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Is there some missing page history at Talk:MagSafe ( | article | history | links | watch | logs)? The article was created over ten years ago, but the talk page shows it was created only last year? Wondering if with all the page moves the talk page history got lost somewhere? — Locke Cole • t • c 19:28, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

@ Locke Cole: The talk page's old history has been moved to an archive. GeoffreyT2000 ( talk) 03:22, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Ahhh, I didn't realize people still did page move archives =) Thanks! — Locke Cole • t • c 17:50, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

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( t · c) buidhe 20:25, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Hello again,

On June 23rd, I added a section to your talk page regarding my edits to (and creation of) the page for 'Elijah Green', an upcoming MLB prospect in this year's MLB draft. I asked you multiple questions and got no response. I will ask again, why you chose to completely delete the page and revert the edits, to the point where searching "Elijah Green" now reverts to 'Pumpsie Green'. I made the case that Pumpsie Green goes by his nickname and is not known by his birth name of "Elijah". The prospect is different, and is known as "Elijah Green".

Anyways, I will not repeat what I said before (you can go look at it), and make my case again. I would, however, like clarification on why you made the moves you did, as I disagree that they should have been made. Debartolo2917 ( talk) 01:36, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

@ Debartolo2917: The Elijah Green article you created over the redirect was draftified by Slywriter. I have moved the draft back to mainspace. GeoffreyT2000 ( talk) 02:03, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Indeed I did and unsure how articles from a scouting company and a press release meet WP:GNG but GeoffreyT2000 sees something there that I am missing. Slywriter ( talk) 02:07, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

The MLB draft occurs July 17th, and it is likely he will get drafted early, with more articles to come in the lead up. I will continue to add as things pop up. Debartolo2917 ( talk) 02:10, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Which is the definition of WP:TOOSOON with some WP:CRYSTALBALL as well. Hence, why it should have remained a draft until actual coverage existed. Alas, what's done is done - Bigger cleanup items to worry about then someone likely to become notable in a few weeks Slywriter ( talk) 02:14, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Thank you! I appreciate the very quick reply. Debartolo2917 ( talk) 02:09, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

@ Debartolo2917 and Slywriter: I have started an AfD at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Elijah Green. GeoffreyT2000 ( talk) 14:11, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

I'm a little unfamiliar with AfD requests... does this revert it to a draft, and will get republished when notability increases, or does it outright delete the article? Debartolo2917 ( talk) 15:02, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

No consensus, Keep, Delete, Draftify are the most likely outcomes. I would find delete to be a surprising outcome as you are around to improve article and notability isnt a lost cause but should it happen, WP:REFUND to userspace would be an option once notability improved. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Slywriter ( talk • contribs) 15:40, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

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Backlog status

After the last newsletter (No.28, June 2022), the backlog declined another 1,000 to 13,000 in the last week of June. Then the July backlog drive began, during which 9,900 articles were reviewed and the backlog fell by 4,500 to just under 8,500 (these numbers illustrate how many new articles regularly flow into the queue). Thanks go to the coordinators Buidhe and Zippybonzo, as well as all the nearly 100 participants. Congratulations to Dr vulpes who led with 880 points. See this page for further details.

Unfortunately, most of the decline happened in the first half of the month, and the backlog has already risen to 9,600. Understandably, it seems many backlog drive participants are taking a break from reviewing and unfortunately, we are not even keeping up with the inflow let alone driving it lower. We need the other 600 reviewers to do more! Please try to do at least one a day.

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An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Johnny Ware and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 August 12#Johnny Ware until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. Qwerfjkl talk 21:11, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

I have replied to the RfD. Thanks for the nomination! GeoffreyT2000 ( talk) 18:44, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

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( t · c) buidhe 21:16, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

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I thought NewPipe was scheduled for deletion, but it was actually YouTube API. Thanks for fixing that. – Daveout (talk) 04:21, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

Hello, GeoffreyT2000. Thank you for your work on List of animation studios owned by Comcast NBCUniversal. User:Kudpung, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:

At first look, it seems as if this list articke is undersourced.I'm unreviewing this temporarily until it has been checked by the coordinators.

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Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 05:12, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Hello GTrang,

Much has happened since the last newsletter over two months ago. The open letter finished with 444 signatures. The letter was sent to several dozen people at the WMF, and we have heard that it is being discussed but there has been no official reply. A related article appears in the current issue of The Signpost. If you haven't seen it, you should, including the readers' comment section.

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Backlog:

Saving the best for last: From a July low of 8,500, the backlog climbed back to 11,000 in August and then reversed in September dropping to below 6,000 and continued falling with the October backlog drive to under 1,000, a level not seen in over four years. Keep in mind that there are 2,000 new articles every week, so the number of reviews is far higher than the backlog reduction. To keep the backlog under a thousand, we have to keep reviewing at about half the recent rate!

Hello @ GeoffreyT2000 I hope your're doing well. I have requested redirect deletion, G6 (Make way for move) so that I can work on an article. I assume in good faith that I didn't do anything wrong. Thanks, stay safe. C1K98V ^{( 💬 ✒️ 📂)} 05:16, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

The page to be moved there was redlinked. There is no existing page to be moved there, so the G6 tag makes no sense. GeoffreyT2000 ( talk) 05:36, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

@ GeoffreyT2000 I believe my csd tagging is wrong. I'm sorry. Please allow me to fix for the last time in good faith. Thank you C1K98V ^{( 💬 ✒️ 📂)} 05:38, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

@ GeoffreyT2000 please spare a moment and have a look and guide me. I even added a description why I want the redirected to be deleted. Hope that the admins to proceed further. Thank you. C1K98V ^{( 💬 ✒️ 📂)} 05:42, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

A few days ago, new page patrollers got the backlog to zero. Due to the unprecedented success of the backlog drive, it will be ending early—at the end of 24 October, or in approximately two hours.

Barnstars will be awarded as soon as the coords can tally the results. Streak awards will be allocated based on the first three weeks of the drive, with the last three days being counted as part of week three.

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		This award is given to GTrang for collecting more than 150 points per week doing reviews, in the October NPP backlog reduction drive. Thank you for your contributions Zippybonzo | Talk (he|him) 10:05, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

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