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Brian Plante restored, Tom Harrison Talk 23:47, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
No problem. Just let nature take its course. Work on it if you get a chance, or someone else will, or it will get deleted sometime. Tom Harrison Talk 13:03, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
I understand how you feel about Gadsby (book), but your comments at Talk:Gadsby_(book)#party_poopers and User_talk:Maclean25#Gadsby are not helping matters. Please stop the name-calling and turd-dropping. It's not terribly helpful, as I'm sure you're aware. - Phoenixrod ( talk) 19:15, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
I don't care about the book. I stand behind my remarks about the type of people on wikipedia who spend too much time worrying about what someone else is doing and too little contributing. And I don't care if you disagree with that. Report me to the principal. TCO ( talk) 19:24, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
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Are you the TCO from the Asimov's board?-- T. Anthony ( talk) 05:25, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
This comment was clearly not appropriate. You have been warned several times about WP:Civil. I strongly urge you to change your approach to dealing with others on wikipedia. You will be blocked on the next offense. Toddst1 ( talk) 18:25, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your recent comment. I am new to the concept of dragonhood myself and suppose that we are more often solitary than clubable. But I share your interest in science fiction and agree that we should work to improve and preserve such content. The Wikipedia:Article_Rescue_Squadron provides a good focus for such activity. I also find that a daily patrol of Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Log/Yesterday is rewarding. Colonel Warden ( talk) 12:39, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Does this comment really add anything to the discussion on the talk page? Please keep comments like that in your head or in your userspace and instead contribute constructively to the discussion. Thanks and cheers, — Ed 17 (Talk / Contribs) 01:32, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
You should find a part of wiki to contribute content to that interests you, instead of being a rules-ninny in an area that you don't even care about, topic-wise. TCO ( talk) 03:15, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
Seriously what is you're problem? Are you trying to get yourself banned? If anyone has any further issues with this user, just report them to the above admin, Toddst1. ʄ!• ¿talk? 04:18, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
Don't bluster so hard. Wait for me to fuck up again. TCO ( talk) 04:27, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
Hey,
You created the Stover at Yale article, and since the earliest revision it has contained the line "it was later published in over xx editions by other publishers includding blabla. Overseas publication was blabla."
I can fix includding -> including, but I wonder what the "blabla" is supposed to mean.
You are welcome to fix this yourself, or give me information about the Stover at Yale book so that I may fix it.
Bobber0001 ( talk) 09:39, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
We need to find the info. The blabla is a placeholder. BTW, thank you for working on the content and not being another self-important admin...here to threaten me with banning. TCO ( talk) 13:58, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
link The Paragon to Amazon, not Wiki, as there is no wiki article.
for after unbanned
new article
TCO ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
My comment had a logical rationale and explained my edit. Note, I am not contesting earlier blocks which were justified.
Decline reason:
"Heavy handed turd dropping" is not a logical rationale. Your comment may have explained the revert you made, but you could have done it in a much less aggressive manner. — Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry ( talk) 13:57, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
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Request reason:
While open to considering I'm in the wrong, I request a "fresh" admin to review this. Chase me has been involved in recent disputes where I supported the counter-party.
Decline reason:
I'm not involved in any conflict that would lead me to conflict of interest in your case, but I still find your behaviour on discussion pages inappropriate. MaxSem( Han shot first!) 14:27, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
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Thanks for the triple check, Max. Not contesting the previous pattern of behavior, just the recent conviction. Will take my punishment--see y'all in January. TCO ( talk) 14:31, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
Sandbox, placeholder
ref: http://www.georgiaencyclopedia.org/nge/Article.jsp?id=h-511
placeholder
Zorita article
I have divided the Texas page into 6 parts. Hopefully with more manageable chunks, people will be more willing to copyedit the page. would you be willing to copy edit one section of the Texas page?
Oldag07 ( talk) 18:09, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
Yes. TCO ( talk) 03:35, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
A section has been begun on AN/I about you. — Ed 17 (Talk / Contribs) 02:56, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
I have blocked you for three months for repeated incivility and disruption following multiple blocks for the same reasons. We don't wish to perpetuate an editing environment where it is ok for you to harass other editors. If you feel this block is incorrect, please place the {{
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I feel the block is proper. TCO ( talk) 03:28, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
I can't help you by copy editing, since I am being punished. Unless...I use my talk page as a sand box. Hmm...that might work. TCO ( talk) 03:35, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
Pshew! That was a long ban punishment. TCO ( talk) 17:00, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Welcome back. Read any good SF lately? I read Anathem myself, which was quite good and has been nominated for a Hugo, I see. Colonel Warden ( talk) 18:11, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
No. I am hard to please. TCO ( talk) 18:49, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
This is a section for my case officers, admins, and sparring partners to commend me. TCO ( talk) 00:22, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
{{
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below, but you should read our
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Toddst1 (
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I asked for a time out, so that I spend less time on the Internet. Did not think I had done any incivility (yet). Of course, you could be doing me a favor by perma-banning me...
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I don't understand the block reason. If it was to help me lose weight I applaud you. If it was for incivility, I don't think I did that yet. Capisce?
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The diff which resulted in your indef block was included in the block reason. No valid unblock reason given. OhNoitsJamie Talk 01:09, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
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A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Stover at Yale book cover image.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files because its copyright status is unclear or disputed. If the file's copyright status cannot be verified, it may be deleted. You may find more information on the file description page. You are welcome to add comments to its entry at the discussion if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. -- B ( talk) 04:12, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
I request to be unbanned. See ANI "New start" for details. TCO ( talk) 06:32, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
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I understand why I was blocked and will not do it again. I request a non-involved admin review this case.
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I am uninvolved. You have shown no understanding of why you were blocked. In fact, you have done nothing but question it. As such, how can you say you will never do it again? ( talk→ BWilkins ←track) 08:42, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
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Was trying to avoid ANI, since there can be a lot of drama and contention at these things. And I didn't want myself to be batted around as the subject of public debate. But I guess, I want to appeal to the community. I will abide by their call.
I just want to get unblocked and edit again and write content. It's kinda fun to write on Wiki since the interface is so cool and it gets on the web immediately. And there are some areas where I know some decent stuff, content-wise. And I'm not Tony1, but I'm an asset as a writer, here.
1. I recognize that I was uncivil (in general have not tried to deny this...I just did it anyway).
2. I promise not to do it any more. Note, I never said that before and it's a big deal (to me) to say that, since now I've made a commitment, versus before when I was just defiant.
3. My plan in future is to contribute content, avoid one article where I most clashed, and avoid editors/admins whom I clashed with previously.
4. Bwilkins is not uninvolved. We have clashed before. Nov 2008.
TCO ( talk) 11:08, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
Absolutely. Thanks for the time spent, regardless of outcome. TCO ( talk) 21:58, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
Understood and agreed (incivility). Thanks for the time spent. TCO ( talk) 22:06, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
Thanks. Sandbox edit tested and worked. Appreciate the attention, especially given your semi-retirement. TCO ( talk) 23:07, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
Good question. "Yes." Here are the details (not trying to make excuses or be defiant, just describing):
1. I didn't edit at all for several months, just honored the May09 perma-ban. I usually try to honor perma-bans (or temporary ones) from forums I get kicked out of. I figure the moderators need to do their job and my bannings are justified.
2. I've never created an alternate account.
3. Then I think I IP-edited a few days, a couple months ago, with whatever IP just came off of my computer and ISP. I was associated with creation of the RVC Bodley and Gertrude Friedberg and Alexandra Raisman pages. Maybe a handful of other edits at other pages I can't recall.
4. I didn't really see it as sneaking around, but yeah...that was not honoring the ban, no argument. Kinda let slip that I was a previous editor (I'm a miserable sock, am way too candid). Was told by other editors not to post any more. Honored that...for a little while.
5. Don't come down on the people who opened new pages for me to create content. I just asked as an IP (normal process, since IPs can't make new pages). It's not like they were thick with me.
6. Started editing Shawn Johnson, a few days ago. (With the 7xx...IP you blocked. Also one other one starting with a 9xx.. No intentional change of the IP, it just did that for some reason when I was at different spots even though computer was the same.)
7. An off-hand remark from Charles Matthews implying that one could come back from exile ("but stop socking, that is not the way to come back") kind of knocked around in the back of my head. Made me think, maybe the perma-ban was appealable. (Plus I lost the 70 pounds and got really strong in shape, and stopped drinking, so my need for Internet break I asked for from ProtonK had been satisfied.) Plus Intelati was recommending I get an account instead of IP-editing (he did not know the history, thought I was a new contributor.)
8. So I reached out to find out how to come back if possible. Intelati put in an ANI (now archived). I stopped IP editing at that time. (Prior to your blocking of the IP.) I was advised to put in an unblock request, using th template and after readin the unblock instructions (which I did). That brings us here.
9. P.s. If my block appeal by community is not granted, then we should RTV the account. (Not being "take my ball and go home", just common sense.) And yeah, I read the policy and know RTV doesn't allow me to come back under sanction. Just if I'm forever banned, and already asked community to come back, let's clean this account up and each go our own way.
TCO ( talk) 19:37, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
If you want to, dive right in! You might want to start someplace like WP:GAN If you read the reviews at WP:FAC, they can get rather technical about the Manual of Style (MOS) so that might not be a good place to start. By the way, I think the newer the FA (check the promotion date in article history on the article talk page) the better the writing.-- Wehwalt ( talk) 11:29, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
I just wasn't sure if he was encouraging me to copyedit passed articles, or copyedit in general, or join a "group", or do some peer reviewing. I r slow. :) TCO ( talk) 19:31, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
See Amanar. Give me some feedback and upgrades (to help become a power user)! TCO ( talk)
Why not start an archive for your talk page? People are going to get entirely the wrong idea when they come here and see all the blocks.
What are you interested in writing about?
1. I don't like archives and if anything want to go in the opposite direction and pull a lot of old content out, that was wiped while I was banned. Will have to collate it with new stuff. And a couple bad remarks of mine were rightfully deleted, so have to not bring those back. I'd rather keep the bans and such, but have them in chronological order rather than as a page header. It's a bit of a project and low priority, but I agree looks pretty bad, right now!
2. Mostly interested in gymnastics right now. Could change quickly though. That project seems dead.
TCO ( talk) 21:44, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
And again. The Utahraptor Talk/ Contribs 01:36, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
Thank you so much for picking up the copy-edit...I thought nobody would come! XD NYMFan69-86 ( talk) 02:54, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
No sweat. What did the comment about technical matters mean in the request (wikitechnical or biological). Anyhow, I will proof the whole thing and then back in your hot little hands! ;) TCO ( talk) 02:57, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
Hello, I think you may have misinterpreted the guidelines. Please see my response on the WP:NSPORT talk page. And I tried to get the gymnastics project involved in it as well but there was no response from that dead project. My response is basically on the lines of all the people you mentioned are notable and the guideline covers all of them as well. -- MATThematical ( talk) 22:41, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
Hey. Hope I am not coming across as argumentative. Head is a little frazzled from working on Painted turtle. I'm well up for the mission of controlling BLP creep. It just seems like that list thrown up there is a little too strict. For one thing, could look at cycling or skating for comparators. Plus, I think wiki may have a blind spot for the actual notability since the kind of people who follow the sport don't tend to write stuff up on wiki (although they do use the Internet and google and would read a wiki bio). Anyhoo...back to my turtle. No hard feelings, man! TCO ( talk) 05:23, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
-- NYMFan69-86 ( talk) 18:49, 1 December 2010 (UTC) Another cool turtle Loggerhead sea turtle. Regards, SunCreator ( talk) 00:12, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, that is definitely a cool one. Like how it has a picture of what it eats and then what eats it. TCO ( talk) 00:23, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
How much do people edit wikipages completely off line (like using MS Word)? It seems like it is a lot easier to scan pages and cut and paste text, at least if doing an initial composition. Would think for spellchecking and word counting could be helpful also.
That said, refs have to be done with wiki and once they are in, I guess you are stuck. But it is really a hassle always going from edit mode to view mode, rather than having a WYSIWYG interface. Also, the way all the code for refs is in the paragraph, instead of down with the references (total eyesore)!
Just want to know if there is some easier way, or tricks I'm missing.
P.s. This is also to test whether it is more useful to ask questions on my userpage or off at an appropriate page. Would figure the latter, but just testing. Managing the watchlists is also a hassle.
TCO ( talk) 05:29, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
Or is the Village Pump a good place? TCO ( talk) 06:29, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, no archive. I'm going to straighten out the page manually, but it is a project. Hate archives.
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Here it finally is! You deserve ten of these for your work on the Painted turtle. Whatever that article becomes, let it always be known that you worked tirelessly for weeks to make it better. Thank you TCO, NYMFan69-86 ( talk) 05:45, 7 December 2010 (UTC) |
Very cool. Was trying to get enought done for one from the GoC, but I didn't get enough done by month end to earn one (see post above). So, since you gave me one, I got one anyhow. That does remind me, I'm going to call it "done" over at GoC. Will still help you out, but I just think it has gone through the process enough to check the box, if you are cool with that? TCO ( talk) 14:35, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
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I award you this barnstar of teamwork for helping me get the 1907 Tiflis bank robbery article ready for the mainspace. I greatly appreciate all the help you gave me, and this is the least I could do to show my appreciation. Remember ( talk) 23:00, 16 December 2010 (UTC) |
p.s. The article has already been nominated (without prompting) as a good article by a Dr. Blofeld and is nominated as a DYK! Thanks again for all of your help!! Remember ( talk) 23:00, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
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Thanks, man!12:08, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
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it basically makes the references smaller, but you need to end it by adding a refend otherwise it makes the whole of the rest of the article small Tom B ( talk) 18:24, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
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Hey, sorry, I use a lot of jargon since I generally plow through 20 FACs at once. I check Dabs and ELs using the links in the box in the upper right corner of the specific FAC page- i.e. for you it was Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Painted turtle/archive1. The five links are for tools that show who edited the article when, how many edits each person did (to see if the nominator has done any work on it), what dabs there are, what the external links look like, and if there is alt text for the images. As alt text isn't a requirement at the moment and nominations by people who haven't touched the article are easily spotted, I just check dabs and ELs.
Dab is a link to a Disambiguation page- such as Flower (disambiguation). In general you shouldn't be linking to them without a reason, and should instead link to the specific article you wanted. The Dab checker also shows circular links, which is what you had. I don't check which link it was for Dabs, preferring to leave it up to the nominator to know what they meant to link to instead of guessing, and as such I don't look where in the article the dab/circular link actually was. EL is indeed external links, as you guessed- the tool linked to in that box shows the status of each link. (good, 404 not found, 403 forbidden, journal subscription required, timed out, etc.) I generally fix links that redirect as a personal quirk, so that if they ever move the page again the link doesn't end up broken, but I don't think it's a requirement. For broken links I just tell the nominator, like I did with you, as you know what it was supposed to be.
Checking your articles with those tools is a good idea before nominating- it's nothing to oppose over, really, but its a bit of cleanup that should be done for any FA, especially the broken links. I don't think most people use the tools, though, so don't worry about it. I'm just picky. -- Pres N 03:30, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
What did they have to do here to get this image to stay?-- NYMFan69-86 ( talk) 05:40, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
I felt so bad looking at this page with its miles of unblock tags from 1.5 years ago at the top when every time I see you around the wiki you're trying super-hard to learn and follow every rule while writing important articles (and well) so I took the liberty of deleting the offending sections. (I saw that you don't like archives). If you don't like it feel free to hit the revert button, but I didn't want other editors to get the wrong impression of you. -- Pres N 08:19, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
That was a great comment at WP:Articles_for_deletion/Mossad_shark_and_Zionist_vulture. Enjoy your dog, but watch him. Closely. Seaphoto Talk 22:58, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
Replied on my talk page; I can't promise Featured Article but I'd love to help! Qrsdogg ( talk) 00:29, 7 January 2011 (UTC)