teams. I will continue working on it, but I am sure this must pass GNG by now. Shootmaster 44 ( talk) 02:37, 13 December 2014 (UTC) reply

• I'm not sure I see a roster page for a non-IIHF event as necessary. Reso lute 01:20, 13 December 2014 (UTC) reply
• Delete: That a number of these players might be notable in the future is a WP:CRYSTAL argument at best -- that'd be like advocating that a list of the students in my high school during my senior year is notable because there happened to be a future NHL First Team All-Star in it. In order to sustain notability, it needs to be demonstrated that multiple reliable sources discuss the subject in enough detail to satisfy SIGCOV, and I don't see it here: there are a lot of sources which only refer to the subject in passing. Ravenswing 06:38, 13 December 2014 (UTC) reply

This may very well be true. At least for the majority of players from the two Canadian teams and Team USA, these players would receive significant coverage in their local communities as they are the top players on their USHL and CJHL teams and most are NCAA commits. Also, since Denmark is sending the same team to this tournament, they are sending to the 2015 World Junior Ice Hockey Championships, they would be just as notable here as there. I do realize that, the Big 6 nations at that tournament bring up the notability though. At any rate, I would say if a delete vote is determined, either merge this into the tournament page or my user space, that way once it no longer WP:CRYSTAL, it does not need to be recreated. I honestly, don't care whether it appears on the tournament page or a standalone page, I was simply following the format of the World Juniors articles, as I don't like the look of the previous tournament pages. On previous tournaments, the rosters are poorly laid out. Shootmaster 44 ( talk) 17:58, 13 December 2014 (UTC) reply

• Merge: I'd just include it in the tournament article. GLG GLG ( talk) 07:03, 15 December 2014 (UTC) reply
• Delete This is just a long list of non-notable hockey players. Playing in this junior event won't make them any more notable. 204.126.132.231 ( talk) 17:03, 15 December 2014 (UTC) reply
• Delete I would have to go delete on this as I don't see the rosters of a non-IIHF tournament as being all that notable. Heck some of the lower level IIHF tournaments probably aren't either. - DJSasso ( talk) 17:53, 17 December 2014 (UTC) reply
• Merge With 2014 World Junior A Challenge. DMighton ( talk) 23:46, 18 December 2014 (UTC) reply

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