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What I will say (after commenting on the first and having to bite my tongue on the second) is that it will be very difficult for me to defend your actions in the future. In the first instance you revert out an editor's change to the status quo and BRD and general editing policies/guidelines supports you in this. In the second you revert back in an editors change to the status quo in what is already an amazing contentious subject whenever it rears its ugly head. BRD does not support this. Frankly for adding an infobox to a music-based article, especially in that genre, it will always be contentious. The community of infobox-arguers (on both sides) has shown over the years it is incapable of solving their disputes through standard discussion due to the entrenched positions, so a formal moderated !vote is the best way to keep the discussion civil. Only in death does duty end ( talk) 11:28, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
https://doc.wikimedia.org/mediawiki-core/master/php/DairikiDiff_8php_source.html
All the best:
Rich
Farmbrough, 20:04, 9 August 2017 (UTC).
All the best:
Rich
Farmbrough, 00:17, 10 August 2017 (UTC).
Hello, I saw on the Skills board that you could help with Lua. I am trying to copy {{ Q}} from meta to svwiki, but we don't have the function getLabel in any of our Wikidata modules. I tried to copy a part but it didn't work. Can you please help me? Ainali ( talk) 17:53, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
Hi RexxS, thanks for making the challenging point about references being the only indispensable skill for newcomers. Here's the study I drew upon when asking my own question: http://jodischneider.com/pubs/opensym2014.pdf Adamw ( talk) 15:41, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
Facto Post – Issue 3 – 11 August 2017
![]() Wikimania reportInterviewed by Facto Post at the hackathon, Lydia Pintscher of Wikidata said that the most significant recent development is that Wikidata now accounts for one third of Wikimedia edits. And the essential growth of human editing. ![]() Impressive development work on Internet-in-a-Box featured in the WikiMedFoundation annual conference on Thursday. Hardware is Raspberry Pi, running Linux and the Kiwix browser. It can operate as a wifi hotspot and support a local intranet in parts of the world lacking phone signal. The medical use case is for those delivering care, who have smartphones but have to function in clinics in just such areas with few reference resources. Wikipedia medical content can be served to their phones, and power supplied by standard lithium battery packages. Yesterday Katherine Maher unveiled the draft Wikimedia 2030 strategy, featuring a picturesque metaphor, "roads, bridges and villages". Here "bridges" could do with illustration. Perhaps it stands for engineering round or over the obstacles to progress down the obvious highways. Internet-in-a-Box would then do fine as an example. "Bridging the gap" explains a take on that same metaphor, with its human component. If you are at Wikimania, come talk to WikiFactMine at its stall in the Community Village, just by the 3D-printed display for Bassel Khartabil; come hear T Arrow talk at 3 pm today in Drummond West, Level 3. Link
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MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 10:55, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
Would you like to comment on my proposals on Wikipedia:Village Pump (Idea lab)? -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo ( talk · contribs · count) 08:10, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
Hi! I didn’t manage to talk to you at Wikimania until now, maybe tomorrow we could find a moment?! I need to use Lua on German WP for fixing and improving a specific template and wanted to hear an expert advice on the doability of the proposal. If not tomorrow, I will probably come back to it soon here on the talk page. Best regards, XanonymusX ( talk) 03:25, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
Hi Doug. The editathon you lead the training at features here..... and there are few pix of you too! Carol features and a great interview we filmed with Peggy. Hope you enjoyed Wikimania! regards Victuallers ( talk) 11:12, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
Hi, the main infobox image caption at
Solar eclipse of August 21, 2017 was unreadably tiny, so I made
this edit to remove the <small>...</small>
- but although the caption is now larger than before, it's still only 10.287px in MonoBook. How come it's smaller than the 11.176px of, for example, the caption of
Reading Southern railway station, which uses {{
Infobox UK disused station}}
? --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk) 22:39, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
Can you offer a bit of advice? I was trying to get an inline map to display on
Brighton Palace Pier (I've heard of people getting lost trying to find it from the station on foot, as if "follow the seagulls until your feet start to get wet" might be a clue) but {{
infobox pier}}
doesn't seem to want to do them. At the moment, I've hacked in {{
infobox building}}
as it does do this, but it throws out some of the useful fields on the other infobox, such as length (useful statistic for a pier, not so much for a building). Any other ideas what I can do?
Ritchie333
(talk)
(cont) 21:21, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
| map_image = File:Location map Brighton central.png
in {{
infobox pier}}
should work - I previewed it in a test edit at
Southport Pier, and it looked ok.
Robevans123 (
talk) 22:22, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
|extra=
that could be used. You could have fun having an inlaid map with an inlaid map, or just use the background on its own which can be cropped, scaled and shifted to taste. --
RexxS (
talk) 18:23, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
"the syntax for map images can be quite different in different infoboxes"
This is a ludicrous situation. we've resolved t for some other fields (images and "alt text" are pretty standard now). Is anyone up for working with me on standardising this? The first step would be to gain consensus on what is best pracice...
Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing);
Talk to Andy;
Andy's edits 11:24, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
Facto Post – Issue 4 – 18 September 2017
![]() Editorial: Conservation dataThe IUCN Red List update of 14 September led with a threat to North American ash trees. The International Union for Conservation of Nature produces authoritative species listings that are peer-reviewed. Examples used as metonyms for loss of species and biodiversity, and discussion of extinction rates, are the usual topics covered in the media to inform us about this area. But actual data matters. ![]() Clearly, conservation work depends on decisions about what should be done, and where. While animals, particularly mammals, are photogenic, species numbers run into millions. Plant species lie at the base of typical land-based food chains, and vegetation is key to the habitats of most animals. ContentMine dictionaries, for example as tabulated at d:Wikidata:WikiFactMine/Dictionary list, enable detailed control of queries about endangered species, in their taxonomic context. To target conservation measures properly, species listings running into the thousands are not what is needed: range maps showing current distribution are. Between the will to act, and effective steps taken, the services of data handling are required. There is now no reason at all why Wikidata should not take up the burden. Links
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MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 14:46, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
Yes, here we go. I can't find the carousel for my edit notice, to add MONGO glaciers. I do remember it's somewhere unexpected... but that turns out not to be enough. :-( Bishonen | talk 09:33, 17 September 2017 (UTC).
Hi! While our Canadian creation is now finished and working (at least on testwiki, I have to wait for TemplateStyles to be released in the other wikis as well before going live there), I just had to write a new module for another (music-related) template, because the old one reaches the template limit on de:Madonna (Künstlerin)/Auszeichnungen für Musikverkäufe. Now, de:Modul:Vorlage:AfM-Tabelle is already working, as tested on the talk page, but I can’t figure out how to give alternate colours to the rows (inside the loop, see line 41 of the module). I get why it won’t work like this, but can’t think of another solution (except for the one with TemplateStyles, using testwiki:Template:Chart.css). Do you have an idea on how to get it working? Thanks in advance and best regards, XanonymusX ( talk) 23:43, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
style=
" in lines 43 and 45. It's also best to make sure that the |-
markup for a new row begins on a new line, so include "\n
" just to make sure. Finally, I had to reverse the order of the striping to match the fixed first row colour. Anyway, I think it's all working now if the tests at
de:Modul Diskussion:Vorlage:AfM-Tabelle are representative. Keep up the good work! Cheers --
RexxS (
talk) 00:41, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for your recent edits on "
en:Hereford Arizona Observatory" - and the related "
d:Q40787894" (as well as your recent comments on the Village Pump at => "
Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Possible conversion problem?") - however - it seems that the altitude value no longer displays in the {{Infobox observatory}}
on the "
en:Hereford Arizona Observatory" page - Questions => is there some fix for this? - or maybe just leave the altitude value out? - in any regards - Thanks again for your recent comments and edits - and - Enjoy! :)
Drbogdan (
talk) 15:54, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
{{convert||input=P2044|qid={{{qid|}}}|ft|abbr=on}}
works if the value on Wikidata is in metres, but {{convert||input=P2044|qid={{{qid|}}}|ft|abbr=on}}
gives nothing if the value on Wikidata is in feet. I'm loathe to change the Wikidata back to metres as the source is US and it specified feet as the principal unit. I'd rather try to figure out why convert isn't working as I expected it to. However, if I can't fix it, then we should re-edit
Hereford Arizona Observatory (Q40787894) to restore feet. I hope you'll be prepared to bear with me for another hour or so, while I try to work through the code in
Module:Convert and its sub-modules to find a reason. I'll just bring this to the attention of @
Johnuniq and
Mike Peel: in case they have seen the problem before.{{#invoke:Wikidata|getUnits|P2044|qid=Q592248|FETCH_WIKIDATA}}
→ metre{{convert|input=P2044|qid=Q592248|m|abbr=on}}
→ 2,096 m (6,877 ft){{convert|input=P2044|qid=Q592248|ft|abbr=on}}
→ 2,096 m (6,877 ft){{convert|input=P2044|qid=Q592248|abbr=on}}
→ 2,096 m (6,877 ft){{#invoke:Wikidata|getUnits|P2044|qid=Q40787894|FETCH_WIKIDATA}}
→ foot{{convert|input=P2044|qid=Q40787894|m|abbr=on}}
→ 4,670 ft (1,420 m){{convert|input=P2044|qid=Q40787894|ft|abbr=on}}
→ 4,670 ft (1,420 m){{convert|input=P2044|qid=Q40787894|abbr=on}}
→ 4,670 ft (1,420 m)Doug, you now have access to the AfC helper script - if ever you need it for some reason or another. To install see Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Helper script. Chris ( Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 11:54, 26 September 2017 (UTC))
There is currently a discussion at
Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. -
FASTILY 23:48, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
Dear Rex
In the sight of Almighty God and Jimbo I do hereby and hereinafter solemnly authorize you add " Cc-by-sa-3.0" to any image where you feel I may have forgotten to do so. May the light of the Lord shine down upon you while you are doing this, and smite in a very unpleasant part of their anatomy anyone who questions your Divine authority to do this. Giano (talk) 11:16, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
Template:Infobox biosphere reserve has been
nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at
the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Ten Pound Hammer • (
What did I screw up now?) 00:13, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
Hi RexxS, As the Go-to-guy for the apocrypha of templatology, could you advise me on how to find which articles in a WikiProject use a template such as {{ for}}? Cheers, · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 18:47, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
WikiProject Scuba diving
is better than any shortened versions (e.g. WikiProject Scuba
) because it also finds all the redirects like WPSCUBA
and WikiProject Scuba
. I get 24 results – hope that's what you wanted. --
RexxS (
talk) 20:03, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
Dear Mr S
I'm trying to us Template:Infobox_biosphere_reserve in articles but its not displaying correctly, it just says [UNESCO Biosphere entry], any ideas?
Thanks
-- John Cummings ( talk) 14:52, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
|fetchwikidat=ALL
. The second problem is that almost all of the statements in
Great Nicobar Biosphere Reserve (Q5599625) are unsourced. WikidataIB is designed to filter out unsourced statements by default. I've updated
Template:Infobox biosphere reserve to accept a switch to modify that behaviour, so you also need to add |onlysourced=no
to each page where you want to import unsourced statements from Wikidata. Previewing {{Infobox biosphere reserve |fetchwikidata=ALL |onlysourced=no}}
now shows five items imported from Wikidata, although the layout is still a bit of a mess. Is that enough to get you started? --
RexxS (
talk) 16:50, 3 October 2017 (UTC)Do as you see fit. I will not edit in fear of your threat(s). Toddst1 ( talk) 21:57, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
Please advise. Testing486 ( talk) 10:50, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
https://github.com/OpenEdition/bilbo − Pintoch ( talk) 15:29, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
Possible solution found for the no ping plague. TonyBallioni ( talk) 00:26, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
Facto Post – Issue 5 – 17 October 2017
![]() Editorial: AnnotationsAnnotation is nothing new. The glossators of medieval Europe annotated between the lines, or in the margins of legal manuscripts of texts going back to Roman times, and created a new discipline. In the form of web annotation, the idea is back, with texts being marked up inline, or with a stand-off system. Where could it lead? ![]() ContentMine operates in the field of text and data mining (TDM), where annotation, simply put, can add value to mined text. It now sees annotation as a possible advance in semi-automation, the use of human judgement assisted by bot editing, which now plays a large part in Wikidata tools. While a human judgement call of yes/no, on the addition of a statement to Wikidata, is usually taken as decisive, it need not be. The human assent may be passed into an annotation system, and stored: this idea is standard on Wikisource, for example, where text is considered "validated" only when two different accounts have stated that the proof-reading is correct. A typical application would be to require more than one person to agree that what is said in the reference translates correctly into the formal Wikidata statement. Rejections are also potentially useful to record, for machine learning. As a contribution to data integrity on Wikidata, annotation has much to offer. Some "hard cases" on importing data are much more difficult than average. There are for example biographical puzzles: whether person A in one context is really identical with person B, of the same name, in another context. In science, clinical medicine require special attention to sourcing ( WP:MEDRS), and is challenging in terms of connecting findings with the methodology employed. Currently decisions in areas such as these, on Wikipedia and Wikidata, are often made ad hoc. In particular there may be no audit trail for those who want to check what is decided. Annotations are subject to a World Wide Web Consortium standard, and behind the terminology constitute a simple JSON data structure. What WikiFactMine proposes to do with them is to implement the MEDRS guideline, as a formal algorithm, on bibliographical and methodological data. The structure will integrate with those inputs the human decisions on the interpretation of scientific papers that underlie claims on Wikidata. What is added to Wikidata will therefore be supported by a transparent and rigorous system that documents decisions. An example of the possible future scope of annotation, for medical content, is in the first link below. That sort of detailed abstract of a publication can be a target for TDM, adds great value, and could be presented in machine-readable form. You are invited to discuss the detailed proposal on Wikidata, via its talk page. Links
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MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 08:46, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
Nice to meet you in Oxford last week. We were talking about the template transclusion limit being exceeded (or similar term) on Grade II* listed buildings in South Somerset and I'm sorry I didn't have tome to understand what you were saying about lua (or similar). There is an old discussion at Talk:Grade II* listed buildings in South Somerset#Content transclusion limit exceeded and I wondered if you had any more thoughts to add there about how to resolve the issue?— Rod talk 09:10, 22 October 2017 (UTC)