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Mabuska, Can you please check this edit that it conforms to copy edit stands,

    Meanwhile a relief expedition under the command of Colonel Percy Kirke set sail from Liverpool on 22nd May. On 15th June, by which stage horseflesh was the only meat available to be purchased, and even then in scarce supply, hope appeared on the horizon for the citizens besieged within the walls of the city. Sails were spotted nine miles off at the entrance to Lough Foyle. There were thirty vessels in all. A secret message from the fleet got past the Irish sentinels and through to the city informing the besieged that Colonel Kirke had arrived from England with an army and some supplies. But this early hope soon gave way to six more weeks of misery. Kirke thought it would be unsafe to try and break the lines of the besieging army and he continued to wait inactive. By late July, famine and disease had reduced the population in the city more so than had been done by enemy fire. Those few who could afford it purchased dogs that had been fattened on the blood of the slain. A puppy's paw cost five shillings and sixpence. People hunted and ate rats, and all this time the relief ships could be seen inactive in the distance. Towards the end of July, a dispatch was sent to Colonel Kirke from England ordering him to relieve the city. On 30 July, two armed merchant ships, Mountjoy and Phoenix, sailed toward the defensive boom (floating barrier) across the River Foyle at Culmore fort, protected by the frigate HMS Dartmouth under Captain John Leake. Mountjoy rammed and broke the boom, and the rest of the ships followed behind and sailed to the city. Many tons of food were unloaded and the siege was relieved although it wasn't until the 31st July that the besiegers guns fell silent.[1]

See my talk page for the full story. Ideally of course it should be reference [1] which is in the lede. The original of the above used sentences that were verbatim from Macaulay's source and it was deleted on that basis. This is the proposed amendment. There is no verbatim in this. I was requested to get it checked by an experienced editor before posting. Centuryofconfusion ( talk) 21:13, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

It would be better to use a more up-to-date modern source rather than an 18th-century one. Even if the copyright has expired you can only verbatim if it is clearly marked out to be a direct quote from the source, and even then. Here is an example where I drectly quoted the charter of Londonderry. See how it is done and how it was made clear that is a direct quote etc.

I don't have time at this exact moment to go over your edit, though sometimes less is best, cutting out unneeded bits that go into too much detail. Mabuska ^(talk) 16:59, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

Mabuska, thanks for your advice, and for your example. The edit which I pasted above does not contain any verbatim. It is an amended version of a similar edit which did contain verbatim. Anyway, I will know in future to highlight verbatim quotes in addition to the sourcing. There is no hurry to fix up the siege article. I noted it to be rather scant in relation to some of the key aspects. The edit above was designed to fill in the gap regarding the starvation and hunger which is a notorious aspect of that episode. Also missing from the article are the details surrounding Lundy himself and whether he was a traitor or just a defeatist. There is also the face off between Captain Adam Murray and King James's entourage at Bishop's Gate which requires more detail, and there is also the very interesting issues surrounding Colonel Cunningham which need more elaboration. Cunningham ended up on trial by a parliamentary enquiry. He got bailed, but I never heard the final outcome. Some of that needs to go into the article, and I think there needs to be a special section entitled the breaking of the boom. Take your time. We'll get it sorted in due course. Centuryofconfusion ( talk) 18:11, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

Mabuska, I was only being half serious because of lack of common usage. The discussion had got me interested in what the last official all-Ireland flag was. I was trying to find an article on the blue Royal Standard Harp banner, /info/en/?search=File:Coat_of_arms_of_Ireland.svg which Cromwell inserted at the centre of the (old) Union Jack during the Commonwealth era /info/en/?search=Flags_of_the_English_Interregnum. I'm wondering was this blue and gold harp flag the official flag of Ireland until 1922. My searches then brought up the Green Ensign too. There's a Wikipedia article about it entitled "Green Ensign". These flags, like the St. Patrick's saltire, would no doubt have remained official in Northern Ireland after 1922, even though they have since fallen into disuse. The green ensign is quite interesting as it contains all the elements of a future compromise (in the real world). It should be green enough for one side without removing the most important element. Centuryofconfusion ( talk) 17:43, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

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  A flag used by parliamentary naval forces after 1658.

Actually, on further reading I see that Cromwell was using the Brian Boru harp (seen on Eire coins) and not the King Henry VIII harp of the Royal Standard that is similar to the one in the green ensign

So perhaps the gold harp on blue was only ever a coat of arms and not a pole flag. Centuryofconfusion ( talk) 17:50, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

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