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of Orannis

Hullo, Orannis! I hope you enjoy editing Wikipedia. Here are some links to help you effectively help on Wikipedia:

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Wikipedians have a policy of never biting newbies, so don't feel shy to ask for help. If you need help immediately with anything, you can write {{helpme}} on your userpage or place a comment on my talk page. By the way...cool userpage! Don't forget to be BOLD!!!!-- The i kiro id ( talk/parler/hablar/paroli/说/話) 01:54, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Hello yourself, Mr. Ikiroid! I forgot about that whole "welcome wagon" thing. I know the basics of Wikipedia and can do a good deal to this site of all sites if I ever actually put my mind to it. Well, thank you for a jumpstart in my Wikipedia membership, I could really use it!

And man, do you know a lot of languages! I'm also pursuing fluency in German and Arabic. Thanks again! The Ninth Bright Shiner 01:56, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for the compliment, although my proficiency in many of the languages is still small. At the moment I'm actively learning french and chinese. I do want to learn some arabic, although I'm not quite sure what part of my mouth I use to pronounce 'ayin. You try reading some of the German and Arabic wikipedia articles—it helps immerse yourself in the language. ;)-- The i kiro id ( talk/parler/hablar/paroli/说/話) 02:25, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Hey, I was just wondering what your name means. I mean, I went to the trouble of explaining everything out on my User page, what about you? What is "Ikiroid?"

The coolest guy you know - The Ninth Bright Shiner 19:46, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Well...."iki" is extracted from the japanese "ikiru", to live, and "iki" can also mean "to go". "-oid" is a greek suffix that means "almost" or "not quite", so it sort of means "pseudohuman", "robot", "alternative personality", or "a little less than something, but not nothing". I left its meaning kind of open so you could decide for yourself ;).-- The i kiro id ( talk/parler/hablar/paroli/说/話) 19:49, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

P.S. Now that you mention it, I should probably explain that on my userpage.-- The i kiro id ( talk/parler/hablar/paroli/说/話) 19:51, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

OK. First figure out, using the sandbox, what the code of your signature will be. You'll need to be familiar with the hypertext code used on Wikipedia, so you might need help with that. For example, the code for my signature is quite complicated:

<samp>[[User:Ikiroid/Esperanza|<span style="color: green">'''The'''</span>]]</samp> [[Imaginary unit|<span style="color: black">'''i'''</span>]][[user:ikiroid|<span style="color: blue">'''kiro'''</span>]][[Ego, superego, and id|<span style="color: black">'''id'''</span>]] ([[user talk:ikiroid|<small>talk/parler/hablar/paroli/说/話</small>]])

That's the hard part. If you get that done, paste it as your signature under the nickname box in "my preferences" and click "raw signature". I hope this helps :). If you have any more questions, feel free to contact me, but I'll be on somewhat of a wikibreak in the next few days. However, I'll try to respond if I can.-- The i kiro id ( talk/parler/hablar/paroli/说/話) 17:08, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

You notified me on my talk page about the picture in my sig: While it's considered "frowned upon" by some, it's not by others. Nobody seems to have a problem with it. ⇒ SWATJester ^Ready Aim _Fire! 05:37, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm using this code --> Phroziac ♥♥♥♥ <-- and you have to check the raw signature box for it to work. :) -- Phroziac ♥♥♥♥ 12:09, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Haha, thanks for the message—I do hafta improve the Feng Shui of my page.-- The i kiro id ( talk parler hablar paroli 说 話し parlar) 01:34, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi, what do you need help with? You can ask you question here and place the {{ helpme}} template at the end so we know to check back.-- Commander Keane 22:57, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

I've been trying to get a suitable signature for quite a while, and my latest stab at it hasn't work. Yes, I've put this question on the newcomer's help page, and it receivied an answer, although one that didn't quite help, and seems to have been generally ignored since. It's just, when I type ~~~, I get this:

<b><i><font style="background:black" color: silver> The Ninth Bright Shine</font><font style="background:black" color: silver> r</font></i></b> ^talk

Which is the basic code to make what I wanted:

The Ninth Bright Shine r ^talk

Plus, how would different fonts be put in? And also about signatures, I've read that you should avoid including pictures in your signature. However, I've seen several people with pictures in their singatures, and I even tried to innocently point out to one that they shouldn't, and I got some snappy reply. Is it really that harmful or not? After all this trouble, I might just forget the whole thing. Thanks for the help.

{{ helpme}} is really only for matters concerning the building of the encyclopedia.-- Commander Keane 23:41, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps if you're still having problems, you should post your issue at Wikipedia:Village pump. However, I would not perseverate on it too long, most wikipedians will judge users by their contributions, not their signature or userpage (despite how cool they can get;D). P.S. did you know Keanu Reeves is from Lebanon?-- The i kiro id ( talk parler hablar paroli 说 話し parlar) 00:50, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Sorry you're upset. I'd suggest going back to the last signature that worked in your browser and use that.-- The i kiro id ( talk parler hablar paroli 说 話し parlar) 02:00, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

What you are using should work. Have you tried selecting the 'raw signature box in "my preferences" to see what effect that has? Open up a second window and use the show preview button to sign your talk page until you get the right result. Andrewjur e n(talk) 22:25, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Enter the following into your nickname:

[[User:Orannis|<b><i><span style="background: black; color: silver">The Ninth Bright Shiner</span></i></b>]][[User talk:Orannis|<sup>talk</sup>]] 

It should look like this: The Ninth Bright Shiner ^talk

Andrewjur e n(talk) 23:26, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi, anything I can help with?

Yes. You see, there are two images in Wikipedia that are of the flag of Lebanon, this one and that one. The latter uses a darker shade of red, whereas the former uses a lighter shade of red. According to my experience with the Lebanese flag, the first one should be correct, as that is how I have always seen it. I tried verifying this information on the Internet, but I came up with wildly differing shades and cedar tree shapes. What exactly might be the correct flag?

And also, the Lebanese coat of arms has a cedar tree on it, but the trunk is colored brown. According to the article for the flag, "It is a common mistake to draw the branches of the cedar in brown or black. Nevertheless the mistake is unconstitutional. The cedar must be full green." Wouldn't this apply to the Coat of Arms as well? A search engine results in most, if not all coats of arms having full green cedars.-- The Ninth Bright Shine r 22:39, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Anything I can help with? Bjelleklang - talk 22:45, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Um, yes, the question I just asked?-- The Ninth Bright Shine r 22:48, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Ah, actually I'm not sure. The colors of certain flags have a tendency to vary very often, for example as with the Norwegian flag, where the darker blue is often light blue or black (similar to the lebanese flag.) The best would probably be if you could find some sort of official goverment site, and use the shade of red you can find there. Bjelleklang - talk 23:02, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

This is something that should be discussed on the article's talk page. Andrewjur e n(talk) 23:10, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Post the bad version on Wikipedia:Images for deletion. For more information on how to delete an image, read the first paragraph of the page.-- The i kiro id ( talk )^{( Help Me Improve)} 02:42, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for commenting at my improvement page. It's always great to hear "Keep up the good work!" every once and a while.-- The i kiro id ( talk)^{( Help Me Improve)} 23:32, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Please do not post Fair Use images on user page, this is a breach of copyright. Fair Use images specifically say that they are to be only used in a relavent context, and a rationale for why must accompany this. I have removed the Wii images from your gallery, please remove all others (the Mario in your userboxes is an example) from your userpage. H ig hway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 22:50, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Fair use for more information.-- The i kiro id ( talk)^{( Help Me Improve)} 01:17, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Sorry about that. I forgot about the whole fair use thing. Actually, I didn't know what fair use was. The images have been removed. Thanks for the link, Ikiroid.-- The Ninth Bright Shine r ^talk 20:41, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Oh hey, sorry but I just noticed a lingering Mario image, so I replaced with "Image:smile.png". Happy editting, H ig hway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 22:50, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Hm? I could've sworn that I took that image out and replaced it with "Sony." Ah well. Thanks!-- The Ninth Bright Shiner ^talk 20:13, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Heh, I have a pair of them, and my userpage was modelled on them (by Sango123). If you think about it, the link to my userpage should be "Rainbow Sneakers", but then no one would no my name, so my funky shoes link to my talk page. (I have Batman chucks too XD) H ig hway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 23:23, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Congrats on your first barnstar. Looks like you've been working hard, good job!--  The ikiroid  21:10, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

You're giving immediate advice, and working with new information and whether to judge if it's true. H ig hway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 07:07, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Say, what did I do that made me special anything to feature on your neat lil' list? :) — Nightst a llion (?) 20:15, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Ah, well, since you popped up when I was dealing with big (at least for me) issues, like the Flag of Lebanon and the Abhorsen page move, I thought that you deserved to be there. Plus, you seemed like quite the able-minded editor, what with having such proficiency in languages. But should you question awards, or just accept them? ;)-- The Ninth Bright Shiner ^talk 20:42, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

I certainly didn't mean to question them, I was just curious, since your name somehow seemed familiar, but I couldn't remember how I interacted with you. :) — Nightst a llion (?) 12:33, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

I'd be happy to help on getting an article about Nix's Realm of Death, I'll probably start by adding descriptions of some more precincts. Emmett5 01:50, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

I didn't want to get sued. :-) Gang sta E B EA (comments welcome!) 01:28, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

I used this account for my custom VandalProof buttons. Anonymous_ _Anonymous 10:47, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

When editing, why do section headers start with two equal marks, when there's a header that has one? For example:

 ==Section 1: Lorem Ipsum==
 
 Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet...
 
 ===Section 1.1: Lipsum===
 
 Blah blah blah...

Why are most pages formatted like the above? Why not be formatted like below?

 =Section 1: Lorem Ipsum=
 
 Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet...
 
 ==Section 1.1: Lipsum==
 
 Blah blah blah...

The Ninth Bright Shiner ^talk 05:15, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Responding

Give me 2 mimutes please. Eagle talk 05:18, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

When editing, why do section headers start with two equal marks, when there's a header that has one? For example:

 ==Section 1: Lorem Ipsum==
 
 Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet...
 
 ===Section 1.1: Lipsum===
 
 Blah blah blah...

Why are most pages formatted like the above? Why not be formatted like below?

=Section 1: Lorem Ipsum=

• This is used for the Articles title. hence if this were used for the sections the letter size of the title and the sections would be the same. (notice the title of the page is larger).

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet...

==Section 1.1: Lipsum==

Blah blah blah...

Does that help? If it does not feel free to post the {{ helpme}} agian :) Eagle talk 05:21, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Uh, thanks. But why does it even exist, then?-- The Ninth Bright Shiner ^talk 05:25, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:How_to_edit_a_page a link to help you... more in a moment Eagle talk 05:28, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

IRC

Please click this link to let us help you further :) : online based IRC client

Thanks :) Eagle talk 05:33, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

HELP

^{24 June 2006 06:39} Ste4k wrote: Do you need help Orannis?

^{24 June 2006 03:05} Orannis wrote: No, this was more of a test concerning the helpmebot at IRC bootcamp...thing. So no, I don't need help, thank you.

^{24 June 2006 13:04} Ste4k wrote: I don't think your signature is working, correctly. Before you make any more edits, please come and see me on IRC and I will give it to you in your window to copy and paste, okay? I may have to change that page. I look into that later. If you look at the code here you will see above that your signature is putting in VARIABLES instead of the actual numbers. See you when you get some time. If you want to attract my attention, put something on my talk page. Thanks! :)

^{24 June 2006 15:59} Orannis wrote: Actually, I just made that signature up on the spot, to echo yours, so the conversation wouldn't be unreadable. My real signature is below:

The Ninth Bright Shiner ^talk 15:59, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

So don't worry about it. But thanks!

^{24 June 2006 16:17} Ste4k wrote: OK! :) you had me worried, yes. If you go to my user page, somewhere on the bottom there is a userbox with an url in it for LHS which has the code on it. The reason I like it that way is because it's more like irc. It will always line up, signing on the right could end up anywhere. :) Thanks!

I've replied at User talk:Jimbo Wales/In many languages.... Thanks. smurrayinch ester^{( User), ( Talk)} 15:02, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Please do not remove information without discussing it on the talk page first. That particular section has been debated over, and kept for a reason. RyanG e rbil10 (Drop on in!) 23:38, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Sorry for taking a while to get back to you, if you believe that the forummish information is damaging the potential of the article, be bold and do so. I'd probably leave the Brawl notice at the top of the page too, give the editors a fair warning. Harmonious editting, H ig hway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 14:04, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

If you think they are frequent, and hindering the growth of discussion, be bold. That's all you're doing. H ig hway ^Batman! 21:03, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes. I also bought furry turn up ones, but that's a little long. ; D H ig hway ^Batman! 10:39, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Hey Orannis, I noticed you removed your Islam userbox from your userpage a while ago (I assume because it was changed and reworded). Well, now a lot of religious userboxes have been created in the userspace, and you can pick from a variety of them. This page seems to give you the biggest variety of choices. Anyway, cheers! The ikiroid ( talk· desk· Advise me) 01:46, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

I've heard about the German userbox solution, I just forgot about it. But thanks for reminding me! I'll get around to it.

And by the way, concerning The Gallery, what would you think of as a good image to identify myself with? I'm named after a fictional character who was bound in a silver sphere that was split in half, so I was sort of thinking around those lines. And I've no idea of how to make it myself.-- The Ninth Bright Shiner ^talk 03:28, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

You don't necessarily need an avatar, per se, a banner of your name, or a cool, weird pic you like on your page would do. If you do want to go with an image, I'd suggest something that fits your personality, interests, and fascinations all in one picture. My pic was drawn with a sharpie, scanned onto my computer, edited down a bit, than uploaded.

Since I try to reveal little about my sex, generation, and ethinicity, I picked an abiguous, quasihuman face. The outfit is loosely based on what men wore in the United States to work in the 1930's, 40's, and 50's. The era was regarded as clean, happy and efficient on the outside, but struggling with a changing world on the inside, as I do. The appearance is also an attempted hybrid at several psychological Jungian archetypes, namely, the Animus (the figure's face), the Child (the figure's height and physical disposition), and the Wise Old Man (its stare and reserved manner). They represent the way I approach judging things in the world, I use each perspective as an argument against the other while developing an opinion. Of course, you needn't make your picture have such a deep meaning, but it's a few things to keep in mind when you create your own.-- The ikiroid ( talk· desk· Advise me) 19:23, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Wow. I had no idea of the depth a mere picture could hold. Well, if the process is that simple, I'll think something up. Thanks!-- The Ninth Bright Shiner ^talk 02:19, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for telling me not to do what I did. I kinda knew it was wrong but I dont want to go through changing the name, btw do you think my account will go away after not being used or should I ask an admin? DooD 03:56, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

You're very welcome. Myself, I really don't know the best action to take. Like I said, you could ask about what to do at Wikipedia:New contributors' help page. An administrator might be able to help, but might not. As I can't imagine any sort of solution, asking at the New contributors' help page would probably be the best thing to do for now.-- the ninth bright shiner ^talk 04:42, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi Orranis. I mean, yeah, you may well be right. But, I figure that over the next couple of years people might attain some of the higher levels. Yeah Complete and Perfect Tutnum is almost unattainable, but then, it gives even people of the higher service levels. I dunno though. Herostratus 00:23, 1 August 2006 (UTC)