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We're over half way through the final, and so it is less than a month until we know for certain our 2012 WikiCup champion. Grapple X ( submissions) currently leads, followed by Sasata ( submissions), Cwmhiraeth ( submissions) and Casliber ( submissions). However, we have no one resembling a breakaway leader, and so the competition is a long way from over. Next month's newsletter will feature a list of our winners (who are not necessarily only the finalists) and keep your eyes open for an article on the WikiCup in a future edition of The Signpost. The leaders are already on a par with last year's winners, but a long way from the huge scores seen in 2010. That said, a repeat of the competition from 2010 seems unlikely.
It is good to see that three-quarters of our finalists have already scored bonus points this round. This shows that, contrary to criticism that the WikiCup has received in the past, the competition does not merely incentivise the writing of trivial articles; instead, our top competitors are still spending their time contributing to high-importance articles, and bringing them to a high standard. This does a great service to the encyclopedia and its readers. Thank you, and good work!
The planning for next year's WikiCup is ongoing. Some straw polls have been opened concerning the scoring, and you can now sign up for next year's competition. As ever, if you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn ( talk • email) and The ed17 ( talk • email) J Milburn ( talk) 19:49, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
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Hey all :).
We're (very shortly) closing down this development cycle for Page Curation. It's genuinely been a pleasure to talk with you all and build software that is so close to my own heart, and also so effective. The current backlog is 9 days, and I've never seen it that low before.
However! Closing up shop does not mean not making any improvements. First-off, this is your last chance to give us a poke about unresolved bugs or report new ones on the talkpage. If something's going wrong, we want to know about it :). Second, we'll hopefully be taking another pass over the software next year. If you've got ideas for features Page Curation doesn't currently have, stick them here.
Again, it's been an honour. Thanks :). Okeyes (WMF) ( talk) 12:09, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
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The 2012 WikiCup has come to a close; congratulations to Cwmhiraeth ( submissions), our 2012 champion! Cwmhiraeth joins our exclusive club of previous winners: Dreamafter (2007), jj137 (2008), Durova (2009), Sturmvogel 66 (2010) and Hurricanehink (2011). Our final standings were as follows:
Prizes for first, second, third and fourth will be awarded, as will prizes for all those who reached the final eight. Every participant who scored in the competition will receive a ribbon of participation. In addition to the prizes based on placement, the following special prizes will be awarded based on high performance in particular areas of content creation. So that the finalists do not have an undue advantage, the prize is awarded to the competitor who scored the highest in any particular field in a single round.
Awards will be handed out in the coming days; please bear with us! This year's competition also saw fantastic contributions in all rounds, from newer Wikipedians contributing their first good or featured articles, right up to highly experienced Wikipedians chasing high scores and contributing to topics outside of their usual comfort zones. It would be impossible to name all of the participants who have achieved things to be proud of, but well done to all of you, and thanks! Wikipedia has certainly benefited from the work of this year's WikiCup participants.
Next year's WikiCup will begin in January. Currently, discussions and polls are open, and all contributions are welcome. You can also sign up for next year's competition. There will be no further newsletters this year, although brief notes may be sent out in December to remind everyone about the upcoming competition. It's been a pleasure to work with you all, and we hope to see you all in January! J Milburn ( talk • email) and The ed17 ( talk • email) 00:18, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
Hiya! A little while ago you reviewed Clarke at FAR; that one petered out due to lack of consensus, but he's back on review if you have any further comments/ideas! cheers. -- Errant ( chat!) 14:14, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
Anyway. You're getting this note because you've participated in discussion and/or asked for updates to either the Article Feedback Tool or Page Curation. This isn't about either of those things, I'm afraid ;p. We've recently started working on yet another project: Echo, a notifications system to augment the watchlist. There's not much information at the moment, because we're still working out the scope and the concepts, but if you're interested in further updates you can sign up here.
In addition, we'll be holding an office hours session at 21:00 UTC on Wednesday, 14 November in #wikimedia-office - hope to see you all there :). I appreciate it's an annoying time for non-Europeans: if you're interested in chatting about the project but can't make it, give me a shout and I can set up another session if there's enough interest in one particular timezone or a skype call if there isn't. Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) ( talk) 10:50, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
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Welcome back : ) - jc37 00:53, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
Over the last week or so, I've asked several people if they would like to run for arbcom. After awhile, considering some of the responses I've received (and my own understanding of life on the committee), I've started to feel like I'm offering to sell someone the Brooklyn bridge...
So with that in mind, and the discussion at here in mind. What would your advice to me be? I'm kinda torn between my wont to help, and all these people I respect telling me how awful it is. - jc37 03:40, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
Would you please consider running? -- Anthonyhcole ( talk) 04:30, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
I absolutely did not intend any misrepresentation of any candidate, of course, and you will note your "upgrade." Cheers. Collect ( talk) 23:09, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
Oh dear, apologies if that wasn't clear! I assumed that because the book was mentioned in a few places on my talk page, and that I had mentioned it to Brad, it would be obvious. Also, in your edit here, you linked to a comment of mine which begins by mentioning the book. That was on 22 November.
Although now I have another question: given that anyone can register and ask questions on the election pages, why should the fact someone was writing a book make any differences to the answer, given that the election page is public? Is it because you would have to be more careful? But then why would you be more careful talking to a writer or journalist than you would be talking to the community? Or is it because the material might be used in the book? But then why would you be concerned about being quoted from a page that is public? I mean, any journalist can read the election pages and write whatever they like, of course.
My policy for the book wherever possible has been to send people copies of any material quoted. That is standard practice. Obviously where the material is already public domain, this may be harder, but then it is public domain.
The book has raised many fascinating issues about how we deal with openness and transparency in a world where everything is supposed to be open and transparent. My thesis is that it leads Wikipedians to be less open and transparent. The radical openness makes it inevitable that people will seek privacy, with inevitable results.
Happy to continue this by private email if you like (slight irony!). I would still be interested in discussing the other observation which you say "is an excellent point". It was the problem of the double bottleneck - Wikipedia needs both breadth and depth, the wiki solved the problem of breadth, it did not, in my view, solve the problem of depth. Is there a problem? Can the arbitration committee resolve it? Hestiaea ( talk) 14:46, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
I too would be happy to continue discussing the other observation (the double bottleneck) and similar issues, but that is not really anything to do with the arbitration committee (which is a relatively narrowly focused body). Wider issues, and especially content issues, are something that are discussed in the 'community', though there are times when that is like herding cats. I mentioned your comment to Casliber. You could take up that point with him as well.
Going back to matters of openness and transparency, I noticed this comment by one of the other candidates in the election. This brings me to another point: things on Wikipedia happen on so many pages, it is difficult to keep track of things, even with watchlists and 'related changes' and whatnot. It is surprisingly easy to miss things even when they are being talked about semi-openly. Sometimes you have to know how to read between the lines, and even then it is possible to misinterpret things. Carcharoth ( talk) 18:59, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
Re [1]; I don't recall having given any answer that related to you specifically, but if you picked up any error in a response or mine, or just want to discuss it, I always welcome dialogue. — Coren (talk) 23:42, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
But User:Ealdgyth/2012 Arb Election votes is probably mostly finalized. Ealdgyth - Talk 00:04, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
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I noticed your username commenting at an Arbcom discussion regarding civility. An effort is underway that would likely benifit if your views were included. I hope you will append regards at: Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Civility enforcement/Questionnaire Thank you for considering this request. My76Strat ( talk) 09:37, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
I appreciate that you considered the request. I have mostly resolved to not rebut any choice a respondent has been kind enough to post. However, I ask you to indulge a follow-on, and hope you do not perceive ill will of me for doing so; I mean well.
For transparency, I am primarily an advocate for clear policy and uniform application. And I believe it is doable, to define the tolerable limit for acceptable standards, ie civility. I may be as wrong as I am young.
While it might appear favorable to my position, not overly encouraging the inclusion of opposing views, I am more interested, by my endeavor, to see the range of opinions included, for consideration, opposed to omitted by a moral boycott, that I feel is misplaced.
I have interacted with several respected users in the past week, who have different insight than what I have included, and many, like yourself, have expressed some form of disdain, for the process. Too often (in my opinion), their response was to decline participation. Please tell me why it would be better for a significant viewpoint to not be included?
The points of your criticism, as much as they are similar to what others have said, are valid, they serve Wikipedia better by being included in this important discussion, yet so many will likely not be, like yours.
If a question is bad, the answer can say it's bad, perhaps why, and if fortunate, a counter example, or point of refocus. Good counsel and unanticipated insight are not going to be ignored!
The whole notion that the RFC, questionnaire, concept, and form, were authored with bad faith, and predisposed objectives, is not an accurate premise. In closing, I hope you will take a moment to provide some insight to my query above, because I can't fill in the blanks, and I'm beginning to fear a significant imbalance of important considerations, for omission. Best, My76Strat ( talk) 08:56, 1 December 2012 (UTC)