Following up on
my final warning for unsourced editing, I see
this edit added content that was not present in the source, nor did you add a source yourself. As such, your account is blocked for 1 week. When you return, I hope you finally start adding sources to the content you add.
Sergecross73msg me 16:24, 8 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Indefinite block
Since you have refused to not only stop your unsourced editing despite multiple warnings/blocks, but even to engage in any sort of discussion, you are blocked indefinitely.
Im open to removing it if you can convince me that you understand the problem and have a plan for avoiding it in the future
WP:PING when you're ready to talk. But right now it's quite clear you're not ready to be editing Wikipedia.
Sergecross73msg me 12:39, 24 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Is there anyway I can avoid this problem in the future? How can I Avoid adding unsourced edits? Will any solution lift my block? — Preceding
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Adding sources is easier said than done. Quite a few times I’ve tried to add sources but there was either an error or they were removed. And on another note, What your definition of being convinced I understand the problem? — Preceding
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I believe this editor is acting in good-faith, but the overall lack of responsiveness to chronic sourcing problems raised for nearly two years (and continued unsourced editing after a temporary block) was fair grounds for an indefinite site block. One possible solution going forward would be to loosen the block and have this editor
partially-blocked only from article-space, and give them a chance to rehabilitate by making edit requests on talk pages using {{
Edit partially-blocked}}. If they can demonstrate a consistent pattern of making productive well-sourced edit requests accepted by the community over a certain period of time, then I could see myself supporting a full lifting of the block since that would show evidence of real behavioral improvement, and that they understand the problem. Rice n Noodles, if the block is lifted or loosened and you continue to run into issues with errors or removals when adding sources, then
WP:Teahouse would be a good place to ask for guidance; the regulars there are very helpful for these sorts of things. Also, please sign your comments. Courtesy ping @
Sergecross73 and
SergeWoodzing: (Non-administrator comment)
Left guide (
talk) 06:23, 25 April 2024 (UTC)reply
I'm sorry but I cannot see any history of willingness to behave acceptably, nor to learn e.g. how to add sources effectively, only the opposite so far. OK, blanking one's talk page is a Wikipedian right, bordering on an inalienable human right, but to me it says a lot about attitude. --
SergeWoodzing (
talk) 06:51, 25 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Will any of this actually help me improve? Also, am I allowed to blank spaces? — Preceding
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Rice n Noodles, please remember to sign your posts on talk pages (like this one) by typing four
tildes (~~~~). Further instructions and explanations are at
WP:Signatures.
Left guide (
talk) 14:52, 25 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Some thoughts on things here:
Yes, you are allowed to blank your own talk page. Anyone is. But you should also be aware of the message you're sending when you do it. For 2 years, editors asked and warned you to stop. And you never responded, you just deleted the message and didn't change. I mean, image this scenario: You walk up to someone at work/school/home, and ask them if they could do something. They stare at you, don't say a word, silently walk away, and never do the thing you asked. How would you feel? Some kind of sadness/disappointment/offense I assume? Well, that's what you've been doing to community members for the last 2 years. Yes, you can blank your page, but that's the sort of vibe you give off when you act like that.
While I am sympathetic to the fact that it takes time to learn how Wikipedia works, adding references should not be that difficult. It certainly shouldn't be something that takes months/years. It's easily outlined at
WP:REFB and countless other places that you were notified of on your talk page.
I'll be honest with you - if adding simple sources for simple statements is that difficult for you, you're probably not ready to be editing Wikipedia at this point. You can technically request an
WP:UNBLOCK at any point, but they way that you've totally ignored the entire community and just kept adding content without sources, is unlikely to be persuasive. I recommend taking some time away, and reading over
WP:STANDARDOFFER.
Sergecross73msg me 16:29, 25 April 2024 (UTC)reply
I never saw it that way. I didn't know it was as bad of an issue as it has proven to be. Your probably right. I should probably take time off from Wikipedia.
Rice n Noodles (
Talk) 25 April 2024 (UTC)