Archive 3 Information

Thanks for your prompt response to my block request.- Reid A. 10:12, 12 December 2005 (UTC) reply

I really want to, as ive been killing vandalism for almost 12 hours straight now. But i cant figure out how to on my mac = Reid A. 10:22, 12 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Hey NSLE/Archive 3! Thanks for your support on my RfA. The final outcome was (57/4/3), so I am now an administrator. If you need help, have a question, or just want to chat (or if I get out of line!), please don't hesitate to let me know! Again, thanks! :D

Tom e r ^talk

Hi NSLE, please see my response at Talk:Stanley Williams#Unprotection_request. It would be great to be able to cooperatively contribute new information to this Wikipedia article. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 08:41, 13 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Hi NSLE , thank you for voting in support of my RFA; the result was (28-0-0 ). I hope that I am able to fulfil the expectations of an admin. If you see me mess up anywhere, have any concerns (be it for my musical taste or edits), please don't hesitate to tell me! Take care. SoLando ( Talk) 10:22, 14 December 2005 (UTC) reply

PS: You support Liverpool!!!!!! I'm just going to smile even more now :-)

Hi! Thanks for restoring my talk page. I wonder why the anon vandalized the talk page instead of the user page... Paolo Liberatore ( Talk) 10:34, 14 December 2005 (UTC) reply

And thanks for fixing Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/EdwinHJ (3rd try) for me. Much obliged. – Quadell ^{( talk) ( bounties)} 01:32, 15 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Sorry about the AIV post--I didn't realize you'd already blocked him. Thanks for taking care of it. Chick Bowen 05:15, 15 December 2005 (UTC) reply

This issue is not resolved , and 2 or 3 editors do not make consensus to move a page.-- Vertaloni 05:30, 15 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Hi NSLE! The article Arabic Numerals is a POV-fork article, forked from Arabic numerals. We had a long and involved discussion on that article, ending in a consensus that following wikipedia norms, it should be renamed Hindu-Arabic numerals. A brief summary of the reasons were:

• All other encyclopedias like Britannica [1], refer to the symbols exclusively as "Hindu-Arabic" everywhere they are mentioned. Articles in research papers and other encyclopedias (that are written by professional people who are rigorous scholars, who are paid a lot of money for their work, and who are held accountable for what they write, and are peer-reviewed at many levels) exclusively use the term "Hindu-Arabic numerals".

• According to another article on Britannica, titled "The Hindu-Arabic system" [2], the numerals are "commonly spoken of as Arabic but preferably as Hindu-Arabic."

• Definitely preferred by scholars, e.g., as per Peter Wardley [3]

"`Hindu-arabic' is preferred over `arabic' as a more accurate and useful description for two reasons: first, it places primacy on the region where this system of numerical representation had its origins, the Indian sub-continent; and, second, it draws attention to the difference between the numerals currently used in Arabic countries and those adopted by Europeans after the introduction of various adaptations. The latter, of course, has become the internationally accepted system of numerical representation."

All users except one supported the change. The user who objected did not cite any reason for his objection. This user is also suspected to have sockpuppets, and was also blocked earlier a couple of days back for keeping on reverting the article to his own version. Now an anonymous IP address keep redirecting all links to this particular article.

Arabic Numerals should simply be redirected to Hindu-Arabic numerals. Thanks a lot for your involvement! deeptrivia ( talk) 05:30, 15 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Thanks NSLE! deeptrivia ( talk) 05:34, 15 December 2005 (UTC) reply

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Why are you preventing the article for deletion process from running through? It seems only fair to put this issue up for broader consideration than 3 editors-- Vertaloni 06:02, 15 December 2005 (UTC) reply

NO it was an article , has been for years ,YEARS and I put it up for deletion. Respect the rules and give the deletion process a fair run . Why would you object to that?? I am simply resorting to a legitimate Wikipedia policy and I believe I can do that -- Vertaloni 06:05, 15 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Why would you object to an article for deletion? I am requesting that you do not block this.-- Vertaloni 06:10, 15 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Why would your redirect overide prior version of an article. There is no validity to this. What are you fighting this for?-- Vertaloni 06:13, 15 December 2005 (UTC) reply

The editors who supported: User:kwamikagami, User:DaGizza, User:Frogular (changed later to weak support), User:Subramanian, User:Raj2004, User:Peyna, and User:deeptrivia (myself). User:csssclll, and User:Sam Spade were neutral. Only one editor was against, for uncited reasons. deeptrivia ( talk) 06:15, 15 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Vertaloni, your version is not discarded. It can be used at Hindu-Arabic numerals if it is agreed upon by consensus. Please discuss this at Talk:Hindu-Arabic numerals. deeptrivia ( talk) 06:15, 15 December 2005 (UTC) reply

I request that you put the page back to what was there before your redirect , so that I can go through with the VFD . Seems like a legitamate request unless you want to play the bureaucracy card and keep paroting that its a redirect.-- Vertaloni 06:18, 15 December 2005 (UTC) reply

I ask to have the deletion process go through regardless of what you say about the consensus which I do not believe is correct.-- Vertaloni 06:20, 15 December 2005 (UTC) reply

If you are going to be unwilling to allow that to happen then let me know since we are going around in circles.-- Vertaloni 06:23, 15 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Hi NSLE, Thank you for your support on my RFB. I withdrew it with a final vote of 14/5/2 and am planning on wait awhile before possibly re-applying. Thanks again for your vote. Jtkiefer ^{T | C | @} ---- 21:02, 15 December 2005 (UTC) reply

I was misinformed and now i know i was lied to. I am 100 percent certain i was lied to, and the album will not be entitled Once Moore.

Parys 00:15, 16 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Alright my apologies. Parys 00:18, 16 December 2005 (UTC) reply

I reverted back both of those last vandalisms to your old version, that's why I didn't doa rollback...just so you know.-- MONGO 10:07, 16 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Good idea...see ya around!-- MONGO 10:11, 16 December 2005 (UTC) reply

I would like to know why you removed my insertion of the NPOV tag into the death toll section of the Hurricane Katrina article. This was my first edit, did I do something wrong? I think it's indisputable that the comments in the section are far from neutral. While I agree with them, language like that has no place in the article- it needs to be reworked. ERTBen 01:43, 17 December 2005 (UTC) reply

I would like to edit the Death Toll section of the Katrina article to reflect the fact that there is now an agreement for FEMA and the states on paying for the DNA tests on victims - see http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunherald/13399618.htm, http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/12/06/katrina.dna/, http://edition.cnn.com/2005/US/11/17/katrina.dna/ for details. I noticed the tag noeditsection has been added, I've read the article on section editing but it doesn't mention the power of this tag. What is its purpose? Also, may I add my edit above to the section by changing the words and liking my sources in the external links/sources section? ERTBen 02:05, 17 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Please do not use rollback to revert something that is not vandalism (in fact, the reversion to a redirect is close to vandalism, as no merging was done). -- SPUI ( talk) 02:45, 17 December 2005 (UTC) reply

HLLO NSLE,
THNK you for the SPRT on my RCNT RQST for ADMN SHIP. I HOPE to MAKE a FINE ADMN and use my PWRS for GOOD rather than EVUL. SRRY, for the bad JOKE. (Actually it has something to do with the fact that I mentally pronounce your name as " Nestlé"). — FREAK OF NUR_xTURE ( TALK) 06:01, Dec. 17, 2005

Happy birthday to you, definitely! ;) Tito xd^{( ?!? - did you read this?)} 00:13, 18 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Happy birthday from me too!! deeptrivia ( talk) 00:18, 18 December 2005 (UTC) reply

(NOTE: The problem was fixed by AySz88 after I messaged you. I'm just leaving the message here to show what I meant. -- RattleMan 22:00, 18 December 2005 (UTC)) reply

It appears that something happened, and any page with Template:Infobox_hurricane_season on it will display this message INSIDE THE TEXT OF THE ARTICLE: "You are reading this text because this page uses a meta-template that has been deprecated according to WP:AUM. Please fix the page to exclude this template. See also Template talk:If. You are reading this text because this page uses a meta-template that has been deprecated according to WP:AUM. Please fix the page to exclude this template. See also Template talk:If." This MAJORLY screws over many hurricane season articles. Any ideas? -- RattleMan 20:04, 18 December 2005 (UTC) reply

ADD: I just went to individual hurricane articles. Take a look at Hurricane Wilma, for instance. Look over in the infobox. The lowest pressure is gone. GONE. Yes. Take a look at Jdorje's Jose track in the 2K5AHS article. This a big problem. -- RattleMan 20:17, 18 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Thanks for voting in my recent RfA. I was overwhelmed at the turnout and comments received.

Ian ≡ talk 07:37, 19 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Feels good to go retro, Killerdark. I'll never forget having one of those. -- Eddie

Good evening. I noticed that you just blocked user:71.225.90.225. I almost overrode your block because I didn't see it. My instinct was to block for about 3 hours to see if that would break the pattern. If I had done that (not knowing that you'd blocked for 31 hours), my action would have had the effect of unblocking earlier than intended. I would prefer to defer to your judgment as the person who first found and fixed the problem. It was really only dumb luck that I discovered that you'd already blocked this vandal. When you institute a block for vandalism, would you please mark the user's Talk page, for example, with {{ test5}}? Thanks. Rossami (talk) 02:04, 21 December 2005 (UTC) reply

NSLE, thanks for your support on my RFA. I was rather suprised at the overwhelming support I received. Thank you for your confidence in me. I hope that I'll live up to your expectations in the future as well. Also thanks for the pre-emptive voice in the irc channel. :) -- malo (tlk) (cntrbtns) 04:30, 21 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Hi, came across this edit summary of yours on the above article - Ghulam Mohammed - NSLE m (rm nn-bio tag, undeleted. Please help to expand it, or it'd meet WP:CSD A1.). However CSD A1 reads Very short articles providing little or no context (e.g., "He is a funny man that has created Factory and the Hacienda. And, by the way, his wife is great."). Limited content is not in itself a reason to delete if there is enough context to allow expansion. Google may help in determining context and allow for the article's expansion. So, I doubt if it would qualify for CSD. -- Gurubrahma 07:09, 22 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Hello NSLE,

I was recently trying to create a page regarding Magician Greg Frewin and it was deleted. I was notified it was deleted by you and that the reason would be listed. I wasn't able to see such info so I thought I'd ask you directly.

I'm new to Wikipedia and find it quite confusing so I may have done things incorrectly. Looking forward to hearing your response.

Best Regards,

Timothy Drake

Hello NSLE,

Thanks for your reply.

I must have created a duplicate page while trying to edit. Thanks for your help by deleting it. I'll look up what de-POVd means. Like I said I'm quite new at this and will have to learn a bit more before I can become an expert. I'm also trying to figure out how to add a photo.

Best Regards,

Tim

Why did you make User:68.167.45.99, User:24.105.138.40, User:69.112.54.11, User:198.22.123.103, User:66.114.67.80 redirect to User:EddieSegoura? -- rogerd 17:34, 23 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Has been restored and is now at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James S. Putnam. - brenneman ^{(t) (c)} 22:37, 23 December 2005 (UTC) reply

• If you looked at the history of James S. Putnam before you deleted it, you no doubt saw that I had previously removed an A7 speedy tag, and gave my reason in the edit summery. Please note that under WP:CSD A7, a claim of notability, even if unsourced (unless perhaps wildly improbable, such as "Joe Smith is the Emperor of Earth") is enough that an article does not qualify for an A7 delete. I have been a fairly strong advovcate of the relatively free use of A7, but IMO a claim of participating in a world-champaionship sporting event is a claim of notability. Whether sources can be found, and whether this is enough notability for a wikipedia article, are IMO the kind of questions that should be decided at WP:AFD. Please consider this when deleting articles in future, particularly under A7. Thank you. DES ^(talk) 00:30, 24 December 2005 (UTC) reply

I think it's an absolute farce that you've had to change your name just because someone opposed you for not liking your old name. Anyhow, good luck with your RFA. NSLE _{( T+ C+ CVU)} 07:09, 24 December 2005 (UTC) reply

This isn't the first time that someone has taken issue with my username, and it likely wouldn't have been the last. If I'm to be a sysop, I want to serve the community in the most effective manner possible, so it probably was best for me to switch to my real name (which presumably shouldn't be objectionable to anyone other than anti-Semites). — David Levy 07:20, 24 December 2005 (UTC) reply

MERRY CHRISTMAS, NSLE/Archive 3! Hope it's a wonderful one! (happy New Year, too!)-- Violin G irl ^♪ 15:11, 24 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Hi NSLE, if you are not aware of the COTW we are having here, you may like to look at this page here and take a look. Thanks. A Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. -- Terence Ong ^Talk 16:32, 24 December 2005 (UTC) reply

No, I mean with this anon nonsense. There's no need for him to use anon accounts now. My patience with him is next to gone. karmafist 02:11, 25 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Exactly. Eddie doesn't seem to understand what's going on. I'd just ignore him in all of this, and just not bother with the sock tags one way another unless he apologizes to you. If he harrasses you anymore, I'm going to give him a block. None of this is necessary, he can just sign in and not use anon accounts and avoid being seen as as a sockpuppeteer at all. karmafist 02:17, 25 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Rfar

Eh, that's nothing. I wouldn't worry about it. A whole slew of people came to my aid even after the large majority of the arbcom spoke in my favor. karmafist 02:19, 25 December 2005 (UTC) reply

I already added the source. Why u remove it? It is in the "Source" section. I better readd it. Or you... Irfanfaiz 08:17, 27 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Hi - Your first response was hilarious, but your second thoughts were probably more appropriate (sorry to say). Just thought I'd let you know somebody noticed both, and both were appreciated. -- Rick Block ( talk) 05:43, 28 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Congrats! NSLE _{( T+ C+ CVU)} 05:24, 28 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Thank you, and thanks for your support! Your trust means a great deal to me, and I promise to try my hardest to serve the community. David Levy 06:32, 28 December 2005 (UTC) reply

You inquired about the 403 on my tool on IRC today, sorry I was away at the time. Kate's tool is up now, so perhaps that will work for you. Apparently tools that scrape HTML get blocked from Wikimedia wikis, so that's why the error message is seen on my tool. I'm trying to see if I can move some of my features over to the toolserver, or in the meantime, I'm implementing an interim version here, so I can continue working out some of the additional user-requested features (it should be more functional in a day or two). -- Interiot 07:22, 28 December 2005 (UTC) reply

hey, I saw that you made Template:User WPTC. I was working on a different infobox, that's available at User:Titoxd/UserPage/CycloneBox... perhaps you want to merge that box into yours? Tito xd^{( ?!? - help us)} 21:55, 28 December 2005 (UTC) reply

There are three things we're updating on the infoboxes right now. We finished adding pressure to all of them. We're adding the category field, which I saw you've done to some 2005 storms. We're also splitting "duration" into "formed" and "dissipated" fields. And we've renamed the "total damages (USD)" field as "total damages". HurricaneHink and I updated all the infoboxes for the NIndian and South, as well as for the NAtlantic up through G. Jdorje 03:53, 29 December 2005 (UTC) reply

I dunno, the formed/dissipated isn't really any different from the old duration except that it takes two lines. The main benefit I guess is that it's possible to fully wikify the dates so they show correctly in all locales (though it's taken from the french template, which apparently doesn't wikify its dates at all, so I'm not sure why they do it). Jdorje 03:58, 29 December 2005 (UTC) reply

There's a short discussion on the wikiproject page on what constitutes dissipation. Jdorje 04:09, 29 December 2005 (UTC) reply

I really don't think adding super typhoon to the categories is the right thing to do. What we should do is add a separate "type" field so it shows as "Category 5 hurricane" or "Category 5 super typhoon". The point of the categories is to provide a scale consistent across basins, and to integrate the colors into it. Jdorje 04:15, 29 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Oh yeah, and the reason I didn't do that already is it doesn't work with tropical storms. "Tropical storm" is both a category (in our color scheme) and a type. Jdorje 04:15, 29 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Right, so you have Category 4 Super Typhoons and Category 5 Super Typhoons and Category 4 Typhoons. Which is ugly, but it still works in the color system...just some super typhoons are orange and some are red. Jdorje 04:24, 29 December 2005 (UTC) reply

How about the {{{type}}} field I just added? For Wpac storms it should be "td", "ts", "typhoon", or "super typhoon". I added a switch so ts and td are just left out and only the category is shown. Jdorje 04:32, 29 December 2005 (UTC) reply

See my example at Typhoon Tip. Jdorje 04:37, 29 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Thanks for the help with the userboxes. I see how you did it too :) -- Hurricane Eric - my dropsonde - archive 05:22, 29 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Damnit! I hate working with HTML! Now all the userboxes I try to add get screwed up. This new one refuses to align right and has this massive fricking margin at the bottom. All my attempts to correct it have failed and I'm getting a little irritated. Why can't it just be the same for every box? Could you help me out and tell me exactly how you do it so I won't have to use you a a crutch anymore? -- Hurricane Eric - my dropsonde - archive 05:43, 29 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Hi NSLE. Regarding your response to Eddie's vote on Quadell's RFB--I doubt that you meant to sound malicious, but when I read the comment, I saw it as being rather rude. I only point this out because admins need to be careful and precise with their language, and if I interpreted your comment that way, others probably did too. ~ MDD 46 96 19:30, 29 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Thanks for working so hard to stop the AOL vandal going after Quadell and his RfB supporters. Semi-protection was a great idea. -- MicahMN | μ 06:59, 31 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Thanks for reminding me about this! I look forward to talks about Chinese related stuff in the future. karmafist 01:50, 30 December 2005 (UTC) reply

I haven't IRC'd before, and would probably frustrate and make a fool of myself setting it up. Would Email work, or shall I make the attempt? — Bunchofgrapes ( talk) 04:31, 30 December 2005 (UTC) reply

I shall be brave and try. Hang on. — Bunchofgrapes ( talk) 04:36, 30 December 2005 (UTC) reply

How do You access the IRC? I get the dreaded "Page can't be displayed" error. Do I need a specific browser? -- Eddie 04:48, 30 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Thanks for reverting vandalism on my talk page. :) A happy new year to you. -- Terence Ong ^Talk 11:44, 31 December 2005 (UTC) reply

This is not a wise thing to do, imo. It prevents new users from participating and they are allowed to. The only restriction is on anons, and a crat should be more than capable of handling a few unstruck votes. They should be equally capable of handling meats/socks. WP:SEMI is not a means to prevent people you find unsavoury from editing, especially not in a process that depends so crucially on participation as an RfB. I've removed the sprotect. - Splash ^talk 12:54, 31 December 2005 (UTC) reply

I'm curious about you reverting an edit on my talk page. That's normally reserved for cases of blatant and egregious vandalism, such as blanking, not to silence others. I'm capable of recognizing a troll – if an anonymous AOL user opposes Quadell's RfB, that's all the more reason for me to support him. In any case, an explanation in the edit summary is warranted even if it means slightly more work than hitting the "revert" link. —  Kbh3^rd talk 17:59, 31 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Thought you might be interested: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Anonymous_editor_2

Nah, i'm just starting a thirteenth month made up of the holiday shopping season ;-) Sorry, my friend. Do me a favor and page move for me. karmafist 01:45, 1 January 2006 (UTC) reply

lol. I have to make {{ User lazy}} with some copyrighted image just so I can piss off the instruction creeps and Fair Use paranoids some more ;-) karmafist 01:50, 1 January 2006 (UTC) reply