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Hi Mausam
Thank you for your response. I am a fan & not an expert in writing or editing. Initially, I had made changes in the edit but stopped as caution by Oshwah. The reason for writing Kalpana Filmography is for her fans. After more than 5 decades since Kalpana stop working, she is still remembered as the most beautiful actress of her era by her fans. It’s sad that most of her die heart fan remember her for 1 or 2 movies. So I collected info about her movies from youtube videos & IMDB. I do agree Writing is not my strong area of work. I only request to add her filmography. As Symmachus Auxiliarus mention in his message that "Note that IMDB alone can't be used to establish notability, in the Wikipedia sense of the word. " I agreed fact-checked can be done from the other sources like youtube videos. I can send you the link to verify the credentials of her work. I have edited the extra detail such as directors & co-star. I hope this is fine.
Filmography 1. Pyar Ki Jeet (1962) 2. Naughty Boy (1962) 3. Professor (1962) 4. Saheli (1965) 5. Teesra Kaun (1965) 6. Teen Devian (1965) 7. Biwi Aur Makan (1966) 8. Tasveer (1966) 9. Pyar Kiye Jaa (1966) 10. Nawab Sirazuddaula (1967) 11. Ek Bechara (1972)
Early life: She was also an accomplished Kathak dancer trained under Pandit Shambhu Maharaj. She was a good swimmer & Horse rider too.
Career: Nehru often invited Kalpana, a trained Kathak dancer, to dance at the Rashtrapati Bhavan whenever dignitaries visited. Actor Balraj Sahani and Urdu writer Ismat Chughtai spotted the beautiful dancer and encouraged her to come to Mumbai and try her luck in films.
References 1. The Unhappy Married Life of Actress Kalpana | Tabassum Talkies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kD6jv77cVdw
2. Pt.J Nehru Favourite Actress |News Filmy Hai https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB-oW_eDfC0
3. The IMDB https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0436200/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm
Thank you for your time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yashkkaryan ( talk • contribs)
Hi, Thank you so much for advice & resolving it. I really appreciate it. Youtube may not be 100% accurate but Times of India article on Kalpana Mohan has to be reliable as it is published newspaper facts & on basis of it Kalpana Mohan Wikipedia article is based, you can too fact check the link given in the Kalpana Mohan reference.
Since I cannot be attached a snapshot here I copy paste from the article "Kalpana Mohan was born in Srinagar on July 18, 1946. Her father, Avani Mohan, a freedom fighter, was close to Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru and an active member of the All India Congress Committee. Kalpana, who trained in Kathak, was often invited by Nehru to dance at the Rashtrapati Bhavan whenever dignitaries visited. She was spotted by actor Balraj Sahani and Urdu writer Ismat Chughtai, who encouraged her to come to Mumbai. Kalpana got her first break in the movie Professor in 1962."
Compare my changes which you can update now as fact are verified.
Early life: She was also an accomplished Kathak dancer trained under Pandit Shambhu Maharaj. She was a good swimmer & Horse rider too.
Career: Nehru often invited Kalpana, a trained Kathak dancer, to dance at the Rashtrapati Bhavan whenever dignitaries visited. Actor Balraj Sahani and Urdu writer Ismat Chughtai spotted the beautiful dancer and encouraged her to come to Mumbai and try her luck in films.
Filmography 1. Pyar Ki Jeet (1962) 2. Naughty Boy (1962) 3. Professor (1962) 4. Saheli (1965) 5. Teesra Kaun (1965) 6. Teen Devian (1965) 7. Biwi Aur Makan (1966) 8. Tasveer (1966) 9. Pyar Kiye Jaa (1966) 10. Nawab Sirazuddaula (1967) 11. Ek Bechara (1972)
I really appreciate your guidance & help for a beginner. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yashkkaryan ( talk • contribs)
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bold in editing and
do it yourself. You can also use a
draft space or
sandbox for practice editing and publish it when you think it is ready. Sincerely,
Masum Reza
☎ 20:55, 23 April 2019 (UTC)Hi, Masum Reza Thank you for your support & help. I have used the sandbox for practice editing and publish it for review. I hope my first article will be published soon. Thank you sir Yashkkaryan ( talk) 14:52, 24 April 2019 (UTC) once again for encouraging new users. Yashkkaryan ( talk) 14:52, 24 April 2019 (UTC) Yash Aryan
Hi, Masum thanks for your editing tips & advice. It will help me to write better for the future. Only change been made to "Career" her Filmography added in a logical sequence of release. Please check. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yashkkaryan ( talk • contribs)
Thank you, Sir, for your kind & encouraging words. It really means a lot to me as a person & as a new blogger. I did as per your instruction added the review in the Kalpana Mohan Page. The changes I made are not visible today?. It is back to the prior version. Is it my changes made are under review or were not approved. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yashkkaryan ( talk • contribs)
Thank you once again for the valuable tip. I have now added the cite source https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/news/Shammi-Kapoors-Gulbadan-Kalpana-Mohan-dies-at-65/etarticleshow/11433606.cms?referral=PM. you can check. Regards Yash Aryan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yashkkaryan ( talk • contribs)
Thank you Masum
Sir I have followed your advice writing in a neutral point of view and finding reliable sources in my case. Which I did the article of Times of India is a reliable source.
Sir, you deleted the line ” Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru often invited Kalpana, a trained Kathak dancer, to dance at the Rashtrapati Bhavan whenever dignitaries visited”. This line is a part of the newspaper article. It is the straight copy and pastes from the article. So the point why it is removed? It had not violated neutral point of view.
Sir if India 1st Prime Minister call you to perform at prestigious Rashtrapati Bhavan before Foreign dignitaries visited. It is indeed a great high in an Individual career. It is one of her career highlights. But you have deleted her achievement, Could you please explain it?
Also, Sir you had added an extra line, Which I quote “Her third film, Professor (1962), was successful. It starred Shammi Kapoor, who earned a Filmfare nomination as Best Actor. In 1965”
My objection is to the line “who earned a Filmfare nomination as Best Actor. In 1965” ” Sir does this line is a Kalpana Mohan achievement? Then why it is on her page. It can be an achievement for actor Shammi Kapoor so it has to be on his page or in the film, Professor (1962) page.
Sir can you please provide clarity on the above matter.
One more point I like to highlight does the Filmography I added differ from the name already mention on Kalpana Mohan Page. I have only added them in chronological order of release. I had already provided the link cite my source using a reference. Which I did but still you expect more reliable citation links. The link was not reliable?
Thank you, Sir, for your help. Yashkkaryan ( talk) 14:48, 26 April 2019 (UTC) Yash Aryan
Thank you Masum for your prompt reply.
I would like to apologize for my mistake as I did not read the full article. I did not checked Kalpana Mohan Earlier Life section as my changes were restricted to her Career. The point of trigger that you have deleted her achievement and added Shammi Kapoor nomination. Thanks for highlight copyright issue as well. Also, thanks for highlighting the mistakes. I always believe in Criticism makes you a better person. I can only hope User: Bbb23 had done the same, keeping the communication channel open. What you have explained is too technical for me.
Sir, I need to highlight one point that some movies are as old as 50 to 55 years so it difficult to get a newspaper article reference. But we can use common sense. Kalpana Mohan was an actress so she is visible in the movie. We can check her name in Movie credit list & in the movie itself. Since you are from India too, you can recognize her in the Movie. If needed I can provide you the Movie link too.
All movies names are mention on Kalpana Mohan page except Biwi Aur Makan (1966), Nawab Sirazuddaula (1967) & Ek Bechara (1972)
For which I am submitting a link newspaper Tribune India https://www.tribuneindia.com/2012/20120219/spectrum/main9.htm
The newspaper article include movies Professor, Saheli, Teen Devian Biwi Aur Makan, Pyar Kiye Jaa, Tasveer (1967) & Nawab Sirazuddaula (1967)
I provide you the link of Wikipedia detail will be reliable source too further strength my claim
For Ek Bechara (1972) /info/en/?search=Ek_Bechara
For Biwi Aur Makan (1966) /info/en/?search=Biwi_Aur_Makan
For Nawab Sirazuddaula (1967) https://www.cinestaan.com/movies/nawab-sirajuddaula-3492/cast-crew
Filmography
1. Pyar Ki Jeet (1962)
2. Naughty Boy (1962)
3. Professor (1962)
4. Saheli (1965)
5. Teesra Kaun (1965)
6. Teen Devian (1965)
7. Biwi Aur Makan (1966)
8. Pyar Kiye Jaa (1966)
9. Tasveer (1967)
10. Nawab Sirazuddaula (1967)
11. Ek Bechara (1972)
Masum you can add the above Filmography & if you need further clarification do reply.
Yashkkaryan ( talk) 20:34, 26 April 2019 (UTC) Yash Aryan
Thank you for the Wikipedia: Reliable sources/Perennial sources, It great help to find a reliable source. while I will find more news editorial as a reliable citation. The newspaper The Tribune article written by Devinder Bir Kaur on February 19, 2012 https://www.tribuneindia.com/2012/20120219/spectrum/main9.htm
The articles mention Kalpana Mohan movies names Professor (1962), Saheli (1965), Teesra Kaun (1965), Teen Devian (1965), Biwi Aur Makan (1966), Pyar Kiye Jaa (1966), Tasveer (1967), Nawab Sirazuddaula (1967) Could you please add these two names in the Kalpana Mohan Page as all above movie are mention except Biwi Aur Makan (1966), Nawab Sirazuddaula (1967)
Yashkkaryan ( talk) 20:57, 27 April 2019 (UTC) Yash Aryan
Masum you are genius I had more newspaper articles to support, A beauty's successful Bollywood stint', a printed article by Shri.V.Gangadhar at www.thehindu.com on JANUARY 19, 2012 https://www.thehindu.com/features/cinema/A-beautys-successful-Bollywood-stint/article13372167.ece
Kalpana Mohan movies names include Professor (1962), Saheli (1965), Teen Devian (1965), Biwi Aur Makan (1966), Pyar Kiye Jaa (1966), Tasveer (1967), Nawab Sirazuddaula (1967), Naughty Boy (1962) You can add these two articles in reference for reliable citation. Thanks
[3] Yashkkaryan ( talk) 21:54, 27 April 2019 (UTC) Yash Aryan
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just before your words. See my and other editor's reply's source code on my talk page for guide. This makes things easier. Sincerely,
Masum Reza
☎ 07:10, 28 April 2019 (UTC)Thank you so much.
While adding the name you have missed out to add the movie name Biwi Aur Makan (1966) into the list. The Tribune article written by Devinder Bir Kaur has explicitly mentioned about the movie in a paragraph. Just for reference, I quote from the article: “About the same time, Kalpana also starred in Biwi aur Makan opposite Biswajit. The movie was yet another comedy with Biswajit playing a woman in order to appease the landlady and rent a house with his bachelor friends. The landlady’s niece Kalpana becomes Biswajit’s love interest when he is in his real self as the "woman" Biswajit’s brother.”
Also, The article Shri.V.Gangadhar in The Hindu mentions the movie Biwi Aur Makan (1966)
Yashkkaryan ( talk) 19:26, 28 April 2019 (UTC) Yash Aryan [4]
Hi Masum, Thanks for all the work. I am still in search to find more news editorial for reliable citation. I am excluding blog, IMDB, Wikipedia, Cinetaan & Blogspot review but I came across Hindigeetmala site. The site contains exclusive information about the Movies in-depth coverage of film cast, music, singers & lyrics & appears more authentic. I understand Wikipedia: Reliable sources/Perennial sources cannot cover all
The Movie name: Picnic (1966) She is visible in the Kathak-based dance & her name mention in actors list. http://www.hindigeetmala.net/song/baalamavaa_bolo_naa_bolo_naa.htm
Also, in the Movie: Ek Bechara (1972) she did a special appearance cameo & her name mention in actors list. http://www.hindigeetmala.net/movie/ek_bechara.htm
Since in these two movies, she was not the leading lady so it is not mentioned in her earlier article submitted. I request can this be taken into consideration or I request you to suggest a way. Thanks Yashkkaryan ( talk) 21:11, 1 May 2019 (UTC) Yash Aryan
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