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Wednesday May 15th 18:54
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It seems you have attracted a fan club/shadow/stalker. -- Tbeatty 05:20, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Due to the rampant edit warring, I've locked your user page. If you'd like me to make an edit onto the user page, let me know. MessedRocker ( talk) 01:42, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
Just to make crystal clear - I would be very grateful if you would please remove the link to my userlinks and contribs on your user page. Thank you. -- User:RyanFreisling @ 01:50, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
Yeah...TDC...can you take down the links...I can detail all this if you want, but I'm rather tired now...-- MONGO 02:06, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
Ryan, might I remind you that this entire shit storm began when you decided to begin posting links to my edits on your userpage and involving yourself in a third party dispute.
If you wanted me to remove them, you could have asked nicely (as you have done now). I have not been avoiding this, as I usually don’t edit from home and stop once I leave work. There is no reason to involve anyone else who was not a party of the original debate (but thanks for everyone’s involvement, seriously) and do onto me what you would like done onto you.
I will remove (or anyone else can if I am not available) the links, and consider this matter closed. Torturous Devastating Cudgel 13:54, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
I think you made your point, probably best not to antagonize further. I am recommending to him that he either ignores you, or takes up the discussion on the appropriate discussion pages. I don't think it's inappropriate to point out inconsistencies in policy application, I've done it myself. But it's best to make your point, and then let it go. Be the water. - Crockspot 20:15, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
I'm writing to let you know that Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Commodore Sloat has been resolved and archived. Thanks for participating. Bigglove 23:56, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
After processing your report at WP:AN3RR, it's clear to me that you and the user you reported are both edit warring. Given your history of being blocked for 3RR, I've blocked you for 1 week. As always, you can request an unblock with {{unblock|your reason here}}. Heimstern Läufer (talk) 22:54, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
[11] See the checkuser and associated RfArb.
I have decided to take your case at Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2007-09-07 Mark Lane (author). I would like a short statement from you-- Phoenix 15 13:32, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
I think this thread is misplaced. 3RR is a tool that we use to prevent edit-warring, but violating the rule is not the evil; edit-warring is. If either of you is edit-warring, then you both are, and the proper course of action is to stop editing the article and take it to the talk page until a consensus is achieved. A third opinion or a request for comment may be necessary, but futher reverts probably won't help.-- Chaser - T 22:38, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
Hi, TDC. Would you be interested in improving article Communist terrorism? It does not mention even Red Brigades. I also left a couple of my notes at the talk page of "Communist terrorism" article. What do you think? Biophys 20:35, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
Opinion is sought on the question of a lengthy (and in my opinion, undue weight) Philip Agee quote as well as the question of Latin American dictatorships in relation to policy. 129.71.73.248 23:18, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
I've recently been trying to work to remove POV material from the Instant Runoff Voting article, and BenB4 had been very active there making sure that any information possibly damaging to the campaigns for Instant Runoff Voting was kept of the site, while at the same time protecting unsourced and POV claims in favor of IRV. My opinion, of course, but it was pretty blatant. Anyway, someone came in and started using reverts (a dozen in a day) to remove a whole series of edits of mine, including ones where I didn't think they would be controversial; this user had no login, and no legitimate claim made for a reason for the edit, and there was no discussion as far as I could see. BenB4 defended the anonymous editor (we know who he is in the real world from other evidence, including he left his IP out in the open by posting anonymously, and his style of writing and detailed knowledge is a dead giveaway); I made a 3RR complaint, which was apparently not understood and was ignored. I was not complaining about an edit war, but about the use of reverts abusively. I'm not here to bring you into that, but if it interests you ....
I'm here to note that a new user appeared two days before BenB4 said "au revoir." And suddenly dives in where BenB4 was before, including acting and arguing in the same way for the Instant Runoff Voting article, but also can be seen to have other interests as well that match, too many to be a coincidence. Clumsy. You'd think he'd at least wait a few days!
Special:Contributions/Acct4 'Nuff said. Except I have a question. Acct4 is shown in his log as having created another user account, andy R2. What is that? Is that identified from IP?
I'd make a request for check formally, but ... I'm overwhelmed. But if you think I should take this on, I'd try. I'd have a lot to learn.
I am so glad to know that there are people working on keeping Wikipedia fair, open, and neutral. It's crucial. Thanks.
And now, looking at the rest of this page, I realize that BenB4, shortly before all those reverts, was very interested in 3RR. I had thought that, no, BenB4 was not the anonymous reverter, but ... what if BenB4 is the person we know to be the anonymous reverting editor? Abd 23:47, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
I have submitted an arbitration request about csloat where you might be a party. Biophys 02:31, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
I noticed that someone removed your edit on Dalton Trumbo re Johnny Got His Gun. I don't have any references for all of this, or I'd put it back. I'll eventually dig something up somewhere. The film is being remade, and will be out in 2008, so the more we have on this the better.
BTW: If, by chance, you have anything on a May 1941 petition by members of the
League of American Writers, I'd like to get that full list.
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Randy2063 15:27, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
I did a little digging for names on the A Statement by American Progressives on the Moscow Trials. I couldn't find anything that I didn't think you already knew but, as I see there isn't much on this in WP, I now regret not taking any notes. I've still got one link open on Langston Hughes. I'll add one reference to that article shortly.
The list seems to be in a box somewhere at Duke U. I do have hopes that more of these old documents will find their way into PDF (or whatever format) as the technology keeps developing. It's only a matter of time before computers become powerful enough to do text searches on what might be barely legible today. So, I'll be looking again every once in a while.
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Randy2063 16:17, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
I've just listed this at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:TDC/Prize. Thanks. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 12:20, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
hey TDC, i'm working on that article too. The OR content you pruned belongs to a user named rewinn who's being somewhat obstinate about mucking the article up with POV.
i had an elegant solution of scrapping the ambiguously-themed "controversy" section altogether and replacing it with a "support for" section including only documented direct quotations of people who have expressed support for reinstating FD.
i was going to restore that version shortly and wanted to let you know where your edit went. but if you'd like to weigh in on the rest of the edt dsputes there, i'd welcome that greatly. 38.98.181.23 18:31, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
The reverting on this page is becoming excessive. I know you are not responsible for all of them but I would still ask for restraint. Also please note that you have three reverts in the past few hours on the end sentence of the first paragraph:
This comes up to the 'electric fence' of the three revert rule. Sam Blacketer 09:26, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
You refer to an ArbCom hearing. Who was Xeno in an earlier form?-- JobsElihu 23:39, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
TDC-you are accusing User:Starkrm of being a reincarnation of a banned user, User:Nrcprm2026/James Salsman. This is evidenced by the history on Depleted Uranium. If you believe this to be true, you need to provide evidence, not accusations. I closed the WP:SSP case on Nrcprm2026 and as part of that was that I do not think Starkrm is a sock of Nrcprm2026. This content dispute needs to cease, on both your parts, work it out on the talk page. If you two can't do that, I will protect the page to admins only. If you, TDC, continue to accuse Starkrm of being Nrcprm2026/James Salsman without evidence, you will get blocked as this is uncivil and harrassment. You will also get blocked for continuing to revert edits without a valid reason. — Rlevse • Talk • 17:54, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
as per WP:3RR report Ronnotel 01:52, 8 November 2007 (UTC) {{unblock|I have no Idea how the firs edit can be considered a revert. I only had a handfull of edits in three weeks prior to editing the past couple of days, and none of them were on the article that I had allegedly broken the 3RR on today. The explanation of this first edit was “Deleted sourced content w/o explanation; Wiki-link to Winterfilm Collective; inserted the word "allegations"; etc”, is a content edit, not a revert.}}
This is to inform you that I've started a discussion concerning your and TDC's actions here. Since you're currently blocked, if you wish to contribute to the discussion, you can post whatever you want posted there here on your talk, and I'll transfer it there. Heimstern Läufer (talk) 07:48, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
I have opened a request for arbitration that lists you as a party. You may make a statement there. Heimstern Läufer (talk) 04:25, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
An Arbitration case involving you has been opened, and is located here. Please add any evidence you may wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Winter Soldier 2/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Winter Soldier 2/Workshop.
On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Anthøny 17:52, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
I received your email, I have already presented my evidence on the relevant page at Arbcom and made some proposals in regards to the matter. If you are unhappy with what I present you can make comments as you have already done.
What I will not tolerate is the email I received today telling me to "put a lid on it" any further such emails will be considered a public document and be forwarded to the ARBCOM itself. Gnan garra 07:19, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
TDC, if you really have evidence that can't be posted on-wiki that the ArbCom should consider, I suggest you just email it to them now. The address is viewable at WP:AC. Your continued references to the fact that you have this evidence are doing nothing to help this case: either submit it to them or don't. Otherwise it looks like you're just making unsubstantiated allegations (not an accusation, just saying how it comes off). Heimstern Läufer (talk) 22:56, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
I have tried to talk to you about DU and arsenic, the statement that they are similar, on the Depleted Uranium discussion page. I am sure you have not read what I said.
Please read the work you are citing: http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/toxprofiles/tp150.html
Use the search function to look for "arsenic" and you will find a handful of matches. Please note that each and every one of them says that uranium is DIFFERENT in its toxicological properties than arsenic. Please let me know if you have any trouble seeing this.
And this evening you say that Al Marshall's study at Sandia from 2005 is more recent than the US Army REVIEW (which includes Dr. Marshall's study) which was published this year. Can you not take the time to even look at the year in the reference I included?
See for yourself: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/07/050724094117.htm 2005 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=17508699 2007
I see that you are very interested in this subject. I am editing this because a student sent me a paper on DU which included many falsehoods from Wikipedia. I am not saying that you are responsible for them, but I ask that you at least read to see whether what you say is correct before inserting it.
CKCortez ( talk) 03:12, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Please comment on merging Mike Huckabee controversies into Mike Huckabee here [ [12]] Jmegill ( talk) 09:40, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
The above Request for Arbitration has now closed and the final decision is available at the above link. Both you and User:Xenophrenic are prohibited from editing pages related to the Winter Soldier Investigation. Should you violate this restriction, you may be blocked for the duration specified here.
For the Arbitration Committee,
Anthøny 20:07, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Please be careful when performing mass reverts, as you removed all my manual of style edits when you performed the revert. In this case, the work was minimal, but please be more careful in the future to preserve the beneficial changes. Cheers, CP 05:24, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Arbitration_enforcement#TDC — Viriditas | Talk 00:38, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
You have violated your arbcom restriction and have been blocked 48 hours. You edited Talk:Phoenix Program, [13], which is a violation of the restriction as this is a related topic, as per Winter_Soldier_Investigation#Background. See arb enforcement page for more information. — Rlevse • Talk • 01:51, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
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Request reason:
This block is unwarranted because there was no arbcom violation. Editing restrictions on articles or topics does not carry over to the talk pages of those articles, and there is no precedent to make this block based on that justification. User:Nrcprm2026, for example, was blocked from editing any article related to depleted uranium but it this did not include talk pages which he edited frequently. Secondly, the article in question, Phoenix Program, is NOT related to the specifics of the Arbcom case. Just because it happens to be mentioned on the WSI article does not mean the two are related, if that were the case, and article or talk page linked to WSI would also be covered in the ban, like Pacifica Radio, United States Army, Detroit etcetera, and that would be ridiculous. This interpretation was far too broad and the block is unjustified.
Decline reason:
The wording of the ArbCom ruling is that you are "prohibited from editing any page related in any way to the Winter Soldier Investigation, broadly interpreted." It says nothing about excluding talk pages from that restriction. Wait the 48 hours out, and then return. — Pastordavid ( talk) 17:33, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
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Talk pages are included in arbcom restrictions unless they are specifically exempted. As to whether the Phoenix Program is included in this restriction, the restriction says TDC is "subject to an editing restriction for one year. He is prohibited from editing any page related in any way to the Winter Soldier Investigation, broadly interpreted." and Phoenix was involved. As for the case of Nrcprm2026, I am not familiar with those specifics (did anyone report it?), also since he's indef blocked, it'd probably have been one of his socks. — Rlevse • Talk • 17:25, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
You had recently scrubbed the John Gibson (Fox News Channel and radio show host) page of "criticism" because it violated the non-POV / BLP rules for Wikipedia.
The criticisms have been added back in. Furthermore, it's also filled with several opinions of blatantly liberal personalities and organizations (Olbermann, Media Matters, F.A.I.R.). There are multiple charges of racism agains Gibson.
I've tried to edit the page, even leaving in the hard facts of what Gibson said but removing the opinions and self-serving interpretations from illegitimate sources. The page keeps reverting back and I receive warnings that I could be banned for vandalism.
I'm not trying to make Gibson's page a glowing praise-fest or anything. I'm simply trying to maintain its neutrality and removing opinions. Please take another look at Gibson's page and see if you think I'm right. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.209.240.6 ( talk) 02:28, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Feel free to post an unblock template if you feel the block is unjustified. I will not reduce the block duration. (The block notice may be found at: User talk:Hempbilly#Indefinitely blocked.) Vassyana ( talk) 04:38, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
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Request reason:
An indefinite block for using sockpuppets and not violating any rules on the use of sockpuppets is unreasonable. The dispute with Wikidemo on the Bernie Ward article in which he accuse me making BLP violations was based on his allegation alone, and there was never any second opinion on whether what I was doing was a BLP violation. All the material was sourced to a reliable and notable source. I have been blocked for 2 months now, and I whatever point that was being made, I get. I cannot think of any other instance where a user was indefinitely blocked for a single instance of sockpuupetry (which is not in itself against the rules), and considering that I was not prohibited from using them and my sockpuppet (arguably) was not violation any rules, an indefinite ban appears to be grossly excessive. Torturous Devastating Cudgel ( talk) 17:17, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
Decline reason:
Using sockpuppets to continue abusive editing is very strictly against the policy. I would suggest reading through WP:SOCK, as you don't seem to be getting what it's about. Also considering your massive block log for similar offenses (edit warring, BLP concerns, etc.), I am far from willing to unblock you, especially since your unblock message only professes an intent to continue the disruption you were blocked for. (Admins, for reference, relevant checkuser is at this old revision. — Hersfold ( t/ a/ c) 20:06, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
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Your email request to have your block lifted or shortened is denied. I don't know why you think indefinite sockpuppetry blocks are unprecedented; on the contrary, they happen quite often in cases of clearly abusive sockpuppetry. Even though your case may not have ranked above the most abusive, your extensive block log, which contains over 25 separate blocks over a three-year period clearly demonstrates you have most certainly not learned your lesson, which was the other point you made. You've violated 3RR countless times, disrupted Wikipedia to make a point, violated restrictions placed by the Arbitration Committee, and now you've gone and broken the socking policy for the expressly stated purpose of circumventing blocks and continuing the same violations you'd been blocked for countless times before. So no. There is extensive precedent for indefinite blocks of users who deliberately use multiple accounts to continue their disruption. You have most certainly not learned your lesson, despite one of the largest block logs I've ever seen. You are welcome to continue to contest the block by using the {{ unblock}} template or by emailing the Arbitration Committee at arbcom-l AT lists DOT wikimedia DOT org , however be aware they have access to the same evidence I do, and repeated requests that do not introduce any new reasons to unblock you may lead to your page being protected and email disabled. Administrators reviewing any future unblock requests may email me for a copy of the email I received from this user. Hersfold ( t/ a/ c) 01:09, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
I have been following the recent applications of policy against User:TDC and have noticed that policy has been interpreted and applied arbitrarily, sometimes to a degree appearing to approach the egregious, against him regarding his supposed "sockpuppeting" violation.
In the past few years I have been contributed to Wikipedia, I have observed TDC to be a voluminous contributor of valuable and substantiated information and corrections to hundreds, if not thousands, of Wikipedia articles.
In fact, it seems necessary to me by this point to investigate whether a vendetta is being pursued against him with the aim of suppressing the information TDC presents to articles that he presumably obtains simply through his patronization of non-liberal news sources.
I intend to use this area to take notes concerning irregularities in interpreting and applying policy I have observed regarding TDC's current confinement, a sentence which appears on simple inspection to be far excessive beyond any corresponding evidence of misconduct.
I would also like to openly invite that the supposed evidence that TDC's conduct calls for a punitive response be presented. 99.165.237.233 ( talk) 03:02, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
The term "sockpuppet" and its derivatives is used, careless of meaning, against TDC. Strictly speaking, a sockpuppeteer uses a second or multiple accounts to fraudulently portray the presence of another user who agrees with the sockpuppeteer in some desired way. Without the existence of this false collaboration, no sockpuppeting can have occured. This meaning of the term "sockpuppet" predates the existence of Wikipedia and can be verified by an examination of its use as found in the archives of Usenet.
Despite the fact that no such evidence of false collaboration has ever been offered against TDC in his use of his other (less than or equal to three) user accounts, he has been repeatedly accused of sockpuppeting, and even the word "sockpuppeting" used in its most improper sense of merely possessing other accounts has been punitively misapplied in one outstandingly careless case, which I will deal with first, briefly.
So apparently eager was the admin User:Vassyana to act on User:Wikidemo's say-so claiming disruption by TDC on the Request for Checkuser page [14], that she misapplied the term "sockpuppet" and its derivatives (even when taking the term in the broadest possible sense) to TDC and his alternate account User:Hempbilly, and later replacing entire user pages of his accounts, in the course of the same punitive action, with the misapplication [see the user pages at the proceeding four links]. Namely, as shown through her choice of block notice, she called the 71-edit User:Hempbilly account the "sockmaster" account and the 8556-edit User:TDC account a "sock puppet" (the User:DJ Creamity account had 294 edits and the User:Happy Sapper account had 19 edits)).
This act contradicted expressed policy on the Sock Puppetry page: "An alternative account is an additional username used by a Wikipedian who already has an account. In such cases the main account is normally assumed to be the one with the longest history and most edits" A member of the Wikipedia community in good standing for years, TDC's account was thus portrayed as a mere sub-account of an user given an indefinite block on the basis of 71 edits, alienating his identity, damaging his reputation by misconveying whether the block was for alleged cumulative misconduct or some alleged egregious misdeed and subtly reinforcing the false impression that it was for an egregious act of sockpuppeting (taken in its narrow sense), and preventing those who might want to assist a long-standing user rehabilitate his status from knowing that he was a long-standing user. 99.165.237.233 ( talk) 19:30, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Strictly speaking, a sockpuppeteer uses a second or multiple accounts to fraudulently portray the presence of another user who agrees with the sockpuppeteer in some desired way.
I tend to agree, but I wouldn't yet say this is a conscious effort.
Non-liberal news sources do have a harder time here, and I think it's partly our fault. Liberals are more likely to reject conservative sources, while conservatives are more likely to let liberal sources remain. I don't know what to do about it, as I prefer we keep left-wing sources in the mix.
-- Randy2063 ( talk) 16:11, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Dear TDC, endulge my abrupt request. I am a student currently working on a research project regarding Wikipedia; specifically, how arguments about controversial issues are settled. I have seen several of your contributions, and I thought they were highly interesting. I believe your experience and opinions would add a lot to the project and they would give it life. It is absolutely important for the research to collect some data from live sources, to find something concrete. My work is about 'how' something is done, and superficial observations never suffice. Insight, understanding, genuine experience is needed. Your voice could provide me with those things.
Could you afford an online interview via e-mail or an online messenger? It would be really precious for me. If you are willing to help, it would be good if you could contact me via User Talk within April. Thanks.
Little Sheepherd ( talk) 16:12, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
I would like to point out an article called Nurse Nayirah that could use your input. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.166.14.146 ( talk) 15:00, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
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