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I'm ready to take a GA Review on (told you I would be able to get to it after the 11th...) if you're willing to nom it again.
Shearonink (
talk) 05:10, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
Anne Stanback
I don't understand why all the fuss over the infobox there. I wasn't canvassed. I feel like I must be missing some context.
Toddst1 (
talk) 20:26, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
Is it
your intention to bother as many people as you can with this this bullshit? CassiantoTalk 20:53, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
Fortuna, it looks like there is a bigger problem there with the infoboxes that I wasn't aware of. I've thanked Irie for the context.
Toddst1 (
talk) 23:20, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
The Three Revelations
I don't think they are long for the world, but we will see. Thanks for the redactions. -
Ad Orientem (
talk) 15:41, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
Thanks
Ad O- I saw your TP remark, and agree that it would be unnecessarilly harsh to AfD them immediately; on the other hand, the longer they were allowed in mainspace in the same condition they were deleted, the less motivation for them to be improved. Also, it might be an object lesson in what it precisely is that we object to. Cheers,
O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 15:57, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
Not sure if you're getting at the fact it could be considered an impersonation of Oshwah? I'm torn as the username is very similar, but I'm 99% sure that we'll see continued disruption after the current block expires which will make the impersonation moot -- Samtartalk ·
contribs 13:44, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
I was wondering why you hadn't responded yet. Darn bots; they're supposed to tell you I've started a review. =) Adam Cuerden(
talk) 02:26, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
Cheers
Adam, I've been almost totally inactive for the last month, but I appreciate you doing a bot's work for it!
O Fortuna!...imperatrix mundi. 12:37, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
Damn, I was going to link to WP:SARCASM and now you've cost me my chance; Please read
WP:SARCASM - it's a great humorous essay and also relevant here. Good advice that should always be followed to the letter.
Mr rnddude (
talk) 16:39, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
Yes. Doing that would be sooo useful. I mean reeeeally useful.
Nah, I hopped on the back of your comment and a slightly modified version of the comment
[2]. I rate it a 11/10 on the useful comments scale. I added some genuine content as well. It's not the first post of their I've called out today, see their post and my response
here Cheers,
Mr rnddude (
talk) 16:48, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
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No worries
Thanx for the clarity here:
[3] Don't sweat it. :) Also, if you weren't aware, the user who made a stink of this in the first place named
TheTimesAreAChanging (
talk) was a disruptive
WP:NOTHERE who had just been indeffed TBANNED from editing political pages
[4]. That decision was based upon serious violations of policy for, among other things, misrepresenting others like he did on that page and gaming the system. So whether your revert took that into account or not, good instincts on your part ;) Also, thank you for page protecting the article. Less likely he can use a sock or anon tactic to vandalize the page, etc. Take it easy! P.S. When I get home, I will try to make time and log into my account and thank you more properly (I try to stay away from unknown IPs when I'm out and about, to protect my account, etc.) TTFN
174.29.180.252 (
talk) 18:16, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
Oh dear, I'm guilty! Emir of Wikipedia, I was removing a discussion from your talk page to Bernard Lee's talk page as you were forcing a link to your talk page for people to go and read the pointless discussion before they participated in the actual fuc... oops, nearly, actual discussion on the Bernard Lee talk page. ...oh, happy editing! CassiantoTalk 19:02, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
I am thankful for you admitting to being guilty, however I think we should just move on from these misunderstandings and actually discuss if the infobox should be included or not. No need to go to ANI, or refactor anybody comments, or accuse them of sockpuppetry. Merely discuss if we think an infobox should be used in that article .
Emir of Wikipedia (
talk) 19:05, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
This is worse than pulling teeth...just go to the fucking talk page! CassiantoTalk 19:06, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
I am willing to go to the talk page of the subject in question, but I would prefer it if you actually discuss it there and don't mess with my talkpage.
Emir of Wikipedia (
talk) 19:10, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
Dear
TGpower, I'm sure are right. I'm sure Conway has and San Juan is. But Wikipedia requires a
reliable, third party, independent source for this. Everything, no matter how potentially controversial, in a
biography of a living person needs such sourcing- and I think you'll agree, such an addition as you wish to make has the potential to be controversial. Sadly so; but thus is the ways of this world. Does the information not get mentioned in any texts, papers, books, newspapers (as examples of what might be acceptable sources), at all? Thanks for the reach out.
O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 13:33, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
Heh, I tried to add some supporting references but, not having your sources at hand, couldn't do as good a job.
Shearonink (
talk) 16:39, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
Yes. I agree. Has spent quite some time on Wikipedia though. So it's surprising...especially as the editor put up a note at the Optional Rfa poll wishing to apply... Hope the editor gets clue soon. But hey, thanks again for pinging Sarah.
Lourdes 13:05, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
I suspect that the editor may be young, or non-English-native, even if he has been around for 6 years. --
Izno (
talk) 13:10, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
@
Izno: That could be the case; until
Lourdes mentioned it just there, I hadn't checked their stats and did indeed assume it was someone too young, as it were, for the job. The OPRC definitely explains why he tried to erase all trace of that discussion though.
MuffledPocketed 13:17, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
I think the ORCP is what spurred the closures, actually. --
Izno (
talk) 13:24, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
Izno To get a bit of admin-work under the belt? -I think that may have misfired, then!
MuffledPocketed 13:26, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
Interjection
For all your info, I am not "young" and a British citizen born and bred and have spent six years of my life constructively editing here. I respectfully ask for all of your cooperation and kindfully ask that you all desist from stalking me any further. Thankyou.
Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi The move of one of my old userpages (note: I used to edit under the name od Nordic Dragon) is unrelated to this issue. Feel free to contact
user:Jo-Jo Eumerus for clarification. NordicNightfury 13:31, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for your message here
Nordic Nightfury; such a willingness to communicate might have worked wonders earlier.
MuffledPocketed 13:36, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi: Please clarify you have read and understood the above statement that I have sent you, I kindly ask you to strike a comment that you have made. NordicNightfury 13:38, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
I'm not sure to which comment you are referring to. But, since you delight in calling other editors 'trolls' at the drop of a hat, I think we both know the answer to that.
MuffledPocketed
Thanks for the edit-conflict. A) You don't need to ping me on my own TP, I will get a message alert anyway, and B) your ping would not in any case work, as it was added separately to the time-stamp. Many thanks.
MuffledPocketed 13:45, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
"Or, this which is an attempt to move his TP to a sandbox.. and then requesting it to be speedied?". As I said above, it is unrelated to this issue, if you care to read the page history. NordicNightfury 13:48, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
The page that you keep trying to fully-protect? The one that you keep removing comments from half through a discussion? MuffledPocketed 13:53, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
No, the one I moved to my sandbox. As linked in your comment. Hmmm... NordicNightfury 13:55, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
I thought we had sorted this. Obviously not. The page in question,
user talk:Nordic Nightfury/sandbox is a page I moved from
user talk:Nordic Dragon, which is the pseudonym I last edited with, before being renamed. A user, by the name of Davidcouzens123; whom on 18th October, left a phone number on it. Jo-Jo Eumerus very kindly deleted the two diffs that it was on. Then you blame me because you thought it came from my new talkpage. Like I said, if you care to read, this is a different matter, therefore I reserve the right to speedy it. I therefore ask again, please strike your comment above which relates to this. NordicNightfury 14:14, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
OK, let's get this straight. You have the fucking balls to call other editors trolls and delete their comments, but you still think you have some sort of right to demand satisfaction?
MuffledPocketed 14:20, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
I apologised for using that term via RFPP. Now, I am ending this discussion here. If you don't have the audacity to admit you are wrong by adding a page totally unnecessary to this conversation I will take it higher. Goodbye. NordicNightfury 14:29, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
Yes, I think you probably should.
MuffledPocketed 14:31, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
Oh my lord...........
Lourdes 15:22, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
@
Lourdes: Yes, it was was all rather unfortunate really.
MuffledPocketed 15:33, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
Although for some more than others, it must be said; as is the way of these things.
MuffledPocketed 14:07, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
Or- not, as the case might be. Certain points of note were
[5] and
[6]. Unfortunately I never got around to commenting myself, there always seemed to be something else to do. As the fella says:
Turned Out Nice Again :) Happy Wednesday everybody!
MuffledPocketed 04:20, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
Do you want it re-opened? I appreciate that you were busy, although it seemed everyone had gone home. I was obviously wrong and I apologise if you wanted to make some, no doubt interesting points. Yours till the cows come home,
Irondome (
talk) 13:27, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
Cheers
Irondome, no worries it's fine. I'm sure the points I would have made are best left unmade, and the points that were made probably said enough. Thanks anyway,
MuffledPocketed 13:32, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
Yes, that last comprehensive comment on the thread was pretty devastating in any event.
Irondome (
talk) 13:42, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
Mmmm I could read that all day.
Irondome, changinging the subject, do you deal with copyright issues at all? Found an complicated one (for me anyway).
MuffledPocketed 13:49, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
yes it was rather err wide ranging My relationship to and fear of copyright stuff is akin to rabies. My first stop whenever such scary stuff appears on the radar is the excellent
User:Diannaa. What she doesn't know about this distasteful area aint worth knowing. Give her a bell.
Irondome (
talk) 14:00, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the help, wilco. Good luck
MuffledPocketed 14:07, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
You too! She is very good, so it should be a doddle.
Be seeing you. Simon.
Irondome (
talk) 14:13, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
Um, I thought that was a test edit. 95.49.111.234 (
talk) 13:28, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
@
95.49.111.234: a page of a sockpuppet that hasn't been edited in six months. Now why would that interest you I wonder. How did you find that page in the first place?
O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 13:32, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
Nice one from where I'm standing
Platypus, you could've been far blunter :) shall we wait until
c. 11:15 UTC tomorrow and see what the teaching actually involves? You've
posted while I've been typing this, btw- I agree with that too. Cheers,
O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 21:30, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
Yeah, I'll wait. Can you ping me when the CVUA page is up? Thanks.
ThePlatypusofDoom(talk) 21:35, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
I will, if I'm around, and if it goes up anyway- but,
ThePlatypusofDoom you know you don't need to take my advice- was just wondering what would happen (i.e., if they would listen to you!). But, we'll see, eh?
O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 21:37, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
I think he agreed to hold off for now (if not very willingly), but I'll stay off of his talk page for a little while, so he can calm down. If anything happens, I'll intervene if needed, but you should probably handle it for now.
ThePlatypusofDoom(talk) 23:26, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for explaining about Wikipedia:CheckUser!
FriyMantalk 07:57, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
A strange speedy deletion nomination
I was at first puzzled by the fact that you nominated
User:Jtsharpie7/sandbox for speedy deletion as an attack page, since far from being an attack, it was full of glowing praise and promotional hype about its subject. It then occurred to me that you probably clicked the G10 box in Twinkle by mistake, meaning to click the G11 one, which is of course right next to it. An easy mistake to make, and I have done similar things very often, but I thought I would just let you know. You may like to be more careful about always checking what you have actually done to a page after editing it. (Again, I am often guilty of failing to do that, so this is meant to be a friendly heads up, not a reprimand.) The editor who uses the pseudonym "
JamesBWatson" (
talk) 15:05, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
Many thanks
JamesBWatson, there's definitely a lesson there. That's exactly what happened- and I kicked myself a few minutes ago when I saw it in my CSD log- "BLP? What BLP?!?!" Thanks for the reminder though, it never hurts. Cheers!
O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 15:12, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
help with igloo!
I wanted to know if you could help me set up Igloo. The given instructions are confusing and mention something about a vector skin page!?
Besides this are there any tools to monitor possible vandal edits or atleast newedits. The new edit feed is too clunky -
Arkhaminsanity (
talk) 15:09, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
Sorry to 'summon' you,
Redrose64, but I'm afraid he lost me at 'Igloo'! Apreciate your input though.
O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 15:41, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
(
edit conflict) I believe that Arkhaminsanity is referring to the instructions are the big purple bordered box at the top of
WP:Igloo. I personally use Huggle as this is a super nifty anti-vandalism tool, but, either you need Rollback to use it or you have more limited use of it without it. One or the other. Twinkle I use for AfD, CSD, PROD and delivering warnings. There's also STiki which I have never used. Now for Igloo, I believe but am not sure, that the correct place to place the code is whereever the "your scripts page" takes you - for me it's "vector.js". The page may not exist if you've never used it, so you'll have to create source. Then just clear your browser cache - search how to do this on google if you don't know because the process depends on which browser you use. I've never used Igloo, so think of this as my I'm guessing and have no real idea if it works tutorial. I am willing to try this out as the guinea pig, will reply if successful.
Mr rnddude (
talk) 16:00, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
Click on the link entitled "your scripts page", it will redirect you to the most appropriate skin type for your PC or whatever. Create source and on the first line paste (ctrl-v) the following;
and then save changes. Then, clear browser cache - google how to do this if you don't know how. After that reload
WP:Igloo and in front of you you should have "Launch Igloo" front and centre. When you click on it wait a couple seconds or minutes for Igloo to load. Read the instructions/guide. On the left you should have the most recent changes, click on whichever one you want and a diff will appear. There is a red triangle for "revert" and a red "x" for delete - I assume CSD. Hope that helps.
Mr rnddude (
talk) 16:08, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
Huzzah! It worked! However, it demands rollback rights. Is this a glitch. I don't remember reading about rollbacker privileges being requires. Also, what tools can autoconfirmed users use to patrol edits? -
Arkhaminsanity (
talk) 16:11, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
Um, yes actually WP:Rollback is required; igloo has the following operating requirements: ... Rollback privileges (visit Wikipedia:Requests for permissions to get this). May I additionally recommend
WP:CVU for anti-vandalism help. I notice you're fairly new with something under 200 edits. They have a public questions forum here;
Wikipedia talk:Counter-Vandalism Unit. That might be a quicker way of getting assistance.
Mr rnddude (
talk) 16:24, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
(
talk page watcher) (
edit conflict) @
Arkhaminsanity: As Mr rnddude said, yes rollback is required. You may find
Twinkle useful in the meantime though. I'll keep checking in on how you're doing and once you've shown you've got the hang of anti-vandalism I'll grant rollback (or, if I forget, pop over to
WP:PERM or
remind me) -- Samtartalk ·
contribs 16:39, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
Samtar, while you're here would you mind deleting
User:Mr rnddude/vector.js for me? I created it to help work out how to access Igloo, but, won't be using it myself. Also, FIM, you have a point there.
Mr rnddude (
talk) 16:45, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
The smallest one that I've reviewed is
Marmion Tower at 7k bytes. I had a bit of Ritchie's input on it, but, nothing major. Which article are we talking about here? I saw your post on the GA talk page a little while ago, was trying to find it.
Mr rnddude (
talk) 17:07, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
Hi, just questioning your revert of the report against the edit-warring displayed by NightShadow23. Five edits in the past several days, reverting to add the same content. Just curious as to your reasoning, as I was thinking of fling a report myself before you did it yourself. Thanks.
Alex|The|Whovian? 04:47, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
Thank you
AlexTheWhovian. Feel free to re-report at any time; my revert was not a judgement on the strength or otherwise of the case. But I was on mobile at the time and I realised I would frankly not be able to load all the neccesary diffs required manually- as you point out, they go back days rather than hours. Remember to avoid e/w yourself and to emphasise the degree to which it is a slow-burning continuous reinsertion, etc. Cheers,
O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 05:39, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
No problems, thanks for that!
Alex|The|Whovian? 05:51, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
FYI to
@
AlexTheWhovian: The thing is, an SPI won't link an IP address to a named account- a form of outing I believe- so the case would have to rely on behavioural evidence alone. Which incidentally seems very strong! Good luck!
O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 04:45, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Barnstar of Diplomacy
Keep on saying the right thing and you'll go far!
Drmies (
talk) 22:56, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
Drmies Heh! Many thanks for that. I always thought it was 'Der-meeze' or 'Drr-Myers'... So I'll shut up then.
O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 04:36, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
Hi Fortuna! I have an issue with a IP user who claims that [
[7]] is grammatically correct, is it me in the wrong or him. Or am I being stupid? We seem to be debating it on my talk page. I would be grateful for some help. Thanks!
Qaei☎ 23:07, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
Why did this guy suddenly show up on my talk page? I'm kinda confused.
ThePlatypusofDoom(talk) 18:20, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
@
ThePlatypusofDoom:, yes it is verging on the bizaaaarre :) first of all he was impressed by your pun generator and illuminati kittens, and also wanted a counter-vandalism badge. To which I poked my nose in, and advised, in the interests of prolonging his wikicareer, that he got bollocked for the only mainspace edit he has so far made, and should consider improving that than getting barnstars. His userpage was full of facebook-style commentary, so I
speedied it as per NOTWEBHOST. He then complained to me on your page that it shouldn't be deleted (even going to
Requests for Undeletion over it!). And that is where it gets really obscure. Something about giving the
Illuminati five day bans from the MAX...? I apologise for polluting- and encouraging the pollution!- of your userpage. Take care!
O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 18:32, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
"Illumiati kittens"? I don't have anything illumanti-related on my user page...
ThePlatypusofDoom(talk) 18:34, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
Hello Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi, May you have success, prosperity, peace, love and good health on this
Chinese New Year. Here's to another year of productive editing. Sending you a heartfelt and warm greetings for this new year.
I appreciate the help on the
1st Weather Reconnaissance Squadron article, especially the additional references, particularly the article in Flying Magazine. I've been looking for things like that for years without finding much. I ordered the books from the library and found the magazine online, but can't put eyes on 'First Hurricane Hunters Blazed Bright Path', Observer: Public Affairs Office of Air Weather Service. Would you know where I can find that? Also, it looks like the article has been resubmitted for review. Would you have done that or did that happen automatically maybe? Anyway, thanks again.
Elephunk Ears (
talk) 19:50, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
Hi
Elephunk Ears, no worries. I noticed that you were receiving perhaps silghtly unclear messages about the thing- that's often inevitable with the templates we so often use around here- they're quick and easy, but of course they lack nuance or individuality.
Yes, that's exactly it. I was confused by the vagueness of "This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources." Once I saw your edits I understood what was needed.
Elephunk Ears (
talk) 01:15, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
Anyway, I've had all the tabs open that I used for the last 7 hours or so, in case you wanted them ;) so here are the online links- you get everything I used I'm afraid, whether you want it or not!
Thanks. I will use the warplanes book. I'm still looking for the 'First Hurricane Hunters Blazed Bright Path' article. Doesn't seem to be on any of those tabs. Could you check your history for it?
Elephunk Ears (
talk) 01:15, 19 January 2017 (UTC)I found that magazine and article online. Thanks for the tip.
Elephunk Ears (
talk) 07:48, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
Incidentally, how do you feel having a small final paragraph referencing the fact that the name of the squadron (if not the thing tself) was resurrected in the 1960s as a cover for cold war spying missions? -sources,
[8],
[9],
[10],
[11],
[12],
[13],
[14],
[15], and
[16]. You've got enough there for a whole new article, in fact!
O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 20:19, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
I wasn't aware of the cold war connection. I'll read through the references. Would you put that short paragraph at the end of the History section?
Elephunk Ears (
talk) 01:15, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
Ah- I hadn't noticed that new template. When that's added, it automatically goes up again. Actually, I think I deleted it when I edited the thing earlier, which just means someone noticed it was missing something and put it back. Since the article's pretty substantial now, we can
be bold and shove it into mainspace. Hold on.
O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 20:24, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
Great. It's up and running, though Google doesn't know about it yet and the Wikipedia search box doesn't recognize it either. I imagine it takes a while before a new article gets indexed. Now that it's live I can see a lot of places where I can improve it but that will have to wait a bit. I have to do some other things I've been putting off.
Elephunk Ears (
talk) 01:15, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
Hello Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of
Kovilangulam, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: There is sufficient context to identify the subject of the article. Thank you.
Primefac (
talk) 16:16, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
Just seen your edit to
Johnny Orlando - I had just posted on the talk page "if anyone would like to help please feel free to do so"! Thank you for your help.
Patient Zerotalk 14:15, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
I don't mind that at all! I appreciate your good deed. Thank you once again.
Patient Zerotalk 14:19, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
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Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (
talk) 12:50, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
@
Kudpung: Received and understood. Glad to see the backlog has fallen by 1K at least! Cheers,
O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 12:59, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
Here's one to watch
Luna Park, Scranton. The
WP:OWNER doesn't like the feedback I've presented, but the article spun out of control long ago. I'm suggesting reverting to some version from last October, but doing so will elicit a fury one can only imagine. At any length, it's worth some discussion. Cheers,
2601:188:1:AEA0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (
talk) 01:27, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
2601:188:1:AEA0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63, that is ******* incredible! Out thirteenth biggest article is about an amusement park that was open for ten years... a century ago?! (Thanks to
Art LaPella for the factoid!) Yep, the consensus seems pretty clear on that one eh.
O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 12:38, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
He also says the previous version was often inaccurate. So we could more likely agree on how long the article should be if we also agreed on correcting the inaccuracy.
Art LaPella (
talk) 15:20, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
Thanks
Art LaPella; I was thinking when I moved the recent additions to the talk page that the newspapers could be useful references for further additions. Also, it would be useful to know exactly how and to what degree inaccurate.
O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 15:23, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
Thank you both for your attention to this. Removing inaccuracies is welcome, of course, but if that was the original intent it was lost in an avalanche of trivial content. Cheers,
73.159.24.89 (
talk) 19:14, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
(Wow, that was unexpected--99 marvels at how capriciously his 2601 has become a 73)
73.159.24.89 (
talk) 19:16, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
Yes, it would be useful if Daves1 would elaborate on what is inaccurate; he hasn't told me.
Art LaPella (
talk) 20:49, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
I really do think the
WP:OWNERSHIP thing is not going to end well. I've reverted to your version, Fortuna
[17], in order to restore reliable sources and remove original research and conversational tone. Probably the editor will blow some steam in my direction, but this sort of thing can happen when someone takes control of a relatively obscure article for a long time, isn't held in check, and encyclopedic tone and sourcing be damned. Please keep an eye on this if you can. Thanks from 99,
2601:188:1:AEA0:587E:8905:7942:88F3 (
talk) 03:24, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article
English invasion of Scotland (1400) you nominated for
GA-status according to the
criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by
Legobot, on behalf of
Shearonink --
Shearonink (
talk) 04:02, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
Rather than put some vague tag on the article, please specifically state which sources you think may be problematic, & why, and then I will happily address your concerns. Cheers,
Pdfpdf (
talk) 13:00, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
@
Pdfpdf: if you insist. Weekend Notes = Not RS; Ross Smith Memorial collection = Not RS; Adelaide in photos = Not RS; Perry Snodgrass = Not RS. If you disagree, then
WP:RSN is your next stop. Incidentally, you can only remove maintenance tags after attending to the issues raised, which you failed to do. Happy editing!
O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 13:13, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
Ross Smith Memorial collection is State Library of South Australia. Why is that not RS?
As for the others, as I said, I will happily address your concerns. (I'm off to bed now.) Good night,
Pdfpdf (
talk) 13:55, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
Hello,
thank you for the review of the Soundart Chameleon page. Can you explain your comment ("looks like an essay")? I am not a native English speaker and I am not sure to understand correctly what it means.
If you have some guidelines to help me enhance the content, I would be happy to apply them.
Thanks
BB — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Bbkissb (
talk •
contribs) 12:48, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
@
Bbkissb: Well, walls of text and no references. But it's the references that are important; without them, it is difficult to ascertain the subject's notability. And without notability, the article could be deleted. Cheers,
O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 13:30, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
Your recent article submission to
Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by SwisterTwister was:
This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability. Wikipedia requires significant coverage about the subject in
reliable sources that are independent of the subject—see the
general guideline on notability and
the golden rule. Please improve the submission's referencing (see
Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners), so that the information is
verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is
notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. If additional reliable sources cannot be found for the subject, then it may not be suitable for Wikipedia at this time.
The comment the reviewer left was:
Not significant enough to satisfy its own convincing article, would be best merged to the group's article.
Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.
Your recent article submission to
Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by SwisterTwister was:
Based from what's here, there's not enough to suggest its own necessary article and anything can simply be merged
Nymphaea, where there's space, instead.
Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.
If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to
Draft:List of Nymphaea cultivars and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
Your recent article submission to
Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by SwisterTwister was:
This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability. Wikipedia requires significant coverage about the subject in
reliable sources that are independent of the subject—see the
guidelines on the notability of people and
the golden rule. Please improve the submission's referencing (see
Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners), so that the information is
verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is
notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. If additional reliable sources cannot be found for the subject, then it may not be suitable for Wikipedia at this time.
The comment the reviewer left was:
Current sources are still too trivial and notability cannot be instantly inherited from others; particularly focus with only the best major independent significant news in news publications.
Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.
If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to
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Your recent article submission to
Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by TheMagikCow was:
This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability. Wikipedia requires significant coverage about the subject in
reliable sources that are independent of the subject—see the
general guideline on notability and
the golden rule. Please improve the submission's referencing (see
Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners), so that the information is
verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is
notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. If additional reliable sources cannot be found for the subject, then it may not be suitable for Wikipedia at this time.
The comment the reviewer left was:
There are 2 main reasons here for the decline:
There are certainly lots of
primary sources about this topic. However, I can find no
secondary sources about the topic. To pass the
WP:GNG - the notability guideline for inclusion - secondary sources must be identified. This is the first issue here, and if none can be found unfortunately the article can't be included in wikipedia.
Secondly, there is inadequate sourcing in the article.
WP:REFB has some great advice and tips; but the basics are every non-trivial fact has to be sourced with a
reliable source. Here, only 1 source is given, and lots of content is unsourced.
I wish you all the best for improving this draft article.
Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.
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Oops! I don't know if a
boldMFD is in order here?
TheMagikCow (
talk) 14:23, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
Mmmm! No worries- not your fault- mine really for using AfC as a
second opinion ;) mind you, it is the place for drafts, so we haven't really lost anything. Thanks again! —
O Fortuna! Imperatrix mundi. 14:29, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
A cookie for you!
Thanks for the help and discussions :D Hopefully we will have more in the future haha.
P.S.
I didn't realize you were an patroller! How long have you been one for?
TheSandDoctor (
talk) 19:18, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
Declined speedy deletion nomination of Dead Cross
Hello Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi. I have declined your speedy deletion nomination of
Dead Cross as an article that does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the topic under
CSD A7. That criterion did not apply because having a notable member is a credible indication of "importance or significance". In fact
WP:MUSICBIO says that having 2 is a claim of notability (a higher standard than significance). This band has 3, as well as a notable former member.
Adam9007 (
talk) 17:27, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
Thanks for protecting my talk page. Having my own personal named stalker is something new for me. 7&6=thirteen (
☎) 14:19, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
@
7&13, thanks very much. Around here, I guess it's a sign you're doing something right! —
O Fortuna! Imperatrix mundi. 14:24, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
I've been harassed and stalked before. Been here long enough to make some enemies. But this was something a little different. 7&6=thirteen (
☎) 14:27, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
Yes, I suppose it's par for the course in your position; but they were rather persistent, weren't they. —
O Fortuna! Imperatrix mundi. 14:42, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
Not an admin. Just one of the spear carriers. New level of hostility. Whoopee. 7&6=thirteen (
☎) 15:36, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
I do apologise. Well this is certainly good training for it! —
O Fortuna! Imperatrix mundi. 15:47, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
I have unreviewed a page you curated
Hi, I'm Adam9007. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed,
Misha Mazel tov, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on
my talk page. Thank you.
@
DashyGames: I was scrolling down, saw this and nearly fell off my chair thinking that Fortuna was blocked and wondering why. That is, until I saw the April Fools line a good several seconds later and picking my jaw up off the ground - and that was with this not even being my talk page! Good job!
--
TheSandDoctor (
talk) 02:51, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
HaHaha, seems like this prank worked for other users, not just the one with the "block notice" xD btw Fortuna, did this work on you? :P --DashyGames(contribs) 05:48, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
Since there seems to be the potential for misleading people into thinking that users have been blocked, can I suggest that these prank block messages are removed,
DashyGames?
Cordless Larry (
talk) 07:18, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
@
Cordless Larry: thanks for this- I turned off my notifications for the day. Seemed to be the only way of avoiding the 'fun' :) archiving now. —
O Fortuna! Imperatrix mundi. 07:56, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for popping over
MarnetteD- you know I aim to please! Hope 2017 treats you and yours kindly, whatever crap the next year might be bringing!
O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 13:19, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
2601:188:1:AEA0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63, excellent- great minds thinking alike eh! I came to it via the chap who templated you. Bet you feel small now don't you, you IP you!!! I've got rid of most of the junk, and as my last edit-summary says, I attempted the copy-edit, but had to give up. It's a rather bizarre article. I find it hard to imagine it's not A7-worthy actually; what say you?
O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 15:29, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
For some reason the pings haven't been coming through. Which sort of corresponds with getting older and losing one's hearing. I'm uncertain about A7, would need to pore over sources at greater length. Some hits come up on a Google news search, but whether there's enough there to justify an article isn't yet clear to me.
2601:188:1:AEA0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (
talk) 15:36, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
Then again, given this history
[22], the lack of views for his Youtube videos, and the persistent re-creation of promotional bios, A7 may be just the thing.
2601:188:1:AEA0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (
talk) 15:52, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
Maybe even
WP:CSD#G4 then? It was it's most recent discussion after all... although years ago. Having said that, thanks to me sticking my nose in, I don't suppose it qualifies as 'sufficiently identical' now! The opeing line of the AfD is fundamental though- I have very strong doubts that the curator of one or even many art exhibitions is notable. I don't think much has changed.
O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 16:02, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
I don't know how similar it is, given the passage of nearly five years, and that we can't see the previous incarnation. I'd think a second AfD may be better, but who knows. You get a sympathetic admin (cough, cough, Drmies), and it may be speedied in a moment.
2601:188:1:AEA0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (
talk) 16:07, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
No, G4 doesn't apply, but A7 does. If that's declined, AfD.
Drmies (
talk) 21:22, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
Thank you
Drmies- does it now not apply due to my changing the article sufficiently to exclude it from the criteria, or, because it was the 'latest' discussion, but 'not the latest deletion? -if you know what I mean.
O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 21:28, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
No, their initial version was already different enough, esp. in terms of sources. I think there was some similar phrasing. Might I add that if you're in a deletionist frame of mind I'm not the best admin to ask; I'm on the side of content creation so I take G4 narrowly: it really needs to be the same content and the same (typically poor) sourcing for me to delete via G4. Thanks,
Drmies (
talk) 22:56, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
And as long as you're visiting,
Drmies, have a look at
Bearden High School (Tennessee), where I fought just to begin clean up on an awful athletics section, and got that accomplished only after hero admin NeilN assisted. The section is still a wreck, but I don't want to go near that article again. Ever.
2601:188:1:AEA0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (
talk) 17:15, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
Speedy deletion of draft page User:DylanB4/sandbox
Why was there a deletion of the page I created? It was made with referenced facts. No advertising. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
DylanB4 (
talk •
contribs) 03:44, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
Wry comment(s) re the reference you found ...
Regarding
[23], it talks of "Superstars in ... 1985". My God! That's now 30 years ago!! My memories of those guys are as they appear at the top of the page you found ...
Anonymous quote: Don't get old. When you work out how to do this: a) Please tell me how. b) Patent it.
Cheers,
Pdfpdf (
talk) 12:11, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
(BTW: There's (still) no sign of those statues in the Creswell Gardens ... )
@
Pdfpdf: Thirty years ago... woooo I was still reading comics and thoought Bergerac was cutting edge :( like that quote though!
O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 09:35, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
Follow up: I went for a wander around the
Creswell Gardens and the
Adelaide Oval on Saturday. I took LOTS of photos with my phone, some of which I've uploaded to
Creswell Gardens.
There was a HUGE, and extremely expensive - Aus$400,000,000 - upgrade (at taxpayer expense) to the Adelaide Oval a few years ago, and the areas closest to the Oval have changed out of all recognition!
It seems that the three promised-30-years-ago statues of the so-called football "heroes" actually do indeed exist - but not in the Creswell Gardens. (They're located south of the Oval.) Cheers,
Pdfpdf (
talk) 12:16, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
Dear Fortuna Imperatrix,
I thought the the 'Sandbox' was a draft section of Wikipedia and that clicking the 'Save' icon would save my work as a draft, it was never meant to be public yet, as it needs a lot of editing. I have to say the UI of Wikipedia is one of the clumsy efforts I have ever engaged with, maybe this is some kind of filter or test of the worthy. I think I will stick to peer reviewed papers.
Dear
Vocational samurai, thanks for the message. On the assumption you can find any peer-reviewed journals that would cover that, then you most definitely should. However, the fact remains that
WP:NOTWEBHOST means this encyclopaedia is not a personal forum, blog, bulletin board or advertising agency for one's own works, opinions, or general discursions. PS: If you could please sign future messages with '~~~~' (four tildes), that would adhere to policy whilst keeping both me and the bot happy. Happy editing!
O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 20:26, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
Václav Bolemír Nebeský
Thanks for reviewing the article about
Václav Bolemír Nebeský. Now it looks much better. I did not intend to write a long article, just some ten lines. As far as I know he is regarded as minor poet in his country. Perhaps now we should expand the article about
Karel Hynek Mácha who is considered the greatest Czech poet. (
Anagram16 (
talk) 21:37, 8 February 2017 (UTC))
It appears that you got this page deleted once already. I can't seem to find the discussion page tho. Shall i propose deletion?
Arkhaminsanity (
talk) 09:21, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
@
Arkhaminsanity:, thanks for the message. Yes I did, and yes, you probably should. I see it was deleted last time as
WP:CSD#G1 (advertising) and
WP:CSD#A7 (non-notable); although I can't remember how it exactly looked back then, it looks lke it's still those two things :) Good luck!
O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 09:29, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
Hello Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of
Showstudio.com, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: being founded by a notable person indicates significate. Plus there are RS about the subject. Also, I had already declined the speedy once, please do not retag but use
WP:PROD or
WP:AFD. Thank you. SoWhy 16:33, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
SoWhy. Please do not use big bad bold orthography here, my eyesight is fine. Personally I think I second opoinion was probably due (I hadn't noticed the previous speedy). But many thanks for the advice. Take care,
O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 16:36, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
The bold font is just part of
the script I use, I can't change that. If you still believe that an article with multiple RS about a subject that was founded by a notable person meets
A7, you might want to re-read the criterion's description as well as
WP:ATD (and maybe my
essay on this topic). Even if the subject weren't notable, policy dictates that it should never be deleted when it can easily be redirected/merged into an article about a notable subject. Regards SoWhy 16:45, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
A little bit of CDH twinkling would sort that script for you. I note it was also G11.
O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 16:48, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
Remember, any somewhat-seasoned admin will check if the article meets any (other) criterion before declining a request since it would be pointless to decline a G11 just so the next editor can tag it A7. So rest assured, I checked both when reviewing the first request and you can usually be sure that any other admin will do so as well. On a side note, if one or multiple experienced, non-involved editors edited the page without requesting speedy deletion (like
Timothyjosephwood and
Mean as custard in this case), it's usually safe to assume that they might object to deletion as well, so I usually will decline any speedy requests for such pages anyway (except when it meets G10 or G12). Last but not least, remember that there is no second opinion when it comes to speedy deletion. Once it has been declined, re-tagging the page might be considered
admin shopping (except valid G10 or G12 concerns that the previous admin didn't know about). Regards SoWhy 17:10, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
Your points are, as ever, lucid: it was still an advert though :D
O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 17:23, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
Or to put it another way, demonstrated that the kernal lacked notability :P On a lighter note, is there a way of comparing the sizes of different page revisions? A good example would be the non-advertorial advert we were discussing ;) but I was actually wanting to compare
here between
the current stage and
this revision. Obviously we can see the differEnce; but size, word-count, length?
O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 17:41, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
Lucky for you that you struck that, otherwise I would have had to lecture you about A7 not being about notability
As for the other question, I don't really know any such tool. You could use
WP:DYKcheck on both revisions though. Otherwise, maybe
WP:US or
WP:TOOLS contains such a script/tool? Regards SoWhy 17:58, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
For my own part, if it had sprung to life in the form I first saw this morning, I would have nominated for G11 myself. Unfortunately, CSD requires that no version of the article's history isn't disqualifying, and with a ten year old article, most of the time I just don't even bother. It's a better use of time to reduce to a stub than sort through every reversion in the article history.
TimothyJosephWood 17:37, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
@
SoWhy and
Timothyjosephwood:Mea culpa, please accept my apologies for wasting your time. I have to admit that, thinking it was a new article (started by the then-blocked Mustardcreams editor), I didn't check the history. I always look for BEFORE; and also the history, but in this case I slipped up. Ten years old! There's no way I would normally nominate that either. Sorry about that. PS: new question above :)
O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 18:00, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
Cool guy dat :) he made 'wet-on-wet' popular before it sounded fetishistic...
O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 18:10, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
Article has been copied
Hello fortuna. I found out that
Bethany High has almost entirely been copied from
Bethany official website
.
This article was once considered for deletion due to its notability. Because of this, i am confused as to what my next step should be.
hope you don't mind me popping in here every few days asking doubts
@
Arkhaminsanity: I've put the 'Earwig' copyright violation detector on your userpage with your other list of tools, hope you don't mind that. It is a useful and easy to use tool for detecting things like that. Now, funnily, if we run the
Bethany High page through Earwig, the result is
[24]- a 2% 'unlikely' result. How did you work out it was copied though?
O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 16:25, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
I simply copied some of the article and plugged it into google. Search results show the wiki page and the official website. The text was in bold and when i compared the two pages, i realized they were the same. The tool you mentioned doesn't seem to detect that. I'm even moreconfused now.
Arkhaminsanity (
talk) 16:28, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
Most of it was copied from
here. --
NeilNtalk to me 16:49, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
Thanks
NeilN- presumably that text is within frames or something. Mind you, I've had more obvious copyvios not picked up by earwig recently so maybe there's an issue? In any case, feel free to advise
Arkhaminsanity on the matter as I am currently working on two articles atm :p ;) You would surely be doing me a solid :D
O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 16:56, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
Just to close this, I've removed the copyvios and
revdelled all the article versions containing them. --
NeilNtalk to me 18:34, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
On my talk page under where it says your warning, I replied to it and they are questions on there that I would like to be answered. It would be respectable if you do.
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Second eye..
Would you mind taking a look at the numerous Asana articles contributed by MilenaGlebova1989.I don't think they are of any independent notability and probably was fit enough to be just mentioned at
List of asanas.(The same query was also put forward prev. by another editor and he/she prob. did not reply.)Any advice/help will be appreciated.Winged Blades Godric 14:28, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
@
Winged Blades of Godric: Well spotted. At first glance- I'd say you're probably right. Most if not all the sourcing is
WP:PRIMARY, with the odd mention in a paper, etc., here and there- but that might lack
WP:DEPTH. And as you say, they pretty much duplicate info either in the
List of asanas, or could be. It'll be a (Redacted) load of PRODS though ;) and a poor translation isn't really a reason for deletio in itself (see
WP:ATD-T). In any case I'm not competent to judge; it's certainly better than my sanskrit. But the purpose of these articles, according to
this, goes against an awful lot of
WP:WPNOT;
WP:NOTDIRECTORY AND
WP:NOTGUIDE spring to mind. A
previous attempt to discuss this this with the editor, which you noted went unreplied to, was by the august
User:Cyphoidbomb, before their
elevation. Let us summon them now...
O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 15:03, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
Yeah, I don't know what to do here. Does this require a wider discussion? Most of the ones I saw were just cookie-cutters with no clear independent notability as Godric notes. They could all be redirected back to the main list or something. That's gonna be a
ton of work.
Cyphoidbomb (
talk) 20:10, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
@
Cyphoidbomb: Mate, I was expecting you to arrive, leaping tall buildings in a single bound, etc ;) and sort it with a wave of the magic wand! But seriously- is it the quality of the articles that intimates a need for community discussion, or just the quantity of them? If we took it to AN/I, we would get not oly consensus (hopefully!) one way or the other, but also more volunteers to make the redirects. Thoughts? thanks for reply, btw.
O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 20:17, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
Hah, wish I were that skilled... If this were one article, I'd probably just redirect it, and I suppose it's just "one article" a hundred times, but I think I'd personally feel better getting some more input, and then, yeah, some extra help on the redirects.
Cyphoidbomb (
talk) 20:25, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
I agree: it would be better to fireproof it first. I'm more-or-less signing off for the night now, though, so won't be able to initiate much until tomorow (GMT). PS, actually
Cyphoidbomb a 158 times *help!* ;)
O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 20:30, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
Oh shit, there was a SECOND page?! Wow. Although some of them aren't asanas... We should probably make that clear.
Cyphoidbomb (
talk) 20:49, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
(
talk page stalker) Also, aren't some of the sources in
List of asanas rather non-
WP:RSsy? Not my field, not even close, so I can't really say what a reliable source for a yoga pose would be, but several of those look pretty spammy to me. --bonadeacontributionstalk 21:55, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
Well, I was wading through a majority of the Asana related articles and thought to ask whether some script/automation would manage to make a mass redirect of the spinoffs to the parent page. But those 4 on the 2nd page are prob. going to be a headache.Any thoughts on starting an AN/I thread and listen to as well as get help from more hands on the issue?Winged Blades Godric 16:02, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
@
Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi:--Well, I think the discussion at
WP:ANI is stale(Surp. it failed to attract a single participant save our's three!) and that it would be prudent to slowly delve in the mass redirection of those articles without hoping for some magic-script/advice to come to our help and take the burden off our back.How do ya feel?Winged Blades Godric 13:08, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
@
Winged Blades of Godric: Yeah I think yer right. We certainly didn't establish a consensus against our proposal anyway :) yo,
Cyphoidbomb, any objections 'administrationally' to our getting on with the redirects?
O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 13:13, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
I don't have a problem with it. The user who created the articles
has been notified of this discussion and
has edited since the notification. If they aren't compelled to respond, I don't know why anyone else should be. What remains is the divvying of the workload. I don't have tons of time to devote to editing in general lately, but I could commit to taking the last 52, so
#106-#158, reviewing them and redirecting them. Might take me a few days.
Cyphoidbomb (
talk) 17:59, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for getting back to us
Cyphoidbomb; right, How about we do ~50 each? -but on the proviso that if you want to drop it, due to RL / mop duties, we can pick up the slack? I'm sure @
Winged Blades of Godric: won't mind; he hasn't been jaded yet ;)
O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 18:03, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
I've given Milena another invitation to discuss. Let's wait a day or so before moving forward. This is the sort of thing that could really put someone off Wikipedia.
Cyphoidbomb (
talk) 18:05, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
I'd be happy to lend a hand with the reviewing/redirecting as well, if necessary. --bonadeacontributionstalk 18:08, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
With B. coming to our help, I would propose each of us four, taking about 40 each. I won't mind taking 1-40 of M. G's contrib. list. And well, we could wait for another day or so per Cyphoidbomb.Winged Blades Godric 07:52, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
@
Snow Rise:--Actually, I did 35 redirects to be precise.Now before our intervention by some reason/other he has himself redirected 17 of his pages to diff. venues.(Thus net redirects=35+17=52).The total of 158 that came up in our discussion was minus the initial 17 redirects.Hope this explains the increase.Cheers!Winged Blades Godric 14:15, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
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Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi:---Well, I thought that the prev. line(Oddly....) was prob. written by Snow(and unsigned) to which you responded.And accordingly I made my reply.That's what we call
Propagation of errors!Winged Blades Godric 15:16, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
I'm about halfway through. I've found that there were already a number of articles about asanas which to my mind violate both
WP:NOTHOWTO and
WP:MEDICAL, with very poor sourcing to boot, e.g.
Virabhadrasana I... but I'm not going to try to enlarge the cleanup effort, that way madness lies. At least the set of articles created by this user is very straightforward in that there's a cookie-cutter template and all the content that might be salvaged is already in
List of asanas. --bonadeacontributionstalk 15:19, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
Done Phew. Looking at all those images of people in various poses gave me a sympathetic backache! (And I am even more convinced that this was part of a walled garden around
Mr. Yoga. Some of the articles had two or three different references to his book and website). --bonadeacontributionstalk 15:40, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
Right... there's a few left for
Cyphoidbomb when he returns from the lofty heights of running the place <g>, but apart from them, that, as they say, is that. Classic clip,
Bonadea :D
O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 16:38, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
Yo
DatGuy, thanks for that. Look at where Legobot put the notice
[25] before I moved it. Although the barnstar did not have it's brackets closed properly; maybe that was why?
O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 17:56, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
And I've written whole articles since then. I don't know why I keep forgetting about this one- it keeps flying under the radar...
O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 17:58, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
@
Redrose64: You are so on the ball, it's incredible. But thanks very much for the info: I assumed that, if it was between me and the bot to mess it up, it would be me! :D cheers,
O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 12:45, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
A lame question...
I think you were the user who accepted
World Development Foundation from AFC and main-spaced it.But in a current deletion discussion, you not only stood for it's deletion but also supported a speedy.Just thinking about what prompted the change, when the content did not alter much throughout the years?Or I'm wrong somewhere?Cheers!Winged Blades Godric 18:21, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
P.S:--I know the acceptance of the draft was long back!Winged Blades Godric 18:21, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
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Godric: Well spotted :) I certainly think I'm more right now than I was then. The answer though, I think, is
here...
O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 18:43, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
Well as it is said--Good judgment comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgment.No doubt!Winged Blades Godric 04:39, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
Honestly...
Why does Curator even have an option to prod things in userspace if it's not eligible. I didn't even think to check. I figured it was tailored to the namespace since the CSD criteria available were.
That's dumb.
TimothyJosephWood 21:28, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
You're dead right,
TJW, it's happened to me in other places (webhost for drafts, maybe?) sorry about that though, not trying to show you up! Well, showing the curator up I s'pose...
O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 21:32, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
No worries. I feel like this may have happened to me once before, and it's rare enough where I suspect I will probably forget and make the same mistake again before too long.
TimothyJosephWood 21:36, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
Reference errors on 16 February
Hello, I'm
ReferenceBot. I have automatically detected that an edit performed by you may have introduced errors in referencing. It is as follows:
Hey FIM, just working through your excellent-as-always reports to UAA and noticed
this tag. Just thought I'd drop you a line letting you know that I've declined it only because the page had previous history (ie. a CSD notice) that ideally we'd like to keep. Instead, I've removed the promotional text :-) I've also blocked the editor and deleted their page. Keep up the good work! -- Samtartalk ·
contribs 08:25, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
You've gotta earn yer pay when I'm around <g> On a serious note, many thanks
Samtar for catching that, and the reminder, which never hurts. Cheers!
O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 08:32, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
Request for Comment on the guidelines regarding "joke" categories
Sir, I started a sandbox but you added tag for speedy deletion.
Can you pls tell me if I can work two sandbox together of one by one?
If possible to work on more then one sandbox then can you pls tell me how did you make this
/info/en/?search=User:Fortuna_Imperatrix_Mundi/Sandbox_III
It will be helpful to me,
Thanks.
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talk) 09:26, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
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Hello FIM. I wanted to let you know that you forgot to sign your post
here Sinebot may get to it but I wanted to let you know about it just in case. Cheers.
MarnetteD|
Talk 15:36, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
You are welcome. Things are ok - a little light snow here but that suits my ageing back just fine :-) I hope you have a pleasant weekend.
MarnetteD|
Talk 15:50, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
New user; first edit is creating a .css page plus script
Thanks for your review - I appreciate the feedback. I started writing articles about English folk music recently - my article about Walter Pardon was the first I've tried about a person.
I appreciate too your comment about references - however..... The youtube reference was to a video that I can't trace any information about, but it clearly exists. It contains interviews from people who knew WP and footage of the village he lived in, and I thought it relevant. Should I have left it out?
Are sleeve notes acceptable references? I've got some books, and there are some good sources available as ebooks, but sleeve notes written by experts seem to me as reputable as any other.
Best wishes,
Joe Fogey (
talk) 17:30, 25 February 2017 (UTC)