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You're confident that CharlieMuk was a sockpuppet? I see where the IP-identified user posted similarly at Phoenix Jones but sometimes new users accidentally log out and don't notice it. As well, would you mind taking a look at the dispute there and perhaps chime in as to whether the participants are behaving as they should and in accordance with policy? Colton Cosmic ( talk) 18:11, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
Hello Tnxman307, you might want to have a look at User talk:Seblodgett. The master from Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Seblodgett has just asked for unblocking of his and his students' accounts. Thanks — DoRD ( talk) 21:11, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
Any chance you could run a checkuser on the now-deleted username at Talk:Tim Worstall? He's popped up again twice, so I guess the account creation blocked thing isn't working too well. The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい) 01:05, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
It's 'cuhold'. :) T. Canens ( talk) 01:46, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
I tried to leave a message to the admin who blocked AA193 ( talk · contribs) but couldn't, I thinks Parsa1993 ( talk · contribs) is a sock of AA193 based on same numbers appearing in their names, shares same nationalistic POV and English, edits articles of same exact region. If you can please do a quick CU to see who this POV pusher is who uses different socks. Thanks.-- 182.177.15.242 ( talk) 02:37, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
You recently closed a sockpuppet investigation against User:AnAimlessRoad, [2] who was circumventing his site ban by editing from ip 77.99.63.125. You noted that editor hadn't been active for a couple days, and suggested I refile if he returns. Well, he has. [3] Do you recommend I refile? Thanks. Homunculus ( duihua) 02:57, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
You have deleted an article titles Urimai Kural in august 2009. Now I would like to start the article with fresh content. So Please Unlock the page. Balaji (Let's talk) 09:46, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
Did you read my evidence on Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Meowy or did you just skim through it? The only connection between Wikiboer and Meowy is not interest in Armenia-Azerbaijan, but also their interest in relatively obscure topics such as Assyrians and their genocide. Moreover, shared interest in Armenia-Azerbaijan topics does not explain why both of the users vehemently insists on downplaying the Georgian origins of various Georgian institutions and sites.
As I can see, Meowy has had plenty of investigations on his name and I hope that you are not dismissing me just because you don't feel like doing another one. The apparent syndrome of impunity is probably what causes these users to be as combative as they are with me and others on various talk pages.-- Krosenstern ( talk) 21:04, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
Hi Tnxman. I've only filed a couple of SPI reports, and feel pretty uncertain about what's required or even how to go about the process properly; the interface isn't easy to decipher, as you know. But more to the current point, I'm sure you know that apparent "throw-away accounts" that are used for just a day or two are ubiquitous in the Israel/Palestine topic area. Sean.hoyland and I, whose edits tend to support one side of the conflict, and AnkhMorpork, whose edits tend to fall on the opposing side, are all of the opinion that Top of the Tower ( talk · contribs) is the latest example. The account's second edit was this revert of a much-contested "recent flare up" in the topic area; Sean suspects NoCal100 as the sockmaster.
Is this a sufficient basis for asking for a check? If not, I don't see how the topic area can avoid being overwhelmed by day-use and short-term-use and sleeper socks. A check would be appreciated in this specific case, of course, as well as more general guidance. What can we do when a new account shows up in the topic area, and jumps into the thick of the latest "flare up" or controversy article in that topic area, with reverts from the outset, for example? My experience with previous SPI reports has been that just saying, "this doesn't look like a new user; we think it might be a NoCal sock" gets shot down for lack of specificity. But when a few people are creating hundreds of socks, and using them for just 10 - 20 edits over a day or two, what chance is there for anyone to be more specific? How can one compile "behavioural evidence" based on so few edits?
Do we just have to throw up our hands when we see what looks like an instance of this strategy? Do we have to wait until the user has made his ten or twenty edits and moved on? Or is it permissible to ask for a check right away when a new account shows up and makes comments that indicate significant prior experience, for example, or performs reverts at controversial articles in his first few edits? Sorry to be so long-winded in asking, but the problem is so endemic to the topic area that I've thought seriously about just giving up on it, abandoning the topic area entirely. With 1rr restrictions in place on these articles, the effect of one's edits can easily be nullified by this short-term/day-use socking strategy. Trying to contribute to the topic area in a responsible way just seems futile if there's no effective way to respond to it.
Finally, I'll add that although I'm a fairly experienced user by now, I've been very reluctant to file SPIs, because some clerks and checkusers have been very free with off-the-cuff remarks to express an opinion that an SPI has been filed in bad faith, as an attempt to harass a POV opponent, and suchlike. That introduces quite a strong chilling effect, and clerks are never reprimanded for saying such things, even when they're very demonstrably wrong. It's my own opinion that socking is such a tremendous problem for the project that it's just really poor behaviour for anyone to take the least offence at being the subject of an SPI. My own response, the one time someone suggested I might be socking was a very polite, "If you feel you have grounds, please do file an SPI."
Sigh. Sorry to vent; the whole topic is just an extremely frustrating one to me. I've informed the "tower" account of my post here, btw... Any guidance you can offer on any of this will be most appreciated. Thanks, -- OhioStandard ( talk) 09:41, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
Well, let me answer some of OhioStandard's general questions/points first. Filing SPIs can be tough if the sockmaster is creating throwaway accounts. It makes it harder to track behavioral clues and patterns. However, because we try to assume good faith, we can't investigate every new account that shows up. I wish I could offer some hard and fast guidelines of "assume good faith here, suspect socking there".
Secondly, if you feel that anyone working on an SPI (including myself) wasn't helpful, please let me know or post to WT:SPI. We do see cases where different editors on opposite sides of debates will file harassing/pointless SPIs, and yes, they do get frustrating. However, we're still here to help, so let us know if something's wrong. Finally, as the specific request, it's Likely that Top of the Tower ( talk · contribs) and I Wanna See The Real India! ( talk · contribs) and Ron Cracker ( talk · contribs) are the same. Since they are using multiple accounts to edit the same topic area, I've blocked them. All of the NoCal100 socks are Stale, so I can't comment on a connection there. TN X Man 15:21, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
I am in the process of creating a new article for this recently deceased, and notable, bluesman. See [4] and [5]. However, an article in this same name was deleted by you - I have no problem with that. Previously you were meant to contact the deleting editor to ask permission to create a 'proper' article, but it seems the criteria has changed. I am unsure how to proceed. Do I now have to use another article name (eg. Michael Burks (musician)) ? Help !
Derek R Bullamore ( talk) 12:21, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
Hello Tnxman307,
I requested for a sockpuppet investigation for Iaaasi on 04 may, 2012, which is still open without having commented on it by any administrator. User:Jaro88slav of the suspected sockpuppet isn't blocked yet, and there is a new user , User:MalusDacus111, who I think is a sockpuppet of Iaaasi's, for which I still can't ask for any investigation as even the older case is still open.-- Nmate ( talk) 12:13, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
Hi Tnxman307,
Would you please take a look at
this unblock request on Egg Centric's talk? They were blocked indef for socking but have stated their case which seems to be within bounds of policies. I'm not asking for you to review the block but instead to see whether checkuser should be applied here. Thank you,
⋙–Berean–Hunter—► 15:26, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
Hello Tnxman,
You ran the checks here, and now I see that there's another related case here. I'm inclined to think that they're the same person, but I don't know why the master in the second case wouldn't have shown up before. Unless they're unrelated, of course. If you wouldn't mind, please take a look at the second case when you get a chance and let me know if it's worth another check. Thanks! — DoRD ( talk) 18:55, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
Always try to add non exist party in List of Vietnamese political parties, Template:Vietnamese political parties and Democratic Progressive Party (disambiguation) event already be ban in vi and zh by doing so. Sorry I don't use to en wiki yet so I don't yet know where to put this so I already put this here if that wrong place please let me now where is right place. Sorry for my english skill. Tnt1984 ( talk) 05:55, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
I think its classic Cui bono but here is something interesting [ [6]] its like he anticipated this.You don't feel that all this evidence is enough for duck test?-- Shrike ( talk) 20:09, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
Pardon me if i'm wrong, but I you want a war fine by me as long as you do it on your own talk page. Don't mess up this gentleman's talk page. If any of you need support on this topic, I'm an expert at it (I used to have great wars with Users). Apologies to Tnxman307 and you guys if i'm wrong. My User Page: My Talk Page: My Contributions
Since you often take part in SPI cases I figured that you'd be able to answer this question on policy. Can a syop with CU tools perform CUs on accounts on a regular basis at the email request a single editor? In other words, the editor requesting the CU does not file an SPI but rather, contacts a Syop by email and asks for a CU and the Syop acts on that request regularly. Is that appropriate?-- Jiujitsuguy ( talk) 19:49, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
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Hello. I'm the user called Grace Saunders. I'm banned but I'm trying to appeal against the ban as it's not fair. My main user name is 45g. Grace has no contributions. Michaeldsuarez keeps on tagging IP pages with claims I'm a sock puppet when I'm just trying to get personal info removed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:64.252.6.137 Michaeldsuarez basically has been harassing me with other well-known hackers / trolls from Encyclopedia Dramatica. Look at the history edits. Some are by him. In my opinion, he is not a real mod and only ever seems to edit on ED related pages on Wikipedia. http://encyclopediadramatica[dot]se/Grace_Saunders Should this continue, legal intervention may be necessary. But I'm not making threats. I'm trying to get this issue resolved in a way that legal action isn't needed. The address for Wikipedia is on the who.is database. Thank you. 78.148.98.14 ( talk) 21:12, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
OK. And may I ask what's your "relationship" with ED and myself then? Do note I am very close to finding out who their host is as I've been in contact with the founder of the J. Evers blog and other companies, so don't you fear. 78.148.98.14 ( talk) 15:37, 15 May 2012 (UTC) I'll be seeking legal aid, by the way. The reason being Michaeldsuarez harasses me online on both here and Encyclopedia Dramatica, this site appears to be run by corrupt mods and users get banned for no reason. Check every single one of the edits by my so-called socks. None of them were used abusively at all. All of my edits are actually just my attempts to remove libel and slander on the other user pages and chat pages, since my original accounts got blocked. The original account Grace Saunders was registered in 2005 but never used until 2010 because it was just there. It was not an alt. It was not a sleeper. It wasn't anything! 45g was my account. Up until Snaisybelle come, I NEVER had any issues on Wikipedia. I was hoping this could get resolved peacefully, but it's been 2 years now and nobody has unblocked me or deleted the objectionable comments. So this means I can get a court order to do it. RE: First time legal aid seeker... To see messages related to this one, group messages by conversation. 17/05/2012 Reply ▼ David Mackay Add to contacts To 'peter.a@hotmail.co.uk' From: David Mackay (MackayDa@slab.org.uk) Sent: 17 May 2012 08:52:09 To: 'peter.a@hotmail.co.uk' (peter.a@hotmail.co.uk) You should read the legal disclaimer at the end of this e-mail about the terms and conditions that apply to it. Dear Peter Anderson Thank you for your email dated 16th May 2012. The Scottish Legal Aid Board does not give legal advice directly – that is done by solicitors. We manage the legal aid system. First you need to visit a solicitor that provides legal aid. You can use our web site www.slab.org.uk to locate a legal aid solicitor near to you or you can call our help line on 0845 122 8686. You can also use the web site to check your financial eligibility with our 'online calculators' or you can call our financial assessment unit on 0845 123 2330. There are two types of legal assistance that you might use. The first is “advice and assistance” from a solicitor. A solicitor will tell you if you are financially eligible for this. Secondly, there is “civil legal aid” where a solicitor acts for you in court. Again this needs to be applied for via a solicitor. But we will receive the application from them and then advise you if you are - financially eligible - and whether or not you have a legal basis for your case. To receive civil legal aid you must be both financially eligible and have a legal basis. If you would like copies of our leaflets, please forward your postal address, alternatively the information is also available from our web site. Another useful website is the Citizens Advice Bureau www.adviceguide.org.uk/scotland, which gives information on various common legal problems. I hope this is of assistance. Yours sincerely
Hi Sent to general e-mail Acknowledgement sent Thanks From: Peter A [mailto:] Sent: 15 May 2012 17:59 To: General Subject: First time legal aid seeker... Hello... How do I get legal aid in regards to a website in America? I'm a first time legal aid seeker. I did a Google search for it and I found your site. Appreciate any help. Regards, Mr. Peter Anderson. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com ______________________________________________________________________ 78.148.101.209 ( talk) 00:01, 18 May 2012 (UTC) |
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I see that on January 11 you blocked the IP address 195.195.247.150 with a hard block. Now MangoMouseMiner can't edit there. Wha's the background of this block? עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 12:16, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
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Thanks for your contributions, Tnxman307. SwisterTwister talk 22:19, 20 May 2012 (UTC) |
Hi, back in January when User:Slamdunk03 was permanently blocked due to vandalism and personal attacks. User:Cyrus35334 tried to appeal the block because he said it was his "cousin" using the same computer which you declined [11]. Prior to that Cyrus35334 also attacked me in the same manner that Slamdunk03 did [12], even slighty racial [13]. More recently, Cyrus35334 has done the same; [14], [15], [16] to name a few I believe. On top of that this user has uploaded quite a few copyvio files in the past. All of these have gone without warning or punishment. I think action should be taken, more so if it's really his "cousin" that's also using the account Cyrus35334. Banana Fingers ( talk) 17:05, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
It looks like Purplewowies is being affected by this IP block. The account was not blocked directly. Without of course revealing any identifying information, could you just give a yes or no to whether setting ipblock-exempt for this editor would be a good idea? Seraphimblade Talk to me 19:22, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
Hey Tnxman, can I ask you a favor? I blocked Bvquach ( talk · contribs) thinking they were Dragon2016 ( talk · contribs), but I think I may have been wrong. You wielded your magic wand at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Dragon2016/Archive, and I'm wondering if you'll wield it again--preferably to prove my block incorrect. Thank you much, Drmies ( talk) 21:28, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
Good day Tnxman, you didn't answer my questions. I suppose you've forgotten about me by now, with all the meeting and greeting you must do each day!
Anyhow, I've got another for you if you get the time to answer please. I've got a couple of photos I want to add to an article, but the editor doesn't seem to give me the option to select one from my local drives. Is there an easy way to get pictures up there?
Mr Brickolage (
talk) 08:47, 24 May 2012 (UTC) Blocked as a sock of user
DeFacto. --Ohiostandard, 15:16, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
Hi, Tnxman. I want to apologise for not saying "thank you" or following up on your reply to my previous question, viz. Unsure of how to handle suspected day-use socks. I'm sorry I didn't say so sooner; I had plumbers and builders in at the time, to do some remodelling of the homestead. It was quite a mess for a while, everything all ahoo, and I'm embarrassed to say that I let several threads slip where I ought to have expressed thanks. So thank you! -- OhioStandard ( talk) 14:18, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
I understand your arguments on some of the information on the page not being entirely objective, but I feel like a lot of information that was already on there you erased was relevant. Like the two dates that became one etc. Do you think I can put it up there again? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Draek ( talk • contribs) 21:02, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
I didn't notice it until now, but you were the closer of this SPI case. You closed by blocking the open proxies of two accounts (likely to be the same person) and asked me to notify you if they edited again. I didn't notice, but if you look at the editing history of Aburizal Bakrie, you can see that User:Thamrin2 has been editing after your proxy block. Perfectly fine edits, yes, but it just raises my suspicions of being Kohs. Silver seren C 19:14, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
I sent you quite a lot of details. Please keep email private. -- Thine Antique Pen ( talk • contributions) 21:57, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
Hi Tnxman. Will you comment at the above talk page please? Thanks, Tiptoety talk 23:30, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
Hi, Tnxman. I've messaged JamesBwatson regarding this user thinking they were the blocking admin. If you have any input on the matter I'd be interested in your ideas. Thanks Tide rolls 02:28, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
Hi, I came across the following pair of pages Drew32/ Drew32 (musician). Drew32 was deleted as the contributor Trustcitedonce was blocked by you. I don't know the best way to proceed, Drew32 (musician) is a clear recreation of Drew32 but as it wasn't deleted via a discussion it can't be deleted via {{ db-repost}}. Any advice? Thanks. Tassedethe ( talk) 22:02, 2 June 2012 (UTC)