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Happy editing! Mattythewhite ( talk) 00:17, 12 December 2022 (UTC) reply

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Sorry, about that, I made a constructive edit but some internet problems led to the edit being posted twice. 1brianm7 ( talk) 11:53, 7 March 2023 (UTC) reply

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blacks, African Americans

I am writing about your changing "blacks" to "African Americans" at Frederick Douglass. I am fine with your edit, but I want to express my views on the subject. First, I believe that, if one is going to use "black," the convention now is to capitalize it (but not to capitalize "white"; there is a logic to that, which I am not sure that I can explain). But I also believe, and this may be an eccentricity on my part, that we should not use "Black" or "African American" as nouns but should use them as adjectives preceding "person" or "people." This is because, to refer to a Black person as a "Black" or "African American" is to define him or her by his race, whereas race is only one feature of a person. If we were referring to a group of NBA players, we say that they were tall people, not "talls." This is because their height is only one feature of them. But I am not going to change your edit of Frederick Douglass to "African American people," because it is not incorrect, even if it is not my preference. By the way, you write "changed word to fit previous words used," but I see no problem with using both "Black" and "African American" in the same article. Maurice Magnus ( talk) 13:29, 23 January 2024 (UTC) reply

Thanks for the message. The point about previous words used was pretty unclear of me, I knew that the standard is to capitalize Black but it was not capitalized and noticed that in the same paragraph it used African Americans.
Knowing that what was currently there was wrong and that there was a perfectly viable alternative at hand, I made the edit. I probably should have made that clearer.
I'm under the impression that Black is capitalized because it represents a culture, not just a color.
I'm not sure why I didn't just capitalize it, I'd suppose it's probably because going "Blacks" felt really weird.
I can see your point with not including people or person, it does feel a tad weird, but I'm not at all confident enough in that decision to begin enforcing it.
I've misread style guides and done bad edits enough times to make me cautious of changing things in ways I may be ignorant of, especially since it's really annoying to go back and revert those edits. 1brianm7 ( talk) 15:25, 23 January 2024 (UTC) reply
"Black is capitalized because it represents a culture, not just a color." That's a good, simple, way to put it. I'll have to remember it. Thanks. Maurice Magnus ( talk) 15:57, 23 January 2024 (UTC) reply