Can I ask why you think an off-hand comment about Wikipedia is worth mentioning here? We should avoid getting overexcited about a pundit mentioning Wikipedia, simply because we're editing Wikipedia - it wouldn't be very helpful to the reader if every article included "and here's what they thought about Wikipedia!", irrespective of merit. -- McGeddon ( talk) 09:01, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
I appreciate your comments and argument but I think it's not a merely personal point. It may become a source for a larger entry about the 'bogus' nature of wikipedia and other encyclodedias. I also found a related article on Letts and wikipedia. On the self-referential part of the press and wikipedia. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/opinion/stephen-glover/stephen-glover-on-the-press-401205.html. Is there some other entry for all this? The matter of other 'columnists', makes it then into the problem of self-reference and the sense of 'bogus' sources. If someone wrote a blog on http://jonslattery.blogspot.com/2009/11/danger-of-wikipedia-do-you-want-world.html) to support it is this perpetuating recursive false trails? It is a comment made by him about Wikipedia, where else should it be but accompanying his entry?-- Davdevalle ( talk) 10:23, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Who is convincing whom here? The example was not one of vandalism that Letts gave, he was stating his worries in a programme about digital archiving. This illustrates his worries factually and is sourced. There thousands of unsourced interpretive points all over Wikipedia. The 'policy' you believe concerning vandalism is your interpretation of a contribution. I fail to see why you want to edit this contribution and delete and censor this information and play into the agenda of artificial forgetting. The idea of events on radio are somehow less important that a book published or articles is odd. What kind of event are you assessing here as being important? I adopt the position that this particular 'event' 'comment' discussion is an apposite instance of an event that enshrines idiomatically the ethos of Wikipedia as a unique form of knowledge for all to engage with and use. I fail to see how the emphasis on textual commentary and a practice more suited to medieval gloss than the always available audio archives and sense that digital information gives has more credence on a programme actually discussing the virtue of artificial forgetting. This is where digital forms are more interesting and dynamic than text. An encyclopedia is to aid the growth of knowledge Letts comment is a source here of the problem of digital preservation and artificial forgetting. He cited his own son's contribution which has since been edited out. His son is wise and bold enough to handle his original editing of his dad's entry. In 40 years time there may not even be an Archbishop of Canterbury and having a crush on Cheryl Cole might even be a bit of street cred for a future prime minister! The entry is about something Letts did and not just one of his opinions! Davdevalle ( talk) 21:30, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
Just to let you know I've raised an RFC here - feel free to comment yourself. Thanks. -- McGeddon ( talk) 23:38, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
removed, as I think I made a boo boo in reading what happened on the Jesus Christians thread! Sorry—Preceding unsigned comment added by Choodle2 ( talk • contribs) 15:05, 9 October 2010
You appear to be involved in an edit war, according to the reverts you have made on Quentin Letts. If you edit disruptively including breaking the three-revert rule you may be blocked without further warning.
Not sure who you were trying to talk to when you posted this to my talk page. WP:DISPUTE should point you in the right direction, if there's a problem, but I'm happy to answer any questions you have - it sounds like we're just coming at this from different perspectives. As much as I'd enjoy a debate about artificial forgetting, that isn't what I'm doing here, and I don't mean to be belittling your viewpoint - I'm just applying mundane Wikipedia policy to decide whether or not a paragraph should be included in an article, the same way I'd apply it to "Quentin Letts likes Jaffa cakes" or "Quentin Letts thinks that Richard Dawkins is evil". -- McGeddon ( talk) 11:55, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
The material you're removing is well-sourced, in accordance with our sourcing policy—it is sourced not only to secondary sources, as we require, but also to Icke himself. I'm sorry you don't like it, but if you continue to remove it you're likely to be reported for editing warring. Edit warring is particularly inappropriate when performed by a single-purpose account, because it tends to suggest personal involvement or the imposition of a strong point of view, whereas Wikipedia articles have to reflect what reliable sources say, regardless of how anyone feels about that personally.
By all means make your arguments on the talk page instead. Many thanks, SlimVirgin TALK| CONTRIBS 14:25, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
Hello. The username is familiar, I'm sure we've worked on some of the same articles in the past, but I don't know this editor well enough to comment on any "tactics". It looks like you've raised an RFC over whatever concerns you had, which seems like the best thing to do here. -- McGeddon ( talk) 11:33, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
Aloha. I have requested that the RfC be closed, and a new RfC opened in its place focusing on a brief, neutral assessment of the dispute that does not discuss other editors and focuses solely on the content. You appear to have confused the two RfCs (article content and user conduct, with the third concerning Wikipedia policy and guidelines). This confusion is not necessarily your fault, considering the process is somewhat esoteric and procedures of this kind are written and documented by people who have poor communication skills. Viriditas ( talk) 23:05, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
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My mistake on the "two days after": I looked at the start of the previous section and saw "on the evening of 22 November 1867" and mistakenly thought that that was the day of the executions. The page that you linked to in your citation shows that the paragraph in the letter began "So yesterday...", not "yesterday" as you claimed in your edit summary. Taken all together, the text 'Frederick Engels wrote to Karl Marx predicting that “yesterday morning the Tories, by the hand of Mr Calcraft..."' is very obviously a copy-and-paste from http://radicalmanchester.wordpress.com/2009/09/08/the-manchester-martyrs/ and I am disappointed that you would try and deny it. Scolaire ( talk) 15:28, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
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