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On
3 October 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article NuvoTV, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that
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cable televisionnetworknuvoTV will see her work on the creative side of the network, as well as managing marketing and program production? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (
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Hey Zac! Sorry for not helping around, college has been keeping me busy. Anyways, I tried looking for the year-end charts, but the song didn't perform well-enough on Hot Latin Songs or Dance Songs to appear on the list and the Latin Pop year-end for 2007 doesn't appear on the site for some reason. If it's alright, I at least included info regarding the recording for the salsa version of the song, but I don't know if it's relevant.
Erick (
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It's alright. Me and Harold have been working at it. I didn't realize the salsa version was re-recorded! Of course it's relevant! Thanks for adding the info, I had no idea. Hope everything's going well!
Zac 02:30, 3 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Haha yeah well, if you ever listened to it, you could tell by the instruments and the added lyrics to the song. :P They used that version on my tropical/salsa radio station here in FL. BTW, I also added accolades to the song as well.
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Drive Award
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Hope you don't mind, but I
fixed the indentation of your comment in the oppose section of the aforementioned RfA. The numbering would otherwise have been thrown off by the bullet point.
Take care. =)
Kurtis (
talk) 21:10, 3 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Please explain to me a logical reason why that template needs to be atop the page. That page has only been edited 7 times today and nothing is major. The template itself says to remove it if the page hasn't been edited "in several hours", and you just want it to stay on the page permanently? That template is used when a user is making a major overhaul over a short period of time to avoid edit conflicts. It also says "If you are the editor who added this template, please be sure to remove it or replace it with 'Underconstruction' between editing sessions", which you neglect to do. (not that it really matters because no "major" edit appears to be happening) NYSMtalk page 23:54, 5 October 2012 (UTC)reply
You don't have to be rude. I just realized I added the wrong template.
Zac[on the go] 03:17, 6 October 2012 (UTC)reply
advice
Hey, I don't really know what to do here... Can i have some advice. People keep changing the info-box picture of the character article
Sharon Newman and also making other edits that aren't needed and they keep doing it, and they also keep using a
non-free promotional photograph for the actress,
Sharon Case's article. What should I do? They keep persisting. Please tell me what I should do. Thanks
—ArreJLover 03:36, 7 October 2012 (UTC)reply
I've reverted the image on
Sharon Case. If they add it again, I'd report them.
Zac 03:39, 7 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Thanks Zac. Yea, I think i will. I mean look at this:
[1]...so annoying.
—ArreJLover 03:41, 7 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Hi Zac. A while ago two additional tour dates were added to the Australian leg. It's not confirmed on her official website because they were added because of the overwhelming response to her initial planned shows. Even though it's not on her diary please leave it. Tickets are out. I bought three for the second added concert to Melbourne anyway..Lol.
—ArreJLover 09:38, 7 October 2012 (UTC)reply
That's not the reason they haven't been added yet, she's added second dates to the tour that are on the post. Her site is just a complete mess when it comes to putting out dates. Since the source is reliable (and not just the damn website where you can buy tickets, like some tried to keep adding), I think it's fine for the time being.
Zac 15:56, 7 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Kthanks.
Jennifer Lopez page looks nice with the musical artist info-box. :)
—ArreJLover 08:52, 8 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Get on GTalk.
Zac 08:53, 8 October 2012 (UTC)reply
I just got a new laptop... i haven't got Gtalk on it yet.
Jennifer Lopez page looks great apart from the "Image" and "legacy"....Btw, why can't you just use
this Legacy/public image? :\ i worked hard on it and it's better then the sections present. But i won't add it cause u'll just remove it. Sigh
—ArreJLover 06:15, 9 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Request for Peer Review
Hello. I have nominated the article
Because of You (Kelly Clarkson song) as a FA candidate. If you are willing, I would like to get your review of the article. Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks a lot. —
My December(
talk) 15:14, 7 October 2012 (UTC)reply
I have left a few comments. I will leave some more at a later time.Zac 16:16, 7 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Glassheart
What do you think of the snippets. I think its about 3/5. Some really strong songs but some not so. It needed more features I think. There's clearly something missing on some of the songs e.g. "Fireflies". Don't like the credits (the way they've been released!), haha I know it sounds petty but I hope they appear better in the album booklet! —
Lil_℧niquℇ №1[talk] 00:04, 8 October 2012 (UTC)reply
I think it sounds amazing! I've never really been a fan of Leona, but I started following her a bit after "Collide" came out, and then "Trouble" just slayed me. "Glassheart" sounds like the best for me (and yes, I've listened to the full version.) We'll see, they are a bit weird. Hopefully, they're a bit awkward.
Zac 00:07, 8 October 2012 (UTC)reply
I've been dying to hear the full version! How did you do that? I'm in love with "Un Love Me", "Fireflies", "I to You" and "When it Hurts"! It does sound like a proper follow up to Spirit. I'll pretend Echo was Leona's Born this Way. —
Lil_℧niquℇ №1[talk] 00:11, 8 October 2012 (UTC)reply
I love the whole album. Its her best by far! Could you comment at the discussion about critical reviews at
Talk:Glassheart if you get chance? —
Lil_℧niquℇ №1[talk] 15:57, 13 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Thanks
Hello Zak
Thanks a lot for the warm welcome, I'm also from Canada,... I'm from Kingston
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All the Years Combine
Greetings, Zac. I have reverted the name change of All the Years Combine -- for now, anyway -- and created a new talk page section about this at
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Thank you for your message. I have replied on the article's talk. I didn't see the change as being controversial. I probably should have explained the page move a bit better in the summary, and I will do that in the future. Thanks again.
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Mudwater (
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Hello Zac
Hi Zac. I just slightly changed some things on
Jennifer Lopez's Image and Legacy...before u revert, pls have a look ;). Thanks.
—ArreJLover 01:49, 14 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Image is looking good. Going through legacy, I'm noticing that some of the content is repeated earlier in the article. Starting on fixing it up.
Zac (
talk ·
contribs) 02:03, 14 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Ok . I also added Instruments: vocals and
conga. What is repeated?
—ArreJLover 02:04, 14 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Where's the source for the latter? And I'm not sure if vocals count as an instrument. You know where you should be right now...
Zac (
talk ·
contribs) 02:07, 14 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Forgive me i still need to download
Google talk on my new laptop. Do you have skype? Yes vocals do count as an instrument. I was going to source it but then how? I hate putting sources in info-boxes. We all know she plays them.
—ArreJLover 02:10, 14 October 2012 (UTC)reply
I do. First five letters of my last name, followed by a Z and a 28.
Zac (
talk ·
contribs) 02:12, 14 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Okay. Why did you split Legacy again. Too many headings. Just make it one section. I liked the wax figure pic in Image.
—ArreJLover 02:14, 14 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Just for the time being. It's easier to edit that way. Just removed it for the time being.
Zac (
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google talk is being such a bitch and it's not working *tears*. Can we pls go on FB even tho u dont like it.
—ArreJLover 02:22, 14 October 2012 (UTC)reply
You mentioned Skype. I gave you a DM on Twitter.
Zac (
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I'll become discouraged if you label my edits as vandalism :)
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Wat do u tink your doin protectng the page!!!!!!! HOW DARE U DO SUCH A TING! U VANDEL! IMMA GET CHU BL0CKD 4 DIS.
Zac (
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Hi Zac, sorry to bother but I need your help again. This person is at it again with
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—ArreJLover 05:28, 15 October 2012 (UTC)reply
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Pink Truth About Love Tour editing.....
Why have you reverted the information I changed on there? Pink is playing New York Madison Square Garden, along with the extra date at Munich... all of which can be found on the official truth about love tour site. So, when I add something please could you not change it? I didn't spend my time doing it for fun.
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Thank you for taking the time to participate in my RfA. I hope that I will be able to improve based on the feedback I received and become a better editor.
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re: m. 2012
the 'm' is redundant when he is already listed as her 'spouse', and yes i'm quite aware that 2012 is the present, but when people read it in a 1 year or 5 years from now, it won't be 2012 anymore, leaving present on there is an open ended way of saying they are still together.
Lady Lotus (
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It isn't 1 or 5 years from now. As I said, Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. "M" is not redundant. It's the proper way to list married couples. I don't know where you're getting your information from, but it's all wrong.
Zac (
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I'm not saying wikipedia is a crystal ball, I'm saying when people read it in a time thats NOT 2012, it needs to be "present" or changed if they get divorced. and yes, the 'm' standing for 'married' when he is her 'spouse' which only applies when people get married. it is A way to list married couples, but not in infoboxes.
Lady Lotus (
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There's no better way to explain this to you. If you don't get it, you don't get it.
Zac (
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Well I could explain it to you but I'll let the
Template:Infobox person do it for me. If you could look at the section where it says SPOUSES. But I'll skip you a step and quote it where it says "Use the format Name (1950–present) for current spouse and Name (1970–1999) for former spouse(s)". Anything more clear than that?
Lady Lotus (
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And you still don't get the concept of 2012 being the current year...
Zac (
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Still being 2012 has nothing to do with it, it's the proper format to use, there is no other way around that.
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A barnstar for you!
The Barnstar of Recovery
Hi Zac! We don't really do much together here anymore but I just decided to give you this barnstar because of all the rescuing you have done to many articles including
Jennifer Lopez-related articles. You saved many and even turned them into amazing articles. Your work on Jennifer Lopez: Feelin' So Good is a great example of this. You've taught me a lot, and I really appreciate you. Arre 04:36, 20 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Aww, thank you very much Arre! It means a lot to me! I've learned a lot from you as well! You know that's gonna have to change soon.
Zac (
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You're so welcome! :) Aw thanks. Yes it is! we never finished the On the 6 era articles. Arre 04:45, 20 October 2012 (UTC)reply
I need to finish up the last 3 songs articles from the Love? era, and then I will move on to other eras. We got to get "If You Had My Love" and "Waiting for Tonight" done. Also, I'd like for us to take her main article to peer review in December.
Zac (
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Oh, cool, which ones are you doing? Yes we do. By the way i was wondering, does Image go under artistry? Arre 05:03, 20 October 2012 (UTC)reply
"I'm Into You" (live performances is the only thing left to be added), "Papi" (a bit of expansion here and there) and "Fresh Out the Oven" (a little more expansion). No because artistry is a "creative skill or ability".
Zac (
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contribs) 05:05, 20 October 2012 (UTC)reply
ah, okay. Thanks for clarifying that with me. Hey, I was bored so i did some work on the 2002-04 section of
Jen's article. Have a look? I included info about her break-down. Hope it's okay. Arre 06:07, 20 October 2012 (UTC)reply
No problem. Looks good.
If you're ever so bored, how about trying to recreate the fragrance articles in your sandbox? I'm going to bed now; I'll talk to you later.
Zac (
talk ·
contribs) 06:26, 20 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Thanks. Yea, okay I'll think about that. I wish we still had the fragrance pages. Would you like me to re-write/fix the 99-2001 sec too? the dates are all kinda scattered/unorganized. Arre 06:34, 20 October 2012 (UTC)reply
No, it's fine, I got that under control. How about expanding the Choreography and music videos section? It seems a bit short. The length like Celebrity status and image would be ideal.
Zac (
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contribs) 06:37, 20 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Looking at the article again, I'm unsure why I've stated December. I have a five-day weekend next month. Seems like a good time to get the article up for peer review. And there really isn't much work left to do on the article.
Zac (
talk ·
contribs) 06:41, 20 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Okay. Yea sure I'll start gathering some sources about choreography and her music videos. Arre 06:46, 20 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Don't go too overboard on the music videos.
Just the main points of them, and mention of a few that are considered her most iconic.
Zac (
talk ·
contribs) 06:48, 20 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Think you can also find more for her musical influences, and add some of her acting (or dancing, or business, whatever) influences? The separate section is back!
Zac (
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contribs) 06:56, 20 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Amazing Pic
Hey, I saw this [File:Jennifer Lopez 12, 2012.jpg]. Do you think it's good for her info-box? I think it looks less awkward without her mouth open, and we can see all of her facial features. What do u think? Arre 12:00, 20 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Also, I slightly expanded Legacy. Hope that's okay... Please don't remove anything. I won't touch anything else..Lol. :) Arre 12:34, 20 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Really you were?, I wouldn't have expected you to create an article like that. :) I figured I would do it because the actor chart was removed from Burton's main page, because it was too large. I have been watching Tim Burton movies all this month, he's one of my favorite film directors. Whatever edits you want to make to the article, feel free. :)
QuasyBoy(talk) 20:03, 20 October 2012 (UTC)reply
That is beyond weird, I thought the exact same thing! I saw the David Lynch list, and I was like "Damn! I remember a list of that was removed from Tim Burton's article. I should do an article for it!". He is one of my favorites as well.
Zac (
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contribs) 20:05, 20 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Yep, the David Lynch list gave me the idea, too. :P What's your favorite Burton film, mine is Edward Scissorhands, no contest.
QuasyBoy(talk) 20:11, 20 October 2012 (UTC)reply
It was Alice in Wonderland, until I (finally) saw Edward Scissorhands over the summer. I was always a fan of his, but I had never seen his older movies until this summer when I watched a bunch of them.
Zac (
talk ·
contribs) 20:13, 20 October 2012 (UTC)reply
I heard Alice in Wonderland wasn't very good. I'm about to watch that and Dark Shadows, which I also heard was poor. I watched Sweeney Todd last night, its so good. :) But yeah, a lot Burton's older films are better.
QuasyBoy(talk) 20:20, 20 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Whoever said that needs to be shot in the face... it's a great movie. Yes, Sweeney Todd is so great. I need to see it again soon. I haven't seen Dark Shadows yet; the blu-ray will be on Christmas list. xD
Zac (
talk ·
contribs) 20:22, 20 October 2012 (UTC)reply
I'll take your word about Alice, then. :) I'll watch Dark Shadows and let you know what I think about it.
QuasyBoy(talk) 20:28, 20 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Would you like to nominate the article for FLC with me? (Of course, when it's done.) A better lead and recurring crew is all that appears to be needed.
Zac (
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OK, so I saw Alice. Visually its a great film, but besides that, there's not much going for it. Its just OK, to me. As for Dark Shadows, its alright, its a pretty typical Tim Burton/Johnny Depp collaboration. If you like their previous films together, you'll like it, but its nothing special. Now that I have seen every Tim Burton feature film, Here are my top 10 favorites of his. 1. Edward Scissorhands, 2. Big Fish, 3. Ed Wood, 4. Beetlejuice, 5. Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street, 6. Sleepy Hollow, 7. Mars Attacks!, 8. Batman, 9. Pee-wee's Big Adventure and 10. Corpse Bride.
I heard Frankenweenie was really good, it comes out home video in January, I'm gonna check it then.
QuasyBoy(talk) 05:44, 25 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Please stop I've seen you removing a lot of categories from album-related articles in a flurry and I can't figure out why. If you feel like something is wrong on a large scale, please bring it to
WT:ALBUM. If you choose to respond, please notify me with {{Talk back}}. Thanks. —
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Excuse me? Don't you dare talk down to me. If you don't understand why, that's not really my problem. If you think that if a studio album includes a DVD on its deluxe edition is a video album than you clearly aren't aware of what a video album actually is.Zac (
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I endorse the previous comment. A video album is an album which main content is made up in video format. An album with a deluxe edition including a DVD is not a video album by any means, it's just "a deluxe edition with a DVD". —
ṞṈ™ 16:50, 21 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Huh? How did I talk down to you? —
Justin (koavf)❤
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Particularly "If you choose to respond".
Zac (
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I have stroke out my comment, I was quite upset at the time, I do apologize. But basically, an album with a deluxe edition including a DVD is not a video album, it's just "a deluxe edition of an album with a DVD".
Zac (
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Video albums So if
In Time and
In View were sold together in one jewel case, then the latter would cease to be a video album due to packaging? —
Justin (koavf)❤
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If all formats of the release were together, than it would be, yes, it would be considered a "Greatest hits album / Video album" in the infobox. But if there is a standard edition and then a deluxe with a DVD, like Dance Again... the Hits, it is not considered as such.
Zac (
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Lana Del Rey
Hi. Persona's are key to careers. If they don't have sources, why don't you TRY to source them instead of removing them? That's lazy. Also, years are the years they were recorded, not released. That's kind of common sense. --
MrIndustry (
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They aren't, especially when most of them "N/A", which is impossible. I'm not obliged to look for a source, the person who wants them added is. None of the citations have sources for them being recorded in such a year. The released songs section calls of when they are released, so it has been consistent.
Zac (
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N/A = not available. --
MrIndustry (
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Hello Zac. I am just letting you know that I contested the speedy deletion of
List of unreleased Lady Gaga material, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: A copy violation from Wikipedia? .... no comment. See page history as well for attribution. Thank you. Theopolisme 21:54, 21 October 2012 (UTC)reply
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I did specify why I was removing that info from Britney Spears discography page, more specifically from her "Compilation albums" section on her Discography page, I will paste here exactly what I wrote in justification for the edit: "This section was a piece of s*** with many unofficial, unnecessary and uncalled for albums listed. She only has four official compilations/remixes albums, GH:MP, B In The Mix Vols 1 and 2 and The Singles Collection,", that section has boxes and special editions of albums which are completely a waste of space and 200% unnecessary information. A response on my page will be highly appreciated. Thank you!
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Hey Zac. I added a review for Glowing on its article. Hope it's reliable... Also, i left a few replies to u on my talk hope u see them when u get online, Arre 10:23, 24 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Hate to get into a revert war with you, so I opened up a section on the talk page to discuss it. I figured more sources is better, but it isn't set in stone or anything as a community consensus. ToaNidhiki05 02:46, 26 October 2012 (UTC)reply
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hey, is there anything that can make all the date formats of citations in an article the same? Arre 11:45, 27 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Britney on S&M Remix
Hi, Britney got credit as a feat. act on S&M Remix, please don't remove it again from her discography. There are many articles saying she got the credit for that, I will add it again with a source (
http://www.billboard.com/#/news/weekly-chart-notes-rihanna-katy-perry-paul-1005148452.story). As you can see the song charted as Rihanna featuring Britney Spears, then it is part of Britney's discography too. Thanks--
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Sorry, you weren't meant to be reverted. You were just caught in the crossfire of someone removing sourced information.
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OK, Thanks. I think that happened again. I added S&M Remix again. --
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Genie in a Bottle
Hey haha I did try to finish the "Genie in a Bottle" I think I lost motivation :) Would you been open to collaborating it and finishing it? -FeuDeJoie (
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Sure.
I was about to leave you a message about it, but I had to go for dinner.
Zac (
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Lotus
Not that it matters that much I guess but I think the list that you are basing all of the songwriting/producer credit off of isn't 100% correct. I think BMI is much more of a reliable source and Jamie Hartman himself tweeted that he co-wrote Army of Me with Phil Bentley, which matches the BMI listing.
http://twitter.com/jamiehartman/status/261220229043073025 His account is verified as well. + a second tweet he made says the Tracklacers at least co-produced the track yet they are no where to be found on these supposed "Sony" credits and neither is Phil Bentley.
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Reception
Hey Zac. Do you know where I could get reception info for
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Great job on the article! No, I don't. I haven't gotten around to looking for that era yet. Love? is almost done and then I want to focus on On the 6. Do you think you can focus on expanding the On the 6 era songs like you did on "I'm Gonna Be Alright"? We already have a great background section for that era, so the articles wouldn't need that much left. "
Feelin' So Good" is in pretty bad shape. Once the On the 6 era is done, I can't wait to get to J.Lo!
Zac (
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Yea I'll try; thanks. I was bored so i just decided to expand IGBA. Yes FSG isn't in good shape at all I'll start looking around for sources on that. I would also like to finish
Waiting for Tonight. Arre 23:23, 29 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Yup ofcourse Arre 23:47, 29 October 2012 (UTC)reply
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