The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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The result was delete and redirect to
Jammu and Kashmir (princely state)#Demographics. The consensus is clear that the content doesn't belong here in its current form, however there's also opinion that a redirect to the appropriate section in the princely state will be beneficial. At a later point in time, should anyone want the content to create an article that meets requirements, then this can be undeleted and draftified to serve as a starting point. —
SpacemanSpiff 03:30, 19 July 2017 (UTC)reply
While census reports may have some use in an article about a particular country or place, WP is not a directory for maintaining such reports as stand alone articles for each state in the world.
1901_Census_of_Delhi_District is a similar census report and if consensus here is to delete the 1941 report, the 1901 should also be deleted. Atsme📞📧 12:45, 2 July 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete unless there's something historically significant about this specific census, it's just a collection of stats at the moment. LugnutsFire Walk with Me 16:19, 2 July 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep. We keep population figures, but current and historical. This is I suppose not the actual full census report, but a summary of the findings and thus appropriate for an encyclopedia . There is a very fuzzy line between including information about population based on census reports and including a summary of the reports. DGG (
talk ) 17:49, 2 July 2017 (UTC)reply
It's unfortunate that
WP:NOTSTATS doesn't mention anything about census results, one way or another. But the two examples it does give of valid standalone lists include opinion polling results for a US election -- which would seem to me to be of equal or less encyclopedic value than historic census results for a country or state. I see we do have
Category:Censuses in India as part of a vast structure -- which I've added it to this list. Keep.
Shawn in Montreal (
talk) 13:45, 3 July 2017 (UTC)reply
Weak delete. Can't find anything really significant about this particular census, especially given it looks very selective and incomplete.
Ajf773 (
talk) 21:23, 3 July 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete. This is literally a collection of statistics with zero context. No evidence of notability and
WP:NOTSTATS. No objection to userfying somewhere if an editor decides to add some context, but right now, it's just numbers. An encyclopedic article can't be just numbers. Note that the examples in NOTSTATS referenced by
Shawn in Montreal refer to splits from a main article. We sometimes split out statistics due to length. We never provide statistics as a standalone article unrelated to any other article with no context, though. Very different scenarios. ~
Rob13Talk 04:40, 4 July 2017 (UTC)reply
Yes, good point, thank you. I've modified my statement above accordingly.
Shawn in Montreal (
talk) 15:25, 4 July 2017 (UTC)reply
Strong Delete and Salt Completely non encyclopedic knowledge with no intrinsic meaning for the average reader. It duplicates what is already available on the web, with no additional knock on value, can be easily generated in software but provides no value. No use to data analytic as it is not detailed enough as its a aggregate summary, why not use the full size one, no tools on WP to extract meaning from it for the average schmoo, and no intrinsic meaning, that you can see at a glance for the average WP reader, including me. So why keep it? It a column of numbers!.
scope_creep (
talk) 22:00, 7 July 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete, subjective list, which does not show a notable relationship to a subject. A list that is only a collection of stats.
Kierzek (
talk) 22:10, 7 July 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep or merge most important statistics with
Jammu_and_Kashmir_(princely_state)#Demographics. Kashmir is and remains a very controversial issue in world affairs. Objective information about the pre-conflict demography can be useful in Wikipedia. --
RaviC (
talk) 23:34, 8 July 2017 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 07:56, 10 July 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete - While I understand the points of several of the keep !votes, I simply can't see how this particular article passes the guidelines in
WP:NOTSTATS.
Onel5969TT me 13:21, 18 July 2017 (UTC)reply
Weak keep with the caveat that the introduction that be expanded to indicate why this census is notable. Is this the last census during the British India era? Are caste demographics still kept in modern Indian census data? Are there demographic trends of note that can be mentioned? I don't think that a table of numbers alone, without context, can stand on its own. But with some expansion... caknuck°needs to be running more often 20:34, 18 July 2017 (UTC)reply
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