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I believe you are misunderstanding
WP:MOSTITLE and it is perfectly correct to use a capital when referring to, e.g., "10th Taoiseach of Ireland", as it is referring to a specific position. This would be in common with what's done with English prime ministers' short descriptions.
BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 11:32, 31 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Hi
Bastun, regarding British prime ministers' short descriptions, the difference is that they're not numbered, and the standard appears to be to use lowercase when the title is numbered; see
Donald Trump's lead for example, 45th
president of the United States from 2017 to 2021. I'm not entirely clear whether this should apply to taoiseach, as it's a term borrowed from another language. Ordinarily, we would italicise it if in lower case, or use {{
lang}}, though I don't know if such markup would be advisable here. I suppose we can leave it capitalised, though I'm not entirely convinced this is consistent with
MOS:JOBTITLES. ‑‑
Neveselbert (
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No, we wouldn't italicise it, as while, yes, it comes from the Irish language, taoiseach is also the English-language word for the leader of the Irish government. See
Taoiseach, specifically the lead paragraph. Regarding MOS:JOBTITLES, it's not at all clear that an unnumbered office should be Prime Minister while a numbered one should be taoiseach or president. I would suggest the opposite seems more likely as the numbered ones point to specific posts. Or maybe we should just leave well enough alone?
BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 18:03, 31 March 2024 (UTC)reply
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I greatly appreciate your improvements to my reference to the audio of the Queen's recollections of VE Day 1945. I added a further reference to programme name "The Way We Were" because the original programme name is not mentioned in the other sources. I struggled with what the title= should be, as the programme listing does not have an official title.
I have some qualms about the programme being described as an "interview", which is a question and answer format. I recall Alastair Bruce in I think it was The Coronation TV programme saying something along the lines of "the Queen is never interviewed", the protocol being that she was never asked direct questions by the media. Unfortunately I have been unable to find the whole programme so I am unable to find the context to determine if Godfrey Talbot had asked a question which would support the description of "interview".
Hi
Corsac Fox Kazakhstan, I'm glad to be of help. I was able to find the interaction described as such
on Google. Thanks for adding a further reference, which I'll have a look at. As for the title, I struggled with that as well while reformatting the citation, which made me reluctant to use {{
cite episode}} instead. I would take Bruce's remarks as a general rule of thumb, rather than an absolute rule, as the Queen had been interviewed on specific topics of her interest where the questions were known to her in advance. ‑‑
Neveselbert (
talk·contribs·email) 20:14, 6 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Perhaps the trouble is that the Way We Were programme does nor quite fit any of the available citation categories, characteristic trammels of the products of modern American TV, that have no imaginative space for the more rambling nature of reminiscence. So interview is probably the best that we can do with what we have. I don't have time to get into investigating how new citation categories might be formed.
In The Coronation TV programme I was amused watching Alastair Bruce asking about how long the Queen spent in the coach, and she pointedly ignored him and carried on saying what she wanted to say. But then ignoring the question happens frequently in interviews. Do you have an example of where Queen Elizabeth is interviewed with prepared questions? I'd like to see how it was done.
Corsac Fox Kazakhstan (
talk) 07:44, 9 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Oooh I like what you did with the combined reference. Should it link to 8th May 1985 listing on the BBC website, rather than the 24th December 1985 listing?
Corsac Fox Kazakhstan (
talk) 07:51, 9 April 2024 (UTC)reply
I have added the following link to the discussion as to whether we should rewrite the article to reflect how later accounts described the David Amess attack. This will be the last I will do the Amess articles, as it is too painful for me personally.
92.17.198.220 (
talk) 16:39, 8 April 2024 (UTC)reply