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Hey there,

I noticed you not only deleted information on Flynas, but you did the same on all the Arab carriers that I added “Arab air carrier organization” to. Why? If you are to take a look on the wiki article of the organization and follow it through other means, you will realize all of these carriers are part of said organization. In fact, I wonder why you haven’t added the information yourself as you are a airline enthusiast it seems. To add, all airlines around the world have alliances and memberships added to their wiki articles without citations. Why the need to suddenly have citations for Arab carriers? Thanks. WatanWatan2020 ( talk) 23:43, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

WP:V applies to every single article. I did not add what you mention because of WP:BURDEN; I'm not gonna do your work for you. Finally, you cannot use Wikipedia as a source for your edits.-- Jetstreamer  ^Talk 00:57, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

This editor put it back, citing the association membership list as a ref, which is WP:PRIMARY. I notice he has been adding links to this association to every member airline. I am not at all convinced that belonging to some random association is anyway notable. Airlines typically belong to dozens of associations, so what? The massed additions of these links looks like WP:COI WP:SPAM to me. - Ahunt ( talk) 01:03, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

In regards to jetstreamer, I added the citation from aaco now. Job done. In regards to Ahunt, as I mentioned before, the AACO is a notable organization and not “a association similar to dozens of association” the way you are trying to portray it. It’s accurate information and will continue to be so. WatanWatan2020 ( talk) 01:10, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

Perhaps you can explain why an airline belonging to AACO is more notable than it belonging to IATA, for instance, which is not specifically mentioned in the article text. Perhaps you can also explain what your own relationship is to AACO and why you think it needs to be added to every member company? - Ahunt ( talk) 01:15, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

Hey Jetstreamer,

Thanks for the assistance in re implementing the sources you told me to add. There is anonymous vandal that is stalking every edit I make, whether related to airlines or not and undoing them. I have all the legitimate sources implemented and such person still reverts it to the formerly unsourced. He is doing it out of spite it seems and is already lobbing threats. He also has implemented incorrect information on top of sourced information regarding correct and up to date information.

I saw your edit in regards to removing the member countries and flags from the AACO page and understand such edit. WatanWatan2020 ( talk) 23:16, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

You can note that this user has been indef blocked for making legal threats. We now resume our regular broadcast. - Ahunt ( talk) 23:56, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

Removing a citation is not vandalism as this user said. Let's just hope they do not log in using a different username.-- Jetstreamer  ^Talk 00:51, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Well that would be WP:BLOCKEVASION and not result in a happy outcome. - Ahunt ( talk) 01:00, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Well I was right. And 90% of the destinations have no source. Thankfully you've used Google for 2 sec to find out that I was right. It is not journalism or anything. But you still had to make the remark like a police officer to fanatic in his job. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.91.169.117 ( talk) 23:40, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

The existence of unsourced material is not an entitlement for you to make more unsourced edits. Do not make further edits if you are not prepared to follow the Wikipedia policies. -- Jetstreamer  ^Talk 23:55, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi. I noticed that you, for the second time, has removed my addition of the Tupolev Tu-154 from Transaero's "retired fleet" list. First time, granted, I didn't include any references. The second time, however, I did include photographic proof that it did in fact happen. Their very first flight back in 1991 was even operated by a Tu-154. I will however admit that I have not been able to find any specific date as to when they were removed from the fleet, and information about their operations in general is pretty limited, even in Russian circles. Even so, it's funny, for the lack of a better word, to see that even photographic evidence isn't enough for the edit to stay. Especially considering many other articles have links directly to Airliners.net, for example, as references.

Now, you may ask, why isn't it listed on other sources? Honestly, I wish I knew. I was quite surprised when I first heard about it too, but at least I attempted to do some digging. Didn't get very far, but I did find that at least four Tu-154's had been with Transaero at one point or another between 1991 and 1993, possibly 1994. It's sad, really, to see this genuinely important part of the airlines history so overlooked.

In retrospect, I guess I could have linked here: https://russianplanes.net/airline/47

OckeDocke ( talk) 07:55, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

Images are not generally considered reliable sources. You can use the last link and see if any other editor considers it reliable.-- Jetstreamer  ^Talk 13:52, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

That rather uncivil IP editor's info about Yemenia was not only poorly cited, but factually incorrect. Just FYI - in case you want to keep an eye out. Laterthanyouthink ( talk) 12:53, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

My edits were based on common knowledge of low-power broadcasting. A low-power station that doesn't have a full-power simulcast or shares spectrum with a full-power station cannot reach the entire market over-the-air and only by cable when possible.

-- 2601:199:4181:E00:6823:3C77:F0E3:C94B ( talk) 22:53, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

( talk page stalker) Just a note but we don't accept "common knowledge" on Wikipedia, everything has to be sourced to reliable sources so that it is verifiable. - Ahunt ( talk) 23:53, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

I'll finally say you that "Virgin Australia is Flag Carrier" is obsolete, because your source was about SIX YEARS OLD SITUATION in 2014( https://www.afr.com/companies/transport/national-carrier-it-s-a-matter-of-definition-20140305-ixnl4), still with wide body and long haul!!! Today in 2021, this airlines company is no longer flag carrier, and doesn't seem to recover as flag carrier, because of losing long haul and wide body aircraft. Moreover, the distance between Qantas are expanded. So, you should mend Australia's section in order to adapt current situation in 2021!!! Social25062 ( talk) 5:53, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Can you please stop with this? There is a source in the article supporting the entry, that's enough evidence for inclusion.-- Jetstreamer  ^Talk 11:45, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Okay Sounds good. Sorry about that. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.23.125.141 ( talk) 04:12, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Please don't use {{ admin help}} to request sanctions. Report the editor to the appropriate noticeboard and provide evidence in the form of diffs. NinjaRobotPirate ( talk) 12:47, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

I redid the edit, tell me if it's good. Aviation160 ( talk) 05:06, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

What is wrong?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Aviation160 ( talk • contribs)

Poor English used.-- Jetstreamer  ^Talk 14:15, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi!

As you can see, I didn't find any reliable sources, but when I search one of the airport, I didn't find Mandarin Airlines operated that flight, even in Kalibo International Airport, Laoag International Airport and Mactan-Cebu International Airport as well.. but, in the flightradar24, I don't see anything Mandarin Airlines operated that route. I search also for the source, but it was last 2014. Even I search this website: https://www.flightconnections.com/route-map-mandarin-airlines-ae. But I guess they terminated flights, as their Embraer E190 will retired in the mid 2021. So, hopefully you understand my situation and that's why I edited it. Thank you! Corner2002 ( talk) 03:28, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Hey, sorry for not including a source in the TAP Portugal update. I also corrected Iberia and Air Europa fleet lists, as they are both quite incorrect at the moment, if you could change these back also it would be great as the way i updated it was 100% correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidking03 ( talk • contribs) 21:03, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

I won't modify anything without the proper sources.-- Jetstreamer  ^Talk 21:20, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Oh really? I find it to be always up to date and reliable.Do you know some other website good for this kind of thing? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidking03 ( talk • contribs) 01:33, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

I'm so sorry, as what I edited, I added a source in List of Mandarin Airlines destinations. Corner2002 ( talk) 17:03, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Hey mate, can you stop changing back all the corrections I did, I did these for a reason: to provide the public with the most up to date information but you keep changing them back?? They are all incorrect again now, and my time was wasted... I just want to help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidking03 ( talk • contribs) 01:23, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Stop making unsourced edits or you will end up blocked.-- Jetstreamer  ^Talk 13:50, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

But I added | to direct in airport pages, like click here: Kuala Lumpur Corner2002 ( talk) 12:14, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Hey, I was just wondering why you think planespotters.net is an unreliable source, as you undid my edit on Arkia and claimed that the source was unreliable. Fire9600 ( talk) 21:53, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

The page uses unofficial sources [1].-- Jetstreamer  ^Talk 01:04, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

It seems that the page doesn't just use unofficial sources, they also use official sources. Fire9600 ( talk) 01:43, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

If it uses just one unnoficial source it cannot be considered reliable.-- Jetstreamer  ^Talk 11:54, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Then I was wondering if you know any websites that do a similar job to planespotters.net but are supposedly reliable. Additionally, on planespotters.net, both the unofficial and official sources are sources most commonly used. Fire9600 ( talk) 21:57, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Would an airline's website be considered reliable? Fire9600 ( talk) 04:51, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Airline's websites are considered primary sources but in the absence of secondary sources they are good enough to be used as references.-- Jetstreamer  ^Talk 11:59, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Then do you think that airfleets.net is a reliable source? Fire9600 ( talk) 16:04, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

What sources does this website use?-- Jetstreamer  ^Talk 18:33, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

I don't think they mention what sources they use, but I'm not sure. [2] Fire9600 ( talk) 19:00, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi,

AR and NZ doesn't have any more a Codeshare Agreement since NZ stop flights to EZE — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sasha2881 ( talk • contribs) 15:56, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

The source in the article does not say that.-- Jetstreamer  ^Talk 21:55, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi,

since NZ stop the Flights to EZE, there is no Codeshare Agreement anymore — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sasha2881 ( talk • contribs) 06:23, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Have you read my previous reply? The source does not say so.-- Jetstreamer  ^Talk 11:52, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

I spend time updating airlines' fleet sizes, airplane seat numbers and types, references, etc. I will make edit summaries at the end, as I didn't know I had to. But yes this change removing the "Boeing 737-500" row from Ariana Afghan Airlines' is correct, constructive, and relevant. If you go to their website, they make no mention of the -500, instead, listing the four aircraft in their fleet with their tail numbers. BMatsudo ( talk) 21:02, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

"Their website" is not used as a source. Your changes were unexplained and unreferenced. Please read WP:VNT.-- Jetstreamer  ^Talk 00:44, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

As you have previously stated above, "Airline's websites are considered primary sources but in the absence of secondary sources they are good enough to be used as references.--Jetstreamer Talk 11:59, 22 February 2021 (UTC)". So why exactly is the fact that the airline's official website no longer states that they have at least one 737-500 not considered a viable, constitutable reason for the change? BMatsudo ( talk) 03:26, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Yes I totally agree what minor edit means. However my edit was simply to alter the current fleet makeup, which are matters of fact and already have sufficient sources on the page. This isn't the first time this has happened it seems people, can't take the time to see that all the edits I make are factually correct and appropriately referenced. Thanks for your time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by VladimirPutinMyYeezy'sOn ( talk • contribs) 16:13, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello @ Jetstreamer:! Can you please help me report this anonymous user as he/she edited an unsourced, adding some airlines in Baikal International Airport and Phnom Penh International Airport. I know it considered as WP:EW but he/she kept edited without adding any reliable sources. But truly, there's no airline operating in that destination unless in the future, but idk why he/she edited. The user is: User:2600:8806:4006:A800:2CF2:8C13:324:F6E8. I also left the talk page. Hope you can blocked him/her. Thanks! Corner2002 ( talk) 13:38, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

@ Corner2002: Requested semi-protection for Baikal International Airport [3]. I'd wait for the other article.-- Jetstreamer  ^Talk 19:41, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello @ Jetstreamer:! Another anonymous user have been editing on Shenyang Taoxian International Airport, I wanted to request a semi protected the page to avoid WP:EW but I don't know how. Hope you can okay with it. Thanks! Corner2002 ( talk) 03:03, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Turkish Airlines no longer serves Münster Osnabrück since late 2017

Source: https://www.wn.de/Muensterland/3041449-Flughafen-Muenster-Osnabrueck-Turkish-Airlines-verlaesst-offenbar-FMO — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheDKlaffke ( talk • contribs)

Thanks for providing the reference. Marked as terminated [4].-- Jetstreamer  ^Talk 14:59, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Hello there Jetstreamer, I have a question about changing the WPAVIATION template from 'Airlines-project=yes' to 'defunct=yes' for airline articles that are no longer operating. Since I have never done this before, can any editor perform this task? I have seen some of the articles like Cathay Dragon, which I have contributed before has now ceased operation and merged with Cathay Pacific, hence, the article and any associated articles (e.g. destination list, accidents and incidents list, if any) should all marked 'defunct=yes', right? If that is correct, I will go ahead and update it, so it is tracked by the correct task group. Aviator006 ( talk) 13:25, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

I guess the change you propose is correct.-- Jetstreamer  ^Talk 14:57, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Thank you! :) Aviator006 ( talk) 18:00, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Hello @ Jetstreamer:! I have a major changes of Virgin Atlantic in the fleet section. I did remove the #redirect and added the main article to directly view or I transferred to the Virgin Atlantic fleet. Am I did something wrong or no? Thanks in advance! Cornerstone2.0 ( talk) 15:24, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

Everything seems to be ok.-- Jetstreamer  ^Talk 19:18, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

Hello @ Jetstreamer:! I have a problem (or ask). About Emirates fleet, they order Boeing 777-9, but someone edited and the reason why because Boeing 777X does not specify a variant. Is this true? Cornerstone2.0 ( talk) 14:24, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

The coresponding references should be consulted.-- Jetstreamer  ^Talk 19:03, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

Hello there! Can I ask if maybe I can remove some operated by in some other airport Wikipedia pages? Hope you agree! Thanks! Cornerstone2.0 ( talk) 10:33, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

Hey bud, I think you might need to get your eyes checked. I transferred the edits to Qantas fleet to a box, to avoid the WP:GALLERY. Sorry you got misled, but I've removed the galleries as requested :). Sorry again, but this is not the first time a user has mentioned me to follow WP:NOTAGALLERY. In honesty, does it matter if we just deviate a bit. I did indeed delete these galleries as it had a dedicated section from which they can be hosted on Commons, yes but in times, such as this article for example a gallery is ok. The WP:NOTAGALLERY in my view implies articles like this one -- EurovisionNim (talk to me) (see my edits) 10:46, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Started a thread at WT:AIRLINE.-- Jetstreamer  ^Talk 16:03, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Replied. But I didn't know that was not allowed. When you complained you did not want a gallery, I thought a table would work. Remember, this is not my usual area of editing so please be mindful if I haven't got it right. If you want, maybe a user can advise me on the best approach. A topic (can't mentioned due to my tban) had a certain policy which made users on that one follow the photo guidelines. If there is a formal guideline/essay, I am happy to follow but i thought it was a neater layout :) -- EurovisionNim (talk to me) (see my edits) 16:08, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

How is this person even allowed to be a moderator?

Dude, you removed my edit of the Aeroflot page from "flight 821 crashed due to pilot error" to "engine failure." What?? Was it so hard for you to read the linked Wikipedia article? The pilots were DRUNK!

Sure enough, the wording is now back to what it's supposed to be.

Thanks for nothing?.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.206.217.102 ( talk • contribs)

I don't know what are you talking about.-- Jetstreamer  ^Talk 12:02, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Aeroflot_accidents_and_incidents&diff=next&oldid=887853620— Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.206.217.102 ( talk • contribs)

Dates back to 2019.-- Jetstreamer  ^Talk 12:11, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Hi Jetstreamer! let me be clear, just understand because it seems hard for me to ask you. That is, on the airport pages, Airlines and Destinations section like Taoyuan International Airport.. some of the airlines have capital letters like EVA Air, LOT Polish Airlines, can they be first by alphabetical order, for example: EVA Air, Emirates, Ethiopian Airlines Etihad Airways and others. Sorry if my grammar is wrong but please understand me. Thanks! Cornerstone2.0 ( talk) 07:50, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

The alphabetical order is insensitive to capital letters.-- Jetstreamer  ^Talk 11:56, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Oh.. okay, I get it. Thanks for your response! :)) Cornerstone2.0 ( talk) 08:30, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Thank you very much to the Birthday Comittee in general and to Captain Raju in particular.-- Jetstreamer  ^Talk 16:18, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

Hey there Jetstreamer! Can I ask to verify, since Qatar Airways joined Oneworld alliance on 2013, it mentioned the first Persian gulf carrier to join the three major of airline alliances, but when I search in the Airline alliances wiki page, it said that Saudia joined on 2012 in SkyTeam alliance. Since Saudi Arabia is a part of Persian gulf, is it ok to change on Qatar Airways page the second Persian gulf carrier to join the three major of airline alliances instead of first? Cornerstone2.0 ( talk) 06:04, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Sources in the article say otherwise. You cannot use Wikipedia as a source.-- Jetstreamer  ^Talk 20:47, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Hello @ Jetstreamer:! This anonymous user have been disruptive edit behavior on List of Brussels Airlines destinations with unsourced and unexplained edits. From this [5] to this [6]. If you do, kindly revert this edit and warned, I warned this user but they remove it [7]. Hope you can deal with this anonymous user! Thanks! Cornerstone2.0 ( talk) 12:27, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

in the picture articles what kind of edit summary should I put in? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mohamed mfuu ( talk • contribs)

Something that describes your edits.-- Jetstreamer  ^Talk 13:38, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

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Hello Jetstreamer! I kinda bit curious here because last October 23 I edited this page which is Lufthansa fleet and the reason is this (click here: [8]). But then I check earlier, this IP address user undid my edit ( [9]) as per guidelines. I mean, I check the guidelines on this [10] and I didn't see any of these with pictures move any up or down. Am I doing something wrong or no? Thanks for your advance response! Cornerstone2.0 ( talk) 07:27, 30 October 2021 (UTC)

No guidelines at all on this particular issue but the images definitely look better below the table.-- Jetstreamer  ^Talk 15:30, 30 October 2021 (UTC)

Jetstreamer well I got your point :)) thanks for your kind response! Cornerstone2.0 ( talk) 16:02, 30 October 2021 (UTC)

THE REASON THAT HAPPENED WAS LOOKING THRU THE FLEETS OF UZBEKISTAN AIRWAYS ON OTHER SITE THAT SEEMS TO BE UPDTED BUT HERE IN WIKI IS NOT UPDATED SO I TRIED TO UPDATE HERE ON WIKI WIKIPEDIA NEEDS TO BE MORE UPDATED ON AIRLINE FLEETS — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luis3019 ( talk • contribs) 22:10, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

Read WP:VERIFY.-- Jetstreamer  ^Talk 22:49, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

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The change i recently made on indigo was with Proof...kochi is actually an hub of indigo airlines..they operate both direct international/regional flights to and from kochi.... a flight that doesn't consider a airport as it's hub would never operate direct flights hope you understood and allow me to make changes. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.84.89.104 ( talk)

You need to provide reliable sources.-- Jetstreamer  ^Talk 18:34, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello there @ Jetstreamer:! Just wanna ask if should I remove the links in Airline and Destinations section at Ninoy Aquino International Airport wiki page and other airport pages? Just wanna have some clean up.. Cornerstone2.0 ( talk) 17:54, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

What links?-- Jetstreamer  ^Talk 19:23, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

I mean, all of the sources that has been added? In Airlines and destinations section.. Cornerstone2.0 ( talk) 03:15, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

Removing references is in general not a good move.-- Jetstreamer  ^Talk 11:25, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

oh okay then.. thanks! Cornerstone2.0 ( talk) 13:09, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

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Hi, sorry I overlooked the MoU part of the Qatar 737 order. But the Boeing news release of yesterday 31st also have the following line: "As part of today's agreement, Qatar Airways will convert 20 of its 60 777X family orders to the 777-8 Freighter." I read this as being only 40 777X orders left. The final proof will be when Boeing releases their O&D January numbers next Tuesday. ^[1] Rygjar ( talk) 15:13, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Let's just wait.-- Jetstreamer  ^Talk 18:02, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

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Hi Jetstreamer, the final report mentions 55 passengers and 61 total fatalities. That's why i changed the passenger and fatality count. Could this revert be reverted? 223.229.228.97 ( talk) 11:54, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

It says so. Proceed.-- Jetstreamer  ^Talk 19:06, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Source and this time extreme precise in all 3 companies and leave me in peace ... Use a little bit the time you spend with you men and do it https://www.flightradar24.com/blog/aeroflot-cancels-international-flights/ -- 90.186.249.178 ( talk) 22:32, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

* This is why I probably would have simply responded to 90.186.249.178 on the talk page, rather than just removing their posting. It was a good faith question and this is a reasonable follow up from them. Pabsoluterince ( talk) 00:19, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

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in the first news there is information of a press release given by the company where it specifies the date, so don't lie and say that there's no information about the date because is false. 2001:1388:5320:81D5:951:A375:5530:74D0 ( talk) 01:08, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Read WP:VERIFY and stop leaving me messages accusing me of falsing information. You never included the press release you mention in any article. I'm not going to search on the internet for anything you claim it exists but is not included by you in any article. I'm not going to do your work for you. Do not edit Wikipedia if you are not prepared to follow the basic policy.-- Jetstreamer  ^Talk 14:38, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

I read a lot of claims about your work as a moderator 2001:1388:5320:95A6:9948:BE64:A8FD:C50C ( talk) 16:48, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

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Pls search on google to know kuwait airways join which alliance. When I search on google I saw star alliance. 94.129.70.105 ( talk) 05:47, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

Read WP:BURDEN.-- Jetstreamer  ^Talk 14:58, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

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( t · c) buidhe 20:25, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Just a heads up, to add the site to WP:RSPSS, since it's unreliable. It's impossible for someone to know otherwise. Also, is FlightRadar24 reliable? You can see new planes flying actual commercial routes there so it kinda verifies the existence of them.

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LATAM ECUADOR is going to resume flights between Quito and Buenos Aires, check LATAM's page. 2001:1388:5320:AE7C:51BB:6134:875F:22BB ( talk) 03:36, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

I removed an addition that included a source not supporting the resumption date.-- Jetstreamer  ^Talk 11:52, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

Why do not you correct information if you know the flight appears in the LATAM' page? what a lazy person who only dedicates himself to deleting and does not provide any information despite of knowing that flights exists. 181.67.2.184 ( talk) 13:00, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

WP:BURDEN.-- Jetstreamer  ^Talk 01:12, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

Hey there Jetstreamer! The same IP anonymous user still adding LATAM Ecuador at Ministro Pistarini International Airport with uh, booking engines as source. I tried to reverted to removed but eventually they added it back. I don't even know what to do since I think it will be considered as edit war if I'll remove it again. Cornerstone2.0 ( talk) 01:53, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

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Hi there, JS. You may want to join the current discussion on just this topic! - Ahunt ( talk) 01:20, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

Hi Jetstreamer, not sure why you changed the A300-600 fleet exit date from the Kuwait airways back to a wrong date. I personally flew onboard one of those aircraft in January 2015 and there are plenty pictures available of these aircraft taken in 2015 and the previous years. Take a look at a proper source for airline fleet histories, like planespotters.net and you'll see, that 9K-AMA to AME left the fleet in November and December 2015. I can deduct from your personal page that you are interested in Aviation, not sure if you work in the industry, I personally have a Masters degree in Aeronautical engineering and work for large airline group. Maxi-Air ( talk) 14:36, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

Planespotters is not a reliable source, and personal experiences do not count as sources. However, the exit date you mention is correct according to planespotters, which is used as a source in the article.-- Jetstreamer  ^Talk 12:29, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

I'm not sure you are familiar with the backgrounds, but Planespotters.net is by far the most accurate publicly available fleet website there is. Airfleets is far less reliable in comparison. I know personal experiences don't count as a source, but that's what made this mistake painfully obvious to me. Maxi-Air ( talk) 12:12, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

( talk page stalker) Planespotters.net falls under WP:SPS and is not considered a reliable source. - Ahunt ( talk) 13:08, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

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Yea sorry man. Was just trying to make some updates. Alot of 767's on the list are not currently operational and have been retired. I was using respective airline websites , The PlanSpotter website and various other sources like flightradar24 and flight aware to try and verify my info. Even the numbers there do not correlate with those of each individual airline wiki page. Please look into that. Some other airlines are disfunct so please look into that as well and update the page. I was planning to citations and references once finish the list thou. Sermons0499 ( talk) 16:49, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Read WP:VERIFY.-- Jetstreamer  ^Talk 11:42, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

Hey, you changed the number of operated ATR 72 in the Indigo article from 34 to 29, but didn't change the amount of planes on order.

https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=IndiGo&diff=prev&oldid=1059091311

The number of ATR 72 that are operated and still on order should sum up to 50, right? In order to equal this reference: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-05-09/indigo-orders-50-atr-turboprops-in-push-to-serve-indian-regions WikiPate ( talk) 11:45, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

The diff is almost one year old. The article has been updated many times since then.-- Jetstreamer  ^Talk 20:31, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

I found now a reference: The entire order is still 50. I will adjust it in the article. WikiPate ( talk) 08:50, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

Because of that fact i am going to revert it, if you have a better source and have it not in 2012 but more like 2020 or 2021 that will be much appreciated that outdated numbers 9 years ago. Onengsevia ( talk) 16:15, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

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( t · c) buidhe 21:16, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Hey.

Why did you remove this fact?

In the official Orders and Deliveries document, just sort by A321neos operated. Then Wizzair including subsidiaries is first and Indigo second. WikiPate ( talk) 05:28, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

You're right about sorting but I see it is the largest operator with 68 aircraft, Wizzair is behind with 65.-- Jetstreamer  ^Talk 19:15, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

In the document is another entry for Wizz Air Abu Dhabi with 4 aircraft. So Wizz Air including subsidiaries has one aircraft more than Indigo. WikiPate ( talk) 20:04, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

Actually the Airbus document shows also cargo aircraft. For example it shows the A330 freighter of WizzAir.

In the same way the document also shows the A321P2F aircraft. Airbus simply does not differentiate between A321 and A321P2F.

So the reference in the IndiGo article for the amount of A321P2F is correct. WikiPate ( talk) 20:09, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

There is a reason behind giving every number a reference in the Fleet table of ordered aircraft and aircraft in service in the IndiGo article. (You call it redundant referencing)

It simply reduces the frequent false editing and vandalism of these numbers.

In this way the readers understand that there is a reference behind each of these numbers. It leads to less people just copying numbers from planespotters or elsewhere. WikiPate ( talk) 20:23, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

Regarding your revert in the IndiGo article "Unexplained changes. The general source supports the entire table unless otherwise stated."

I explained the changes in the subsequent edit.

And as I wrote you before: Referencing all numbers in the Fleet table regarding the number of operated and ordered aircraft prevents vandalism and false editing.

Why don't you discuss that topic here? WikiPate ( talk) 13:16, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

The topic should be discussed at the article's talk page, not here. Few people monitor my talk page.-- Jetstreamer  ^Talk 14:23, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

A related source is not per definition unreliable, as you claimed. However, it should be replaced by an independent source. There is also no reason to remove the maintenance templates without solving the issues. The Banner  talk 12:08, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

You are right. I did not read the changes carefully and the maintenance templates were properly added.-- Jetstreamer  ^Talk 12:09, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

The removed content is redundant, it should not be placed in the heading of the page dedicated to TAP but on its history dedicated section. You removed relevant information that was added based on the Department of Transportation of US, and previously, from the Portuguese Court of Audits. Indeed, as has become the norm. Diogo sfreitas ( talk) 11:57, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

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Happy New Year for you too!-- Jetstreamer  ^Talk 11:49, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

Isn't it an award (referring to [11])? See [12], [13], [14], [15], etc. Compusolus ( talk) 12:17, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

No, it is not. AirlineRatings.com is just a rating website.-- Jetstreamer  ^Talk 15:25, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

For this revert: I think that the two incidents are notable, compare with Air France accidents and incidents, there are many "incidents" similar to MH134 and MH2664 that goes to the media and it may notable, especially the MH134 incident. I really doubt about this revert. I know about WP:WTAF, and I should not link Malaysia Airlines Flight 134. HaydenWong ( talk) 06:46, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

Please read WP:AIRCRASH for the criteria of inclusion.-- Jetstreamer  ^Talk 12:53, 11 January 2023 (UTC)