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Hi MisterBee1966. I see you transcluded this FLC this morning. Thing is, your existing nomination has yet to draw any comments, nor support, so I would urge you to remove this latest nomination until such a time that issues in the 1942 list can be sorted out and read across to your other lists. Thanks. The Rambling Man ( talk) 08:11, 2 November 2010 (UTC) reply

No issues have been reported because nobody's reviewed it, and nobody's supporting it yet! The Rambling Man ( talk) 08:46, 2 November 2010 (UTC) reply
When you nominate two lists of a similar nature, it's best to wait until one has a number of reviews/support in case there are fundamental issues with one of them which would therefore impact the other. Also, the FLC instructions are quite clear on this : Users should not add a second FL nomination until the first has gained substantial support and reviewers' concerns have been substantially addressed. The Rambling Man ( talk) 10:49, 2 November 2010 (UTC) reply
Leave the 1942 one (I'm hoping to get time to review it in the next couple of days, by the way), and withdraw the 1943 one. Cheers. The Rambling Man ( talk) 11:14, 2 November 2010 (UTC) reply

Edmund Rossmann

Sehr geehrter MisterBee1966,

Als ein naher verwandter des verstorbenen jagdfliegers Edmund Roßmann würde ich gerne mit ihnen Kontakt aufnehmen. Meine Mail Adresse ist HenningRossmann@web.de —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rossmann91 ( talkcontribs) 22:37, 2 November 2010 (UTC) reply

Major Eduard Tratt

Dear "MisterBee1966",

according to the editorial page concerning the information on Major Eduard Tratt you wrote most of it.

Please keep in mind that there still exist the relatives of Major Eduard Tratt whom you did not contact before providing the information to the English branch of Wikipedia.

In case you would like to get some further information please drop me a message via Wikipedia "My talk". (You can use the German language in order to leave me a message. I am a native German speaker!)

I am looking forward to receiving some lines from you.

Wikipedia user "Eduard Tratt" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eduard Tratt ( talkcontribs) 20:35, 5 November 2010 (UTC) reply

For your further information:

DO NOT mess up with the family = the relatives of Major Eduard Tratt!!!

In memoriam of Eduard Tratt

Wikipedia user "Eduard Tratt" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eduard Tratt ( talkcontribs) 21:09, 5 November 2010 (UTC) reply

Dear "MisterBee1966",

I have received your following lines:

So how can I help you? I have a question regarding the removal of citations. Why did you remove them? Surely you understand the principles of Wikipedia. All information posted on Wikipedia is subject to WP:Verifiability—The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth—whether readers can check that material in Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source, not whether editors think it is true.—which means if its not written somewhere and not verifiable by the reader it is subject to deletion, whereas cited information prevails. Now, this doesn't mean that the sources are correct, and as a relative you may have more insight into the matter than others. But accusing me or others on Wikipedia of "DO NOT mess up with the family = the relatives of Major Eduard Tratt!!!" is impolite and wrong! The information posted on the article was based on the sources referenced. I suggest that you provide verifiable evidence for the changes you made. Thank you and good day. MisterBee1966 (talk) 06:22, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Here are my answers:

1.) Why did I remove one of the citations? My answer is: The information given by you concerning the rank of my relative was false. Eduard Tratt happened to be Hauptmann at this time of his career and not Oberleutnant! (As a member of the family of Eduard Tratt I do not have to provide you any evidence. You should have contacted the family before placing the information.)

2.) Why did I mention "not to mess up" with my family? Answer: In the past so called "researchers" tried to gather information on Eduard Tratt using illegal measures and methods. I totally dislike such persons! In case you are not such a person I apologize for my words.

3.) How can you help me? The answer is that I think it is the opposite way this help works. Within the article on Eduard Tratt I placed additional information which you did not have e.g. the time for his awards concerning the different classes of the "Iron Cross". (As a member of the family of Eduard Tratt I do not have to provide you any evidence. You should have contacted the family before placing the information.)

Have a nice weekend! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eduard Tratt ( talkcontribs) 10:38, 6 November 2010 (UTC) Dear "MisterBee1966", nunmehr die entsprechenden Antworten auf Deutsch. reply

Wie bereits in Englisch ausgeführt, brauche ich als Mitglied der Familie von Eduard Tratt Ihnen keine Nachweise der Richtigkeit meiner Angaben zu erbringen. Die entsprechenden Unterlagen (Urkunden etc.) liegen mir vor!

Man konnte zwischenzeitlich feststellen, dass Sie die Tschechische Internetseite über Eduard Tratt als externen Link angefügt haben. Diese Seite ist mir bereits schon länger (seit 2003) bekannt. Die dort gemachten Angaben waren - auch - nicht mit der Familie von Eduard Tratt abgestimmt und sind fehlerhaft. Als Beispiel für fehlerhafte Angaben ist zu nennen, dass Tratt's erste Abschüsse keine Hurricanes sondern Spitfire waren.

Weitere Informationen kann ich Ihnen über diese Plattform (= Wikipedia) zukommen lassen. Von daher bestätige ich nochmals die Aussage, dass ich Ihnen wohl helfen kann und nicht umgekehrt.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Wikipedia user "Eduard Tratt" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eduard Tratt ( talkcontribs) 12:40, 6 November 2010 (UTC) reply

Dear "MisterBee1966",

wie bereits mehrfach ausgeführt, sind Ihre Quellen nicht zuverlässig, weil sie nicht mit der Familie von Eduard Tratt abgestimmt sind. Dies verdeutlicht erneut Ihr Verweis auf eine Fundstelle (bzw. die von mir gelöschte, falsche Fundstelle), die unkorrekte Angaben zu meinem Familienmitglied Eduard Tratt macht! Ich hätte mehr von den sogenannten "Wissenschaftlern" - zu denen Sie sich zu zählen scheinen - erwartet.

Naja, das kommt wohl davon, wenn man nicht wirklich mit den Familienmitgliedern in Verbindung steht!

Wie bereits ausgeführt, besteht die Möglichkeit, Ihnen - nach der Preisgabe Ihres realen Namens [und nicht nur Ihrer User-ID] - weitere Informationen zu meinem Familienmitglied Eduard Tratt zu liefern.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Wikipedia user "Eduard Tratt"

P.S. Bitte sehen Sie von weiteren, überholten Verweisen auf die Policies von Wikipedia ab, denn gerade Sie sind derjenige, der sich allem Anschein nach nicht um die persönliche und reale Wirklichkeit der Angaben kümmert. Andererseits sei der Hinweis angebracht, dass auch der Schein trügen kann!!

P.S.S. Sofern Sie wirklich jemand sein sollten, der historisch korrekt forschen sollte, dann dürften Sie auch um andere Diskussionsforen - z.B. zur Thematik meines Familienmitglieds - wissen. (Mal sehen, ob Sie mich über diese Foren erreichen.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eduard Tratt ( talkcontribs) 15:24, 6 November 2010 (UTC) Dear "MisterBee1966", reply

folgende Nachfrage sei gestattet, sofern Sie wirklich ein gewissenhafter Forscher sein sollten:

Wann genau wurde Eduard Tratt für die Verleihung des Eichenlaubes vorgeschlagen? Sollten Sie diese Antwort nicht wissen, so erübrigen sich weitere Gedankenaustäusche.

MfG

Wikipedia user "Eduard Tratt" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eduard Tratt ( talkcontribs) 15:53, 6 November 2010 (UTC) reply

Dear "MisterBee1966",

as you like to prefer to exchange lines in English I will answer your latest lines briefly.

In one comment you suggested to use Fellgiebel as a source of information concerning the award of the "Eichenlaub" to Eduard Tratt. I do not think that the addition "... a member of Eduard Tratt's family ..." didn't confirm this source of information is the correct approach for the solution of this problem. The truth should be told and not what Fellgiebel wrote in his book concerning the "Eichenlaub".

In your latest lines you asked me which kind of source I might consider trustworthy. The correct answer is: the information which is required to provide trustful information upon Major Eduard Tratt lies within his personal documents e.g. the papers regarding the reward of "awards", "ranks" etc.

I do not know if you are aware of the fact that most of the books dealing with the different kinds of "Zerstörergeschwader" were based on Obermaier. Obermaier in common is a valid source of information but it is not the only one!

I may consider that you establish contact to the authors/writers of the different books concerning the "Zerstörergeschwader" of the German Nazi Luftwaffe before you provide information dealing with these troops and their (crew)members before you provide any information to the usual users of Wikipedia (the English or any other branch/version).

The use of only books concerning the awards of members of the Luftwaffe or the use of - dated - external hyperlinks does not further your attempt to provide valid information.

Regards

Wikipedia user "Eduard Tratt"

P.S. As I mentioned before I do have personal documents concerning the military awards, carreer and commands of Eduard Tratt. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eduard Tratt ( talkcontribs) 17:15, 6 November 2010 (UTC) reply

DYK for Robert-Georg Freiherr von Malapert

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Walter Storp

Never heard of it. No HMS exists by this name. Perhaps its Swedish. The only Fafnir I know of is the Bramo 323 name. My sources make no mention of it. Dapi89 ( talk) 18:05, 12 November 2010 (UTC) reply

Thanks a lot for adding those extra references. I'd only seen the short piece in Hogben's technical history and thought it was interesting about him saving prisoners. Your addition makes it a much stronger article.

I'm saddened to see that he died in only 1946. Do you know any more? I'm guessing this was during further disposal work post-war? Any expansion on the background to his Ritterkreuz would be welcome too.

I'm planning articles for Feueurwerker (armourer), Sprengkommando (just stub definitions) and List of Luftwaffe air-dropped bomb fuzes in World War II (better name?) soon.

Thanks, Andy Dingley ( talk) 11:35, 15 November 2010 (UTC) reply

I also see that you've already linked him from List of Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross recipients: Sch. However this list describes him as Heer, rather than Luftwaffe. I'd assumed (on admittedly poor grounds) that he was Luftwaffe. Do we have a good source for one or the other, because at present the article and the list contradict each other. Andy Dingley ( talk) 11:49, 15 November 2010 (UTC) reply

Re: Review

Of course, with pleasure. I have some suggestions already, but I'm afraid I won't be able to comment on the FLC tomorrow. I will certainly have the time on Friday night and / or Saturday morning. If you need it earlier, I can certainly stress my schedule. I will be more specific in the review, but in general I want you to know that the lists are indeed worth of reaching featured status; I don't think they lack something compared to other relative lists that reached featured status the past months / years. Best wishes, -- Jake V ( talk) 20:50, 17 November 2010 (UTC) reply

Yes, I am sure that this could be extremely useful; Even I have many problems when it comes to abbreviations of units, ranks etc. It could help a lot people who are not familiar to the subject. I can't think something better than that. It will spare a lot of explanatory notes. As for the photos, I'm glad we agree that "free" pose is not adequate.
P.S. Have you ever thought of making a list of Knight's Cross Recipients of the Gebirgsjäger? There is some literature available (Die Ritterkreuzträger der Gebirgstruppe, I think 2 vols). A suggestion only, as I see you have plenty of tasks for now -- Jake V ( talk) 13:23, 20 November 2010 (UTC) reply
If you can, add a relevant example of a Batallion of an Infanterieregiment to help those who are not familiar with the structure in general. Perhaps expand to the numerical conventions of Army and Army Corps level? In that case, the glossary of Kumm's History of the Prinz Eugen Division I bought recently could be used as a reference about when and where arabic / latin numbers are used. If you want I can add the ref. Other than that - which is not a great matter - the article adresses the issue completely in my viewpoint -- Jake V ( talk) 11:27, 21 November 2010 (UTC) reply
Oh and btw good luck with the Oak Leaves recipients! -- Jake V ( talk) 11:27, 21 November 2010 (UTC) reply

Review

It seems you are doing much better now. One down one to go!
I hadn't a chance to reply sooner. I have been away for two days staring at Tiger, Panther and Jagd-type AFVs. I had a chance to inspect the Tiger I - the only one in the World still running. The damage is still visible below the turret line (they tend to keep damage and not restore those parts, more authentic I think). The driver said it was rotten to drive and it took/takes 10 hours of maintenance for every one hour on operations. Didn't know that. Unfortunately we could not stay long – it was tucked away in a shed next to some current MOD repair workshop which we were not allowed to see, and the workers only gave us five minutes. Some rare stuff in there. They even have a Jagdpanzer. I believe its the largest concentration of rare-ish AFVs in the World. Dapi89 ( talk) 18:32, 18 November 2010 (UTC) reply

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Galland

Yes, since he surrendered before the 8 May. This means he was a POW during and after hostilities. So either way, he was a POW of the Americans during and after the war. Dapi89 ( talk) 14:37, 23 November 2010 (UTC) reply

Otto Ernst Lindemann

Good for you. It is probably a good idea to do articles like this and stay away from the large ones. It is a habit I have not got into yet. My sources are thin on the ground regarding him personally, but I can help with his career during his Captaincy of Bismarck. Just yell whenever you want something. P.S, What about an effort on the Lutjens page? Dapi89 ( talk) 17:43, 1 December 2010 (UTC) reply

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Kurt Bühligen

In my source it is spelt as above. Dapi89 ( talk) 10:17, 13 December 2010 (UTC) reply

Your DYK nomination of Ernst Lindemann

DYK criteria requires 5x expansion, but expansion of Ernst Lindemann is presently at 1.3x since December 9 (the last version of the article before December 11). KimChee ( talk) 22:37, 15 December 2010 (UTC) reply

What? For many days I have expanded the article from a mere stub to what it is now. Look at the article history. MisterBee1966 ( talk) 06:16, 16 December 2010 (UTC) reply
I do not doubt the amount of work you have put into the article. However, according to DYK selection criterion #1, the 5x expansion must have occurred within the last 5 days to be acceptable as "new". You are welcome to request a second opinion if you disagree with this. KimChee ( talk) 06:28, 16 December 2010 (UTC) reply
Rules are rules. So be it MisterBee1966 ( talk) 20:01, 16 December 2010 (UTC) reply
To be honest, I am sorry to be the bearer of bad news as I found the work on the article to be impressive. I admit that I sometimes plan my expansion work on some articles with the DYK rules in mind. KimChee ( talk) 20:05, 16 December 2010 (UTC) reply
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Season' s greetings

Merry Christmas and a happy, productive New Year! -- Jake V ( talk) 13:27, 25 December 2010 (UTC) reply

Manfred Von?

See here. Bzuk ( talk) 04:22, 31 December 2010 (UTC) reply

Happy, happy

Happy New Year, and all the best to you and yours! Bzuk ( talk) 08:05, 1 January 2011 (UTC) reply

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Scharnhorst

Hey MisterBee - I'm working on a rewrite of German battleship Scharnhorst, and came up with names and (some) dates for the ship's four commanders. I saw you created articles on the first two captains. Can you take a look at what I've got and see if you can add anything? It's particularly sketchy with the last commander - I can't find even the month he took command of the ship. Parsecboy ( talk) 00:26, 12 January 2011 (UTC) reply

I actually just found the month Hintz took command, so that's something. Parsecboy ( talk) 00:39, 12 January 2011 (UTC) reply

Thanks

Nice try, but you wasted your time as I did. The guy is what Wikipedia calls a massive DICK. You try to help these people out, and this is what you get. Dapi89 ( talk) 18:56, 13 January 2011 (UTC) reply

Happy 10th Anniversary of Wikipedia!

HJ Marseille

If you have some spare cash, this may interest you. Unfortunately, Marseille's has been sold for $3,600 [1]. Dapi89 ( talk) 17:08, 15 January 2011 (UTC) reply

Knights Cross

Hi MisterBee 1966
As you seem to be the main-man regarding all things Knights Cross you might be interested in giving the Erich Schroedter page the once over.

Regards

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Lineage of Bunderswehr Heer

Dear MisterBee1966, thanks for your note. Please just ask at http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal_Diskussion:Milit%C3%A4r whether anyone has any information on units of the Bundeswehr Heer tracing lineage from units in earlier pre-1945 German armies. Is that reasonably clear? - don't hesitate to ask further if it is not. Buckshot06 (talk) 06:20, 20 January 2011 (UTC) reply


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Rodney and Norfolk

According to Ballard and this one [2], it was Norfolk the did it. Dapi89 ( talk) 21:22, 14 February 2011 (UTC) reply

DYK for Adalbert Schneider

Materialscientist ( talk) 00:03, 18 February 2011 (UTC) reply

He is now featured on Portal:Germany. If you have more DYK related to Germany, feel free to place it there yourself. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 08:52, 18 February 2011 (UTC) reply

Alois Lindmayr

If I could be cheeky, can you do one on this KC holder? He featured in the Battle of Britain Day as leader of the KG 76 raid. Thanks. Dapi89 ( talk) 18:00, 19 February 2011 (UTC) reply

I'll add the meagre crap I've got then! Thanks. Dapi89 ( talk) 21:45, 19 February 2011 (UTC) reply
Good. Maybe someone will have more literature. Dapi89 ( talk) 13:12, 20 February 2011 (UTC) reply

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Lindemann article, tactical considerations

Hi again, thanks for challenging my interpretation of that sentence. I am still unsure exactly what is meant. Does the source state that Lindemann was a tactically orientated commander, rather than a strategically educated officer? It's a pretty big statement, especially given the controversial role by his senior in the battle. Rumiton ( talk) 10:05, 24 February 2011 (UTC) reply

DYK for Alois Lindmayr

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Walter Koch (Fallschirmjäger)

Seems a good guy must have been hard for a serving officer not to follow Hitler's commando order, so good for him. For B Class needs something from his early life pre armed forces. Jim Sweeney ( talk) 14:56, 1 March 2011 (UTC) reply

DYK for Walter Koch (Fallschirmjäger)

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Congratulations! Thanks for adding him to the DYK Archive Germany and taking care of the new month there. I also placed him on the Portal, looks great, you will manage next time, -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 13:21, 3 March 2011 (UTC) reply

Hi, I left you a little more feedback on Talk:Ernst Lindemann/GA1. Obviously, not being an expert and not having access to the offline sources, I can only do so much, but I hope you'll get a peer review and take it for an A-class review and even FAC in the not-too-distant future. Congratulations, that's a nice article. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 11:30, 2 March 2011 (UTC) reply

Just wanted to concur with HJ Mitchell. As you know, I have spent a few hours copyediting this article recently and it has been a pleasure. This is entirely due to the passion and care you have brought to the article. I know I am involved with something way above average when I find myself liking and caring about the subject, and I found this with Captain Lindemann. Thank you. Rumiton ( talk) 10:32, 9 March 2011 (UTC) reply

SMS Markgraf

Hey, MB - I just put SMS Markgraf up for FAC - do you have any information on any of the ship's commanders? If so (or if you'd like to review the article) you can find the nomination here. Thanks for any help you might be able to provide. Parsecboy ( talk) 01:06, 4 March 2011 (UTC) reply

Well Done!

A very manly man, just like you!

You have been awarded the Manliness Award for helping to construct a great encyclopedia.


Keep up the great work!


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Questions

Hi. I left a couple of questions and suggestions for you on my talk page. Or would you prefer to chat here? Rumiton ( talk) 13:05, 17 March 2011 (UTC) reply

Sorry, I had missed this MisterBee1966 ( talk) 13:50, 17 March 2011 (UTC) reply

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Ernst Lindemann

I believe that Secondary School should be in capitals as should Naval Captain, as an official title, if not an actual rank. Where it is written "first or second gunnery officer" should this not be First or Second Gunnery Officer - capitals for title? Dapi89 ( talk) 15:28, 22 March 2011 (UTC) reply

If I might butt in... I believe secondary school should only be capitalised if it is part of the name of an actual school, eg Brown Hill Secondary School. Another secondary school in the neighborhood uses small letters. Similarly, ranks only get capitals if they are part of a person's title, eg Captain Brown. If First Lieutenant Brown was promoted to captain, then no capital. Sometimes it does look a little strange. Rumiton ( talk) 17:39, 22 March 2011 (UTC) reply
I have to follow lead here! I have no clue! MisterBee1966 ( talk) 17:49, 22 March 2011 (UTC) reply
Hi there. I have a question for you on my talk page. Cheers. Rumiton ( talk) 10:03, 2 April 2011 (UTC) reply

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DYK Soviet War Memorial (Vienna)

Hello, thank you for reviewing the article I submitted, Soviet War Memorial (Vienna) at the T:TDYK nomination's page. I added the cite you suggested, thanks, Leidseplein ( talk) 13:19, 3 April 2011 (UTC) reply

RE: Schneider

I'd say he seems to be integral enought to the Bismarck's final voyage that he qualifies, the Cross sure doesn't hurt. If you still have any doubt, WT:OMT is the place (we discuss if there is an article in the scope all the time); though I must warn you that most of the guys have eyes only for the phase I articles (ships and classes) at the moment. Personally, I think that sailors are more important to the history of a ship than the guns, but they are harder to document significance. bahamut0013 words deeds 11:22, 8 April 2011 (UTC) reply

Yeah, I would say he qualifies. On an unrelated note (and why I came by) is an article I just started: Reinhold Werner. He was a Vice Admiral in the Prussian/North German/Imperial navies, and wondered if you might have access to information in any of your sources on him. I've got most of the broad strokes on his career (though haven't yet been able to find out when he died, oddly enough). Any help you might be able to provide would be appreciated. Parsecboy ( talk) 18:58, 8 April 2011 (UTC) reply
And now I see that there already was a rather short stub on him at Reinhold von Werner - I moved the new version there. Oddly enough I had added a line to the old version last month, and yet forgot about it entirely. Parsecboy ( talk) 20:15, 8 April 2011 (UTC) reply

DYK for Helmuth Brinkmann

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Newsletter column on FAC reviewing

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DYK for Heinz-Otto Schultze

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DYK for Otto Schultze

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Soviet Airwomen

Hello, how are You doing? I hope you are doing well... May I ask You just one question: my book about the Soviet airwomen has been released http://www.aviolibri.it/prodotti/8678_gian_piero_milanetti_le_streghe_della_notte_la_storia_non_detta_delle_eroiche_ragazze_pilo.php?page=1&ordina=data_inserimento ... I should add some of the datas and informations that I discovered, but I do not know if it is possible in wikipedia... May I quote myself? I am afraid not... regards -- Gian piero milanetti ( talk)

SMS Friedrich der Grosse (1911) ACR

Hi, MisterBee1966. The SMS Friedrich der Grosse (1911) A-class review is due to be closed shortly and I am trying to gauge if all concerns have been addressed so I can look to close it. If you are free (I notice you might be unavailable), would you mind taking another look at the ACR and stating if you support or oppose it's promotion? Cheers. AustralianRupert ( talk) 13:38, 22 April 2011 (UTC) reply

Lindemann

i made a few formatting changes and also removed some detail from lead, happy to discuss, Tom B ( talk) 21:16, 26 April 2011 (UTC) reply

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Lindemann article

I am afraid I have got too busy with some other pressing articles and haven't made much headway with this one. The main problems have been finding rank equivalents, for which there seems to be no guidance available, and this thing called alt text, which I know nothing about, but which seems to be an important issue for some. Rumiton ( talk) 12:08, 2 May 2011 (UTC) reply

An addition to RKträger in the Bundeswehr template

Hello and welcome back (concerning wishes, better late than never :)). I have an addition to the above-mentioned template: Anton Lorch, RK am 4.6.1944 als Obstlt. u. Kde. GebJägRgt 144 / 3GD, became Brigadegeneral in the Bundeswehr after the war: [3] -- Jake V ( talk) 18:24, 9 May 2011 (UTC) reply

I have found a relative list that can be very useful, but I will add any "missing" RKT's later so we don't have any edit conflicts. MfG, -- Jake V ( talk) 18:45, 9 May 2011 (UTC) reply
Hmmm... if there isn't a complete list we'll have to resort in more ad hoc methods of searching. However a list of the BW generals with RK is a start for now. I'll keep my eyes open for any RKT's in the BW below Brigadegeneral, who seem to be the majority -- Jake V ( talk) 19:28, 9 May 2011 (UTC) reply
Voilà, there you have it, a complete list. I should have searched a bit more thoroughly before usurping the space of your talk page. Good night, and when I find time I will aid you -- Jake V ( talk) 19:38, 9 May 2011 (UTC) reply

Wolfram Freiherr von Richthofen

This one is on my to do list. Do you have info on his early life? If so, would you be interested in a collaboration? My info exends only to his military activity in the F and SWW. Dapi89 ( talk) 13:35, 10 May 2011 (UTC) reply

Ok, thank you. Dapi89 ( talk) 13:45, 12 May 2011 (UTC) reply

The Bugle: Issue LXII, April 2011

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List of Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross recipients (A) peer review

Hi, MisterBee, I've closed the Milhist peer review for List of Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross recipients (A) because it has now been nominated for an ACR and it is probably not ideal to have two different review processes open at the same time (keeping the peer review open may take away potential A-class reviewers). I trust that this is okay with you. Good luck with the ACR. Regards, AustralianRupert ( talk) 13:09, 21 May 2011 (UTC) reply

Wolfgang Lüth/Officers ranks

I have just come from the Wolfgang Lüth talk page where I made some pretty crass remarks concerning officer ranks. At that time of night, I was, to put it mildly, rather surprised to see such offerings.
But they are laughable in that they have not been corrected in a relatively long time. If I have offended you, I apologise; I know that my spoken German is far inferior to your written English!
Looking at the article's history, I can see that you are by far the most prolific editor, so I wonder if there is any particular reason why the ranks have not been modified?
I'll go to the article's page now and do the honours.
RASAM ( talk) 13:44, 24 May 2011 (UTC) reply

Main page appearance

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DYK for Georg Dörffel

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Wolfram von Richthofen

Whats the verdict so far? I think it is coming along well. Dapi89 ( talk) 19:23, 30 May 2011 (UTC) reply

Ok. I thought it was a reasonable length. Dapi89 ( talk) 20:54, 5 June 2011 (UTC) reply

The Bugle: Issue LXIII, May 2011

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If you haven't picked it up from your watchlist already, you might want to get over here and check the veracity of a few recent edits. I reverted one that seemed like an error or nonsense because no citations were altered despite the change in meaning, but that user is persistent and it may take a discussion on the talk page to sort it. There's also an anon editor whose changes may have merit but I'm not sure. Cheers, Ian Rose ( talk) 21:42, 5 June 2011 (UTC) reply

Oak Leaves

Instinct tells me you had something to do with it so thanks. I don't have any FAs, or 75 air victories, so the Oak Leaves comes as a bit of a surprise. Dapi89 ( talk) 20:01, 19 June 2011 (UTC) reply

License tagging for File:594px-Eben-Emael-bridges.PNG

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Tirpitz ACR

Hi, MisterBee. I was wondering if you have had time to look at the changes I've made to German battleship Tirpitz since you reviewed the article. I think I've addressed everything you said in your review. Thanks. Parsecboy ( talk) 23:45, 30 June 2011 (UTC) reply

Siegfried Marseille

I appreicate you helping me with my first article greatly but may i ask why are you helping me if you want it deleted? Goldblooded ( talk) 19:13, 2 July 2011 (UTC) reply

Hi MisterBee1966. I saw your deletion request at Commons. Since you removed the coordinate template, do you still want it to be deleted? What is the reason for deletion? Feel free to update the IfD page. Cheers -- Ben.MQ ( talk) 17:48, 11 July 2011 (UTC) reply

Ostfriesland

Hey MB, I've gotten to all of your points, but I have a question for you on the volume of Hildebrand, Röhr and Steinmetz - can you take a look at the ACR? Thanks again. Parsecboy ( talk) 14:49, 12 July 2011 (UTC) reply

Congratulations again!

The Military history A-Class medal with oak leaves
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Milhist FA, A-Class and Peer Reviews Apr–Jun 2011

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The Bugle: Issue LXIV, June 2011

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Copyright problem: Tank Destruction Badge

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German military terms

You may want to contribute to this thread. I have had a look at the lists of Knight's cross recipients and find some of the translations unfortunate. I hope together we can find more appropriate terms. Yours -- FJS15 ( talk) 16:21, 18 July 2011 (UTC) reply

Category:Recipients of the Iron Cross

The only reason that I have added the category is that I had seen it other articles. However your point that a recipient of the Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross is also a recipient of the Iron Cross is very true. I am not sure what to do in regards to future articles. DocYako ( talk) 18:42, 25 July 2011 (UTC) reply

Iron Cross recipents

I'm drafting a list of recipients of the Spanish Cross in Gold with Swords and Diamonds, and of course some went on to win the Iron Cross, which will form (I think) a note on the Spanish Cross listing. What's the general source for the award/date of the award? The pages themselves don't make it clear. Grandiose ( me, talk, contribs) 13:53, 3 August 2011 (UTC) reply

Thanks. The pages (eg. List of Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross recipients (H)) give the names of those who received the Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross and when they received it. What's the (official?) source for them? Grandiose ( me, talk, contribs) 16:57, 3 August 2011 (UTC) reply

The Bugle: Issue LXV, July 2011

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Congratulations

The Military history A-Class medal with oak leaves
On behalf of the coordinators of the Military History project, I award you the ACM with Oak Leaves for your work on on List of Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross recipients (V), List of Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross recipients (U), and List of Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross with Oak Leaves recipients (1945), all of which were promoted to A-Class between July and August 2011. AustralianRupert ( talk) 09:28, 21 August 2011 (UTC) reply

Kaiserin ACR

Hi MB, I know you're on a vacation, but I saw you made a couple of edits today and wondered if you had a second to let me know if I have satisfactorily addressed your points at the ACR. If not, no worries. I hope you're enjoying your time away. Parsecboy ( talk) 19:29, 26 August 2011 (UTC) reply

Coord elections

Great to see you standing again, mate! Cheers, Ian Rose ( talk) 10:19, 6 September 2011 (UTC) reply

Bugle Op-Ed

Hi mate, as a last-minute op-ed for the August Bugle I penned a brief recollection of September 11 for the 10th anniversary. I agreed with Ed that more than one perspective would be appropriate if people can manage it in time (have to be in the next 24 hours or so!) and your name came up as one who might be interested. Here's what's there at the moment, pls feel free to add or comment. Cheers, Ian Rose ( talk) 02:21, 10 September 2011 (UTC) reply

The Bugle: Issue LXVI, August 2011

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Can you check translation?

Hi I have posted a question at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history#Help identifing weapon can you check the translation from German for me. Thanks Jim Sweeney ( talk) 06:39, 13 September 2011 (UTC) reply

Yet again...

it's my pleasure to leave you one of these. Congratulations! EyeSerene talk 16:16, 15 September 2011 (UTC) reply

The Military history A-Class medal with oak leaves
On behalf of the coordinators of the Military History project, I award you the ACM with Oak Leaves for your work on on List of Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross recipients (I), List of Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross recipients (J) and List of Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross recipients (O), all of which were promoted to A-class during August 2011. EyeSerene talk 16:16, 15 September 2011 (UTC) reply

Titan's cross nomination

Hello, MisterBee1966. I see that you are a member of WP:OMT. I am reminding you that there is a discussion [ here] about whther or not to award Bahamut0013, a member of OMt who passsed awsay a short while ago, the Titan's Cross in silver. your opinion will be welcome. Thanks, Buggie111 ( talk) 14:03, 18 September 2011 (UTC) reply

Sorry for my bad english, I'm not a native speaker. I have a question about Emil Lang (fighter ace). I ask you because you expanded this article last year very much. In the article, it's said that he was born at Talheim in the Neckar region near Sontheim of Württemberg. So, where? Sontheim links to Sontheim an der Brenz, but that is not in the neckar region at all, and a "Talheim" is also not nearby. Talheim links to Talheim, Heilbronn, but this is not near Sontheim an der Brenz, and if he would have been born in Talheim, Heilbronn, I think he would have been inscripted in the town's war memorial, but he isn't. So, does the sources you used say anything else that could help to answer this question? SteMicha ( talk) 18:42, 25 September 2011 (UTC) reply

Congratulations!

I am pleased to inform you that you have been elected as a coordinator of the Military history WikiProject. Congratulations on your achievement, and thank you for volunteering!

Discussions of our plans for the coming year will no doubt begin in the next few days. In the meantime, please make sure that you have the coordinators' discussion page on your watchlist, as most of the relevant activity happens there. If you have not already done so, you may want to read the relevant courses in the project academy, as well as the discussion page and its recent archives.

If you have any questions about your work as a coordinator, or anything else, please don't hesitate to ask me directly. Kirill  [talk]  [prof] 02:02, 29 September 2011 (UTC) reply

Congratulations and you're welcome :) EyeSerene talk 08:00, 29 September 2011 (UTC) reply
Ditto from me. Good luck in the new term. Ranger Steve Talk 08:14, 29 September 2011 (UTC) reply

MilHist IRC

Hi MisterBee1966, I'm not sure you're aware of it, but MilHist's got an IRC channel at [4]. I'm getting some people to join it, and because you're a coord, I'd like to ask you to join to make yourself available to others who need help. Dank, The Ed17, Adamdaley, Ian Rose and a few guys are on it, so please join and tell others about it as well. Sp33dyphil " Ad astra" 09:40, 30 September 2011 (UTC) reply

Congratulations!

Coordinator of the Military history Project, September 2010-September 2011

Congrats on your election as Coordinator of the Military history Project! In honor of your achievement, I present you with these stars. Parsecboy ( talk) 22:06, 30 September 2011 (UTC) reply

Milhist FA, A-Class and Peer Reviews Jul-Sep 2011

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Proposed deletion

Hello,

An article you have helped edit, Confirmation and overclaiming of aerial victories during World War II (which was formerly entitled "Confirmation and overclaiming of aerial victories") has been proposed for deletion.

Georgejdorner ( talk) 17:26, 2 October 2011 (UTC) reply

DYK for Der Stern von Afrika

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A-class medal

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Klaus Mietusch

Hi - I was trying to enhance the entry for Klaus Mietusch and saw that you were an early contributor to it. Perhaps you'll review the current article and offer appropriate feedback or editing? Thanks. Joep01 ( talk) 16:38, 26 October 2011 (UTC) reply

Thanks for your feedback on the article in question. I will review the Wick article per your suggestion and attempt to continue the article's build-out. Please feel free to enhance edits or make changes/corrections/clarifications as necessary! Cheers. Joep01 ( talk) 22:07, 26 October 2011 (UTC) reply

The Bugle: Issue LXVII, September 2011

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