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Discontent Content Issue #6 Welcome, subscribers, to the sixth Discontent Content newsletter! Discontent Content is a newsletter aiming to collate and improve Wikipedia articles in need of more eyes and hands to get them in shape. Its unique trimodal structure allows editors to work where they feel comfortable -- with stubs and starts needing to be brought to standard, mid-quality articles with Good or Featured potential, or quality-assessed articles needing help to maintain their status. Category 1 Articles in this category are those that need to be brought up to a minimum quality standard. Some will be stubs; others will be longer articles that nonetheless have significant concerns putting them far below B- or C-class adequacy. This issue's Category 1 articles are: Floating match on card: This famous magic trick is a microstub with an empty section and no meaningful discussion of its methods or effects. Some useful information is available on the talk page. Erotic horror: A significant literary (or, well...look, you know) genre with significant academic and critical coverage, which you wouldn't know from reading its three-sentence article. Black ribbon: Currently in poor shape, with unnecessary lists attracting spurious examples, this article nonetheless has potential to cover a coherent topic on a sensitive subject. Category 2 Articles in this category, while in better current shape than Category 1, are still missing something. They have the potential to be truly high-quality content, and may have been at one point. With work, they can be brought up to dizzying heights. This issue's Category 2 articles are: Violin: This twice-candidate at GAN has good bones, but suffers from expanses of uncited content (and indeed expanses of "people slapping CN tags on literally every sentence"). Much of this information should be citable, and potential exists for this article to stand tall amongst other core music articles. Art museum: Though this looks a little underrated as a soi-disant "Start", it's nonetheless an important cultural article with significant improvement potential. This was a former candidate for the Team-B-Vital campaign ran by members of the Wikimedia Discord to bring Vital Articles to B-class status, and while not selected, it has strong potential for anyone interested in working on it. Grocery store: Daily life has always been one of Wikipedia's coverage gaps. Though this topic is something virtually anyone deals with on a regular basis, the article struggles with cleanup tags, sandwiching, and the weird fear of prose that drives people to put everything they can in a list. With hundreds of views a day, readers deserve an article with a stronger core. Category 3 Articles in this category have been assessed through a content review process in the past, but may require work to be brought up to current GA/FA standard. Editors can help bring them to a level where the star or plus near their names can once again shine. This issue's Category 3 articles are: Slackers CDs and Games: This GA hasn't had significant content edits since 2008. As much of its content references then-recent controversies, it needs a good look for updating. Potential superpowers: GA with a multiple issues template, with concerns of outdated information, lack of citations, and potential OR. Alzheimer's disease: This major medical FA is at FAR due to outdated information, an unfortunately common scourge of medical articles over time. Such an important article needs people willing to get it in good shape. Letter from the Editor After my prior thoughts on GA sweeps and their viability, work is beginning to break down what parts of the backlog can be tackled. Planning is beginning at User:Vaticidalprophet/GA reform and its talk; feel free to give your opinion, participate in current GARs, and assess articles. The current plan is to look at GAs with outstanding cleanup tags as our first priority. Sorry for the delay this time around -- I've been having A Month healthwise. I expect to maintain this at an approximately monthly schedule and will try not to let it slip further. I'm enthused by the work going on at GAR lately and hope to work something excellent out of it. Vaticidal prophet 01:54, 26 July 2021 (UTC) You have received this newsletter because you opted into the Discontent Content mailing list. To opt out from future newsletters, go to Wikipedia:Discontent Content/mailing list and remove your talk page.

How to edit -- Rj binay ( talk) 13:46, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

@ Rj binay: hello! I think Help:Editing might be able to help you. Do you have any particular questions? Elli ( talk | contribs) 14:51, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

I was looking at the article for Medicaid, and I saw that the map showing states who have expanded Medicaid is outdated. The Missouri Supreme Court unanimously ruled that the state must expand Medicaid. I tried changing the picture myself, but I couldn't figure out how to do it. Would you mind doing it for me? Scorpions13256 ( talk) 19:29, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

Scorpions13256 it looks like you did it successfully, so it's probably just a caching issue on your end. Clear your cache and reload and it should be fine. Elli ( talk | contribs) 19:36, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

Hi, I saw that you closed this transfer request after a single contrary opinion (even outside the maximum time limit). I believe that the current name of that page is objectively wrong and that some opinions expressed before have not taken into account the real name of that party, nor the name used by the sources. So I asked for a new request to move and to date I have received only one opinion in favor of the move. The situation has stalled, so I have received the suggestion to start a move review. First I must therefore contact the closer of the first procedure, which is you. I'm not very familiar with this procedure, but I think it closed a little quickly. What should I do in this case? -- Scia Della Cometa ( talk) 19:58, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Comment – As the nominator had provided valid reasoning as well as reliable sources and was unopposed, I initially intended to close the nominator’s second RM as 'moved'. But upon seeing that a clone RM, not a month earlier, had an objection and was closed as ‘not moved’, I abstained. However, I do agree with the nominator that your close was a bit premature (8 days following the nomination and only 1 day following the latest engagement) and, without offense, a single objection and a single supporting vote (the nomination) doesn't constitute a "consensus to not move". So I counseled the nominator to contact you (/initiate a WP:MR). Colonestarrice ( talk) 20:34, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

@ Scia Della Cometa and Colonestarrice: hi, thanks for both of your comments. I tend to close low-participation RMs where all the comments are the same way to get the backlog down - if you had replied to the comment there I likely would've relisted. If you asked me to undo my close at the time, I would've - the line between closing and relisting is often not clear. Anyway, since you've started another RM, taking the first one to move review now doesn't make sense - just wait for your second RM to be closed. I'd suggest advertising this RM neutrally to relevant wikiprojects to get more comments and a clearer consensus. Please feel free to ask if you have further questions/concerns! Elli ( talk | contribs) 21:06, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Ok, before we make this anymore complicated than necessary: @ Andrewa: do you have any ongoing objections? If not, I will close this RM as 'moved'. Colonestarrice ( talk) 21:44, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Unfortunately I had not had time to respond to the user's contrary opinion and I had not asked you to undo your closure because I am not familiar with the procedures of en.wikipedia. Anyway I don't know how to advertise this RM. In the meantime, however, let's await the opinion of the other user. -- Scia Della Cometa ( talk) 21:48, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Scia Della Cometa no worries! If you have any other questions don't hesitate to ask. Elli ( talk | contribs) 23:22, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for your help on the page I created for Phratora tibialis! I worked on the main Phratora page and I did a lot of editing of the pages for Phratora vitellinae and Phratora laticollis. I even added a bit of info and a picture to the Phratora purpurea page. The picture there was taken in Kalamazoo, where I found those beetles in 1991 and where I grew up. I wonder, how could I get the pages that I edited reviewed? It seems like new pages get noticed quickly, but existing ones that are edited aren't noticed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NCalBeetleGuy ( talk • contribs) 03:10, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

@ NCalBeetleGuy: awesome, thanks for all of your improvements. As for reviewed - new page patrol - which is what I do - only applies to new pages. If you'd like the ratings of pages you've edited updated on their talkpage, you can just do that yourself. If you'd like a more formal review process, you might want to look at either requesting a peer review, or nominating it for good article status, both of which involve review processes of your articles. Does that help? Elli ( talk | contribs) 03:29, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

yes, it helps a lot! As you can see, I am a bit of a Wikipedia novice. Your info is very helpful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NCalBeetleGuy ( talk • contribs) 19:43, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

@ NCalBeetleGuy: glad I can help! One more thing - I'd advice you look at WP:TALKREPLY - it helps for collaboration to indent and sign your comments. ty! Elli ( talk | contribs) 05:33, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

@ Elli:Thanks! I wondered how to do that.

thanks ig Isabelle0934 ( talk) 04:40, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

@ Isabelle0934: hope you don't mind - I tend to review every userpage I come across that's unreviewed. Nominally useful at least :P Elli ( talk | contribs) 04:44, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

@ Elli: lmao it’s okay thank you Isabelle0934 ( talk) 04:46, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

A tag has been placed on Category:2020 Summer Olympics rugby sevens game reference templates indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 15:20, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Elli,

This has been tagged as an empty category. If, over the next 7 days, it is no longer empty, the tag will be removed. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 15:21, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Hi Elli, hope you had a wonderful vacation. And now that you're back can you help me by creating a template that I can put in sections such as Alabama's 1st congressional district#Voting, which reads as "The district may have undergone boundary changes due to redistricting, and may not be reflective of the district's current geographical position." or something else that conveys the core message. I came across confused people, who are confused if the results are calculated on the basis of current map or just the results of the older map. Basically, the template must be something that works on mobile version too, since a lot of templates don't work there. I wanted to make something that could look similar to the {{ See also}} template, on mobile devices. But I couldn't. Please make one if you know how to. Thanks! --- CX Zoom(^he/_him) ( ^{let's talk}| _contribs) 16:54, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

@ CX Zoom: sure - does {{ see also}} not work on mobile devices? I thought it did...

let me know because whether or not it does matters a bit (as to how I would code the template on the back-end). Elli ( talk | contribs) 00:20, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

@ Elli: {{ See also}} works perfectly on mobile devices, that's why something similar should work. It's just that I was a bit overwhelmed by it's code, so I concluded that the work will be better done by experienced template editors. --- CX Zoom(^he/_him) ( ^{let's talk}| _contribs) 03:53, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Hello Elli. Just an FYI, when you move pages like 2021 Alberta referendum following an RM, you should also change any links to the page on templates that appear on that article (i.e. in this case {{ AlbertaElections}}) – see Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions#Sidebars and navbars. Cheers, Number 5 7 11:39, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

@ Number 57: ah, sorry, I usually tend to do that but I must've forgotten this time. Thanks for the message! Elli ( talk | contribs) 12:19, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

Good morning please help me with money -- Okan Abraham ayemere ( talk) 11:52, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

hello ! how can add about salman in baghan pedia -- Nisha raj khatoon ( talk) 14:01, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

— Maile ( talk) 12:02, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

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Hi Elli, Thanks for reaching out. Have question about creating a new Sandbox, and then locating after creation. I have created a new one, but now cannot find it. Thanks for any guidance Suzanne -- Smela07 ( talk) 18:01, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

@ Smela07: hi, it looks like you created User:Smela07/sandbox. If you want to see recent edits you've made (which would include page creations) you can go to Special:Contributions/Smela07 to find them. Elli ( talk | contribs) 18:04, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Elli ( talk · contribs) Hi, I'm not sure I'm using the Talk page correctly, but thank you for your response. Seems I didn't create a new Sandbox page after all then...Still learning! Thx again. Smela07 ( talk) 19:51, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

@ Smela07: you seem to be getting the hang of it - WP:TALKREPLY might help for some of the details (particularly how indentation works). Also, for pinging a user, {{ u}} or {{ re}} is preferable to copying their signature. Other than that, it seems like you've got it. If you have any further questions, feel free to let me know! Elli ( talk | contribs) 20:10, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Recently you are redirected my article History of Salem, Tamil Nadu to the article Salem, Tamil Nadu, can I recreate the article with my own words, I want your permission to create. Thank you! Dhaneesh 💙 Ram 08:12, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

@ Ram Dhaneesh: yes, you can create the article - but it must be entirely in your own words. This means no copyright violations or close paraphrasing - it must be an entirely original summary. Elli ( talk | contribs) 08:16, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

@ Elli: Thank you. Dhaneesh 💙 Ram 08:28, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

@ Ram Dhaneesh: of course - feel free to ask me if you have any further questions! Elli ( talk | contribs) 08:19, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

Cwmhiraeth ( talk) 12:02, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

Hog Farm _Talk 04:08, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

Who are my 42 talkpage stalkers? Feel free to drop a reply or just click the "thank" button on this edit if you want to be less conspicuous, I'm just very curious. Thanks all (and thanks for watching :3)! Elli ( talk | contribs) 01:28, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

you stalk me i stalk you, is this how QPQ works? Sennecaster ( Chat) 23:52, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

@ Sennecaster: sure >:D Elli ( talk | contribs) 00:33, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your final work on Ardfern, it was appreciated especially as the case winded down. I look forward to seeing you here again. Every bit that you do helps. Sennecaster ( Chat) 12:29, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

hi -- Gwhitlow ( talk) 09:32, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

@ Gwhitlow: hi! Do you have any questions about how to use/help with Wikipedia? Elli ( talk | contribs) 15:31, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Question from Gwhitlow on User talk:Elli (06:40, 1 September 2021)

I have an article to submit, already edited and submitted to Wikipedia editors, but I have no idea if I submitted it properly. Each time I check, it still requests to submit for review (blue box), which I thought I had already done. It's all of two paragraphs. -- Gwhitlow ( talk) 06:40, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

@ Gwhitlow: you need to press the "submit" button, then scroll down and press the blue "Publish changes" button. When you do that, the draft will be submitted for review.

Additionally, looking at your draft, it likely won't get accepted as you have not cited any sources. It's necessary to cite sources so all content in Wikipedia is verifiable. Can I recommend that you check out Wikipedia:Citing sources for information on the policy, and Help:Referencing for beginners to get you started? If you need any help with that, I can assist, of course. Elli ( talk | contribs) 07:03, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Question from Gwhitlow on Draft:Gordon H. Whitlow (08:04, 1 September 2021)

Thank you, Elli. A bit confused, because when I do submit for review, the next thing I see is a large template page with many down arrows inside but none of my text. Below this it has the blue box "Publish changes". Now, I had received two acknowledgments ("Your notices") stating I had made my first edit and the other welcoming me to Wikipedia, so perhaps it is already under review. As for citations, there are several available, including existing Wiki pages created by others. -- Gwhitlow ( talk) 08:04, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

@ Gwhitlow: the draft isn't submitted for review yet. You need to actually click "Publish changes", or else it won't be submitted. The UI for this isn't the best, but your draft will still be there, even though it doesn't show up in the box - just click the publish button and you'll see.

As for sources, you need to edit your draft to include them. I'd recommend doing that before submitting for review, but it's up to you. Elli ( talk | contribs) 08:06, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Question from Gwhitlow on User talk:Elli (08:09, 1 September 2021)

Thanks. Do I place the sources as URLs directly in the Publish box? I can easily do that. -- Gwhitlow ( talk) 08:09, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

@ Gwhitlow: no - they go along with the article text. I strongly recommend reading Help:Referencing for beginners, it should be able to help you. Click the edit button on your draft, then click the "Cite" button from the toolbar, pick the type of citation you want, fill in the details, then add it. Save the page by pressing "publish changes". Elli ( talk | contribs) 08:12, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Question from Gwhitlow on Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Layout (08:42, 1 September 2021)

I have added 6 references. After selecting "Publish changes", I received the following message: Draft article not currently submitted for review. This is a draft Articles for creation (AfC) submission. It is not currently pending review.", and another blue box below to "Submit the draft for review". Do I need to again submit for review? -- Gwhitlow ( talk) 08:42, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

@ Gwhitlow: it looks like you eventually submitted it and it was declined - you need to improve the sources. significant coverage in reliable sources is what's necessary to show notability. Elli ( talk | contribs) 12:46, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Question from Gwhitlow on User talk:Elli (14:30, 1 September 2021)

I attempted to strengthen it with some published articles, etc., but I think I will need to change some of the citations to footnotes, as I think Fade was suggesting. -- Gwhitlow ( talk) 14:30, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

@ Gwhitlow: yes, I'd recommend that. Elli ( talk | contribs) 14:36, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

I do not know how to use Lua, so this is the next best thing. I am hoping I could integrate this into {{ Canada NTS Map Sheet}}, to automatically add names to NTS map sheet references. --   Denelson 83  05:39, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

@ Denelson83: ah, thanks for the info. Would you like me to try to help with that? Elli ( talk | contribs) 05:41, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

Give it a try. I am hoping WikiProject Canada could also use this, as a possible source of ideas for new articles. I have noticed a ton of those names are red links. --   Denelson 83  05:43, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

@ Denelson83: do you think all of these are notable? Still unsure exactly how this site works, though it looks interesting. Elli ( talk | contribs) 05:46, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

I am not sure. Maybe some of them are. --   Denelson 83  05:47, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

Sorry to butt in I just wanted to note that the relevant guideline is WP:GEOLAND: "Named natural features are often notable, provided information beyond statistics and coordinates is known to exist. This includes mountains, lakes, streams, islands, etc. The number of known sources should be considered to ensure there is enough verifiable content for an encyclopedic article." This is a form of WP:GNG. Hope this helps. Volcano guy 01:34, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

( Volcanoguy fyi, I don't mind anyone commenting here, please feel free!) Elli ( talk | contribs) 01:49, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

I do not know how to use Lua, so this is the next best thing. I am hoping I could integrate this into {{ Canada NTS Map Sheet}}, to automatically add names to NTS map sheet references. --   Denelson 83  05:39, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

@ Denelson83: ah, thanks for the info. Would you like me to try to help with that? Elli ( talk | contribs) 05:41, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

Give it a try. I am hoping WikiProject Canada could also use this, as a possible source of ideas for new articles. I have noticed a ton of those names are red links. --   Denelson 83  05:43, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

@ Denelson83: do you think all of these are notable? Still unsure exactly how this site works, though it looks interesting. Elli ( talk | contribs) 05:46, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

I am not sure. Maybe some of them are. --   Denelson 83  05:47, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

Sorry to butt in I just wanted to note that the relevant guideline is WP:GEOLAND: "Named natural features are often notable, provided information beyond statistics and coordinates is known to exist. This includes mountains, lakes, streams, islands, etc. The number of known sources should be considered to ensure there is enough verifiable content for an encyclopedic article." This is a form of WP:GNG. Hope this helps. Volcano guy 01:34, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

( Volcanoguy fyi, I don't mind anyone commenting here, please feel free!) Elli ( talk | contribs) 01:49, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

Good day i would like to know how to insert my information so that if people are searching for me they can find me easly -- Myeko Miso ( talk) 15:10, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

@ Myeko Miso: hi, I'm not quite sure what you're asking. If you want a Wikipedia page about you, I would recommend against it, the relevant guideline strongly discourages writing about yourself.

If you'd like to create a user page to help with collaboration with others, just go to User:Myeko Miso and start editing.

Hope that helps! Feel free to ask any further questions. Elli ( talk | contribs) 00:44, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

Hello, I just wanted to tell you that I have the link to the source, I was just unsure how to put it in there - the link is this. My DYK nomination is here. -- Cukrakalnis ( talk) 08:36, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

(Replied at DYK nom) Elli ( talk | contribs) 15:58, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Elli,

Thank you for tagging all of those hoax articles. I vaguely remember encountering this editor before, they created a lot of articles on American Horror Story seasons that hadn't aired yet. Have you run into them before, do they always edit as an IP or are they a blocked editor? Thanks again. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:43, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

@ Liz: not sure - the first I saw of them was your mention of them on PMC's talkpage. I looked at their contributions and everything seemed to be a hoax, so tagged them. Thanks for deleting! Elli ( talk | contribs) 04:44, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Looking into them more closely, I see that some of these pages I deleted before in July 2021. It's an IP editor from Elk River, Minnesota and, in fact, yesterday we deleted a whole bunch of other articles they created about nonexistent TV series. But they seem to switch IP accounts with every other edit. NinjaRobotPirate created a range-block yesterday but we'll see if that stops them. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:50, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

@ Liz: hopefully. I checked the whole /64... but in seeing that it looked like they'd edited some pages created by a different range... and that looks like another rabbit hole of hoax drafts (though some looked legitimate? what a mess) Elli ( talk | contribs) 04:52, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Hey! I was wondering where are you at with your User:Elli/rcat standardization project. I was researching something related to see how section ids and anchor ids are generated and it would seem that by checking the target ID, the template can determine if the target is a section ({{ R to section}}) or anchor ({{ R to anchor}}). Gonnym ( talk) 12:34, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

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Hello, ELli,

I was going to respond to your message but you removed it. I deleted the page because I agreed with your position but it might be challenged. However the page creator removed the tag without adding any references so I agree with you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:48, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

@ Liz: thanks! Elli ( talk | contribs) 03:28, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

Someone vandalized on Georgia's senate election 2020 (Raphael Warnock and Kelly Loeffler) i tried reverting it but its too much. Can you help? also he vandalized the one With David Perdue and Jon Ossoff, but i could fix that one. Trenton 1214 ( talk) 22:07, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

@ Trenton 1214: I'm not seeing any vandalism on the page. Elli ( talk | contribs) 22:24, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

@ Trenton 1214: I did notice a major change to the infobox - I undid that, but it was not vandalism. Elli ( talk | contribs) 22:25, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

His name is Glide08, and he removed run-off election votes Trenton 1214 ( talk) 22:25, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

@ Trenton 1214: yeah, edit-conflicted. That edit was not vandalism, it looks to be clearly made in good-faith. Elli ( talk | contribs) 22:26, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Ok thanks Trenton 1214 ( talk) 22:26, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Also sorry about what happened on the recall page. I was trying to add John H. Cox, but I realized that it removed the whole first part of the article. So I tried to reverse it. But you already did it. Trenton 1214 ( talk) 22:32, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

I saw John H. Cox on the Washington post. So I got my information from there Trenton 1214 ( talk) 22:33, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

@ Trenton 1214: no worries. You inserted nowiki tags for some reason. Also, generally candidates shouldn't be in an infobox unless they got >5% per a long-standing consensus at WikiProject Elections and Referendums. Elli ( talk | contribs) 22:34, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Oh ok Trenton 1214 ( talk) 22:35, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

@ Trenton 1214: yeah. There are lots of weird somewhat-documented consensuses - feel free to ask if you have any questions. Elli ( talk | contribs) 22:36, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Ok will do. Trenton 1214 ( talk) 22:37, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

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Hi, Elli: I created an article for an individual who I thought merited one. This person already had a redirect page. Should have done something with the redirect page rather than creating an entirely new article? I've included links below. Thanks very much for your help. Melissa

REDIRECT PAGE: https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Josh_Kiszka&redirect=no

MY ARTICLE: /info/en/?search=Draft:Josh_Kiszka -- LibrarianAtLarge ( talk) 22:28, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

( Talk page enjoyer) Hi LibrarianAtLarge! What you've done here is entirely okay – because your article is a draft waiting to be reviewed, we want the redirect to stay there so that people will be redirected to Greta Van Fleet until there is a mainspace article about Josh Kiszka. If/when your draft is moved to mainspace, it will replace the redirect. ezlev ( user/ tlk/ ctrbs) 23:27, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

@ LibrarianAtLarge: hi - ezlev's answer here is right - just wait for a review and if accepted the draft will be moved over the redirect. If you have any more questions feel free to ask me! Elli ( talk | contribs) 00:58, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks very much! -- LibrarianAtLarge ( talk) 17:49, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Elli,

Could you pace yourself on tagging articles as PRODs? Right now, there are 137 tagged PRODs expiring next Monday and they each have to be evaluated by an admin. There are only two or three admins who regularly patrol these categories every day and there are typically only 15-30 PRODs expiring each day so this is a big increase. If there are any more pages to tag, please wait a day to do the remainder. Thank you! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:29, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

@ Liz: thanks for the message - I was PRODing very similar articles by the same user, so I figured it shouldn't be too much trouble for each of them to be evaluated. I was divided between this and doing a mass AfD, but as I felt the AfD would be unlikely to be contested, I chose to PROD (also, mass AfD isn't really a great procedure to start with). I've tagged about a third of the articles, I think, and I'll be happy to wait for a day to tag the rest (and probably split over the next few days) if that would make things easier. Sorry for any inconvenience! Elli ( talk | contribs) 19:32, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

how to create a page -- Translatemyproject ( talk) 05:54, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

@ Translatemyproject: I suggest you read Help:Your first article - please lmk if you have any more questions. Elli ( talk | contribs) 06:34, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

Hello, I hope you are having a great day. I have a quick question about RI. 2020 presidential turnout. Is the turnout supposed to have 7.4pp after the arrow to show you an increase from 2016 election turnout? Because the 2016 election had that for the 2012 election. RonMcDonald721 ( talk) 22:53, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

@ RonMcDonald721: that seems appropriate. Also, the turnout should probably have a source, currently it isn't sourced anywhere in the article. Elli ( talk | contribs) 22:57, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

Okay, thank you. I just wanted to know because it didn't look normal RonMcDonald721 ( talk) 23:01, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

Ok, so I added 7.6pp, but I'm not going to put a source down because I don't know where to get one. RonMcDonald721 ( talk) 23:10, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

Is that okay? RonMcDonald721 ( talk) 23:18, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

@ RonMcDonald721: sure, you didn't really add any content, you only performed a routine calculation - in general when you add content you should cite a source though (so the person who added the turnout numbers, in this case). Elli ( talk | contribs) 23:28, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

Ok thank you RonMcDonald721 ( talk) 23:49, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

Ebbedlila ( talk) 18:33, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

@ Ebbedlila: no problem, glad I could help! Elli ( talk | contribs) 18:35, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

I don't expect to get AWB back but I do want to simply fix typos this time, if that's the only thing I am allowed to do. Now then, I will perhaps find something else to do. And I'm sorry for wasting everyone's time. Ebbedlila ( talk) 19:41, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

@ Ebbedlila: it's ok. It might take you a bit to regain people's trust though so I'd advise you to work on some other things. A mass rollback does not really take much time to perform so you didn't really cause too much inconvenience. Elli ( talk | contribs) 19:42, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

How did you use the mass rollback? Ebbedlila ( talk) 19:49, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

@ Ebbedlila: I used the userscript at meta:User:Blablubbs/rbk.js, but you need to have the rollback permission for it to work. Elli ( talk | contribs) 19:51, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

( talk page stalker) @ Ebbedlila This script can run AWB's typo fixing on a single page, if that helps. ―  Qwerfjkl talk 09:06, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

Qwerfjkl, I don't have access to AWB. Ebbedlila ( talk) 11:57, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

@ Ebbedlila I surmised that from the discussion. The script merely runs WP:RegExTypoFixing on a single page. ―  Qwerfjkl talk 12:11, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

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Hi im Will, nice to meet you. This is what i have figured so far. Editing pages and the ..... hypertext links. Do you know how to create pages ?? -- F6IDpatch0001 ( talk) 19:30, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

@ F6IDpatch0001: hi! You need to be autoconfirmed to be able to create pages - your account will become autoconfirmed after ten edits and three days. This is an anti-spam measure. If you're interested in creating articles, can I suggest reading Help:Your first article? Feel free to ask me if you have any more questions! Elli ( talk | contribs) 19:58, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

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	Thank you so much for clearing the backlog, I can't thank you enough! Qwerfjkl talk 09:03, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

@ Qwerfjkl: glad I could help! Elli ( talk | contribs) 18:39, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

Hi. What you did to Maciste All'Inferno makes no sense to me. I see lots of refs using it either with all uppercase initials (" Maciste All'Inferno"), or with lowercase, Maciste all'inferno. But I can't find refs using the mixed casing you applied to the page. Please revert your changes. — capmo ( talk) 20:19, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

Campo, hi, I didn't notice the capitalization of the I. Because the majority of entries are spelled with lowercase, I'd suggest moving it to the all-lowercase version. Feel free to do this - or I'll do it in a few hours when I get back to my computer. Thanks for your message and sorry for the inconvenience! Elli ( talk | contribs) 20:34, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

No problem! I agree with your suggestion that the all-lowercase version is the best place for the dab. Since it was created by me yesterday, I thought there should be no problem in moving its contents to Maciste all'inferno instead of yet another page move that would involve deleting the target page. I hope you're OK with that solution. Regards, — capmo ( talk) 21:29, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

@ Capmo: that's fine, thanks! Elli ( talk | contribs) 22:40, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

Hi Elli! I have assigned to you as my mentor and I actually have a question to ask you... I recently created a page, but accidentally I wrote the name without capital letters on the URL and page title. Do you know how to fix it? -- Mvcervi ( talk) 05:49, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

@ Mvcervi: hi, thanks for the question. You can move the page - I checked your contributions and it looks like you've already done this, but please let me know if there's anything else I can help you with! Elli ( talk | contribs) 13:29, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

List of governors of California by age has also been included in the nomination with List of governors of Texas by age. OCNative ( talk) 22:22, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

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To talkpage stalkers: see ANI ( permalink). Elli ( talk | contribs) 08:56, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

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@ TheresNoTime: thank you so much! Anything I can do to help :) Elli ( talk | contribs) 22:44, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

Hi again, Elli. Thank you for your previous answer. I would like to ask you for something else. Could you check the page that I have recently created and tell me how can I improve it? Lee Joo-sung -- Mvcervi ( talk) 03:04, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

Mvcervi sure - I'm about to sleep now but I'll take a look tomorrow. Elli ( talk | contribs) 03:17, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

I just wanted to say hi. Cwater1 ( talk) 02:37, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

@ Cwater1: hello! Elli ( talk | contribs) 02:58, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

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@ Ahmad Abdullah 99: yes. Is there anything you'd like to ask about Wikipedia? Elli ( talk | contribs) 14:32, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

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94rain ^Talk 20:12, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

@ 94rain: uh, why? I marked it as patrolled as I had PRODed it, and if it was dePRODed I'd notice and take appropriate action otherwise. Elli ( talk | contribs) 14:33, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

I thought PRODed pages should be left as unreviewed per Wikipedia:New_pages_patrol#Proposed_Deletion_(PROD). But I just realized that this page is not a policy/guideline so it may be flexible in practice? Best, 94rain ^Talk 23:03, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

@ 94rain: ah, yeah. The wording there isn't really ideal - I tend to keep an eye on any page I PROD so putting it back in the queue isn't necessary. Not sure if I feel up for gathering consensus for a change there, if you don't watch your PROD log it is a good rule of thumb. Anyway, thanks for the explanation :) and your work on NPP Elli ( talk | contribs) 23:26, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Elli,

Before deleting all of these pages that you tagged for uncontroversial deletion, I'd like to see that you notified or spoke to Oshwah about this. It doesn't look like you have. They aren't technically User pages but they do concern his Userspace. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:15, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

@ Liz: I was planning on notifying him, thought I'd do the tagging first. He last edited four days ago, though, and I highly doubt he would mind. He originally intended to use a group notice but that didn't work - the reason being he didn't create Template:Editnotices/Group/User:Oshwah with {{editnotice subpages|TalkPageArchives}} (that is pretty unintuitive so I don't blame him). I figured since that was his original intent, and the display of the editnotice would not change at all, that he would not mind, and tagging these for speedy deletion would save time compared to taking them to, say, TfD. Elli ( talk | contribs) 01:18, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

Okay, I appreciate your speedy response. I know he had a recent move and hasn't been as active on Wikipedia lately. Besides my concern, I just had a general reaction of "What is up with all of these pages?" and wondered if it was another Cluebot mistake but no, Oshwah created these pages. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:22, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

@ Liz: yeah, I know he's been busy lately. And yeah I could see why you might be surprised - I'm working on a decent sized standardization-and-cleanup of editnotices - there's a lot of stuff like this, where people didn't realize what they wanted to do could be accomplished more simply. I really appreciate your work dealing with the g6s that result! Elli ( talk | contribs) 01:25, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

Hey Elli! I'm doing my first GA review over at Talk:Susan Catania/GA1, and since I'm pretty sure you're knowledgeable about Wikipedia's norms surrounding election info, I'm hoping you can take a peek at Susan Catania#Electoral history and let me know whether you think it's appropriate. I'm not asking because I think it isn't – I'm just genuinely not sure. Thanks so much! ezlev ( user/ tlk/ ctrbs) 05:23, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

@ Ezlev: I would generally say that's appropriate - in some cases it can be split out to a separate article, like Electoral history of Andrew Cuomo, but that doesn't look necessary to me. Elli ( talk | contribs) 14:33, 20 October 2021 (UTC)