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Authenticity of Ward Lamon, William Crook and Laura Keene’s accounts

I just noticed that the Lincoln death article (great job by the way, it deserves a gold star) mentions the dream Lincoln was said to have had of his own assassination; however, some respected historians have cited internal inconsistencies and external evidence regarding Lamon's account that lead them to question its veracity. Lamon stated that the incident had occurred only a few days prior to the assassination, yet within Lincoln's monologue he related at one point that the dream occurred "the other night" and also "about ten days ago." It’s also been pointed out that although Lincoln stated in the account that on the night of the dream he "had been up waiting for important dispatches from the front," during the period of March 24 to April 9, records show he had in fact had been at the front, rather than in the White House. There is also records and eyewitness evidence saying that Lincoln and Lamon did not see each other in those weeks. In addition, there was no contemporaneous account of the dream following the assassination. No one mentioned it in the voluminous writings of the period, not Mary Lincoln, Lamon, anyone else at the supposed telling of the dream, or anyone to whom those who heard it may have relayed it.

Additionally, the article contradicts itself at one point by saying “Mary Lincoln developed a headache and was inclined to stay home, but Lincoln told her he must attend because newspapers had announced that he would,” but then says “bodyguard, William H. Crook, advised him not to go, but Lincoln said he had promised his wife.” So basically in one version, Lincoln didn't want to go to Ford's Theater that night (April 14th), but Mary Lincoln insisted. In this scenario, Mary becomes the scapegoat for the murder (like she had enough to deal with already!). In another version, Mary didn't really want to go but Lincoln felt that they must go as it had been published in the paper that they would be attending. Lincoln didn't want to let the public down. Thus, in this scenario, Lincoln was killed giving his complete "all" to the public-even though he wanted to stay home that evening. I'm sure there are other variations of what happened.

By all accounts, the Lincoln's seemed to have been in a good mood, so I am a little surprised to hear someone state that the president didn't want to attend the play, although I'm sure being tired is a good enough reason. Why the belief in Abe's hesitancy to attend? The source for this is William H. Crook. Crook wrote that Lincoln said, "It has been advertised that we will be there, and I cannot disappoint the people. Otherwise I would not go. I do not want to go." This is on p. 67 of Crook's book entitled Through Five Administrations.

I must add, however, that several highly respected historians do not regard Crook as a reliable source. Among these folks are Ed Steers and William Hanchett. Crook's reminisces have been studied and are regarded as not trustworthy. For example, Crook says Lincoln was depressed that day and had promised his wife they would go, but this contradicts the other accounts which describe Lincoln being cheerful that day; even the article has deleted included Crook's observation that Lincoln said "goodbye" instead of "goodnight." Did Lincoln really say "goodbye?" if so, can we really attach that much meaning to it?

17 April 1865 New York Herald

The article additionally says that Laura Keene cradled Lincoln's head in her lap in the box. Does anybody know from what eyewitness accounts that comes from? I just want to clarify that I mean from the original witness accounts, not from the numerous books and articles about the assassination, ie who actually said that happened and was it contemporary or written years later? Did Leale mention it in his accounts? I ask because the account Laura Keene gave in an interview to the New York Herald a couple of days later doesn't mention this happening at all. Keene says she brought water to the box and then tried to console Mary Lincoln. As far as I know the Herald interview is the only account given by Keene herself, and being printed a few days later is also contemporary. 80.2.23.127 ( talk) 09:45, 15 November 2021 (UTC) reply

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The Purple Star Hook update
Your hook reached 10,438 views (869.8 per hour), making it one of the most viewed hooks of November 2021—nice work!

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I think the Lincoln assassination article could have the use of the more detailed and scholarly works concerning Booth's death, that I have read, they point to a prolonged and agonizing death that took several hours, using sources from the Boston Corbett article? 62.254.70.42 ( talk) 09:42, 19 November 2021 (UTC) reply

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I have left some copyright and source markings on the image page now. Let me know if these need to be improved. Thanks, S. SebastianJFromTheBurg ( talk) 18:44, 22 August 2023 (UTC) reply
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Where is the "purpose of use" field? I don't see it. SebastianJFromTheBurg ( talk) 18:51, 22 August 2023 (UTC) reply
It's the "purpose" field in the blank form, which is labelled "purpose of use" in the rendered form. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 18:53, 22 August 2023 (UTC) reply
Where you wrote "Identification". — Ирука 13 18:54, 22 August 2023 (UTC) reply
Thank you, I understand now. Let me know if it's better now. Thanks, S. SebastianJFromTheBurg ( talk) 18:56, 22 August 2023 (UTC) reply
Now it's ok. — Ирука 13 19:04, 22 August 2023 (UTC) reply

López de Santa Anna

I have seen you have removed the "López de" mentions within the López de Santa Anna article. This is incorrect as I have pointed out in the most recent edit summary. Although some English sources tend to refer to him as Santa Anna, repeating the error here without contempt is not good. For instance, Spanish customs mean that López was his paternal surname and Santa Anna was his maternal. English-language countries such as the US only use the paternal surname, so had him been a US citizen, he would have been known as Antonio López, instead of Antonio Santa Anna. If you disagree, please take this to the talk page. Either we have to use the composed surname "López de Santa Anna" or "López", but Santa Anna is plain incorrect. Bedivere ( talk) 03:21, 6 October 2023 (UTC) reply

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