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Hi there. I thank you for issuing
this warning. I am the blocking admin for that account, so I was wondering if you could let me know of what IP address that you suspect that editor is using to
block evade. Let me know if you get the chance. Thanks!
Sergecross73msg me 14:05, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
Not absolutely certain and did not want to initiate an SPI, but seeing how Patricia CV just blanked the talk page it may be more convincing. It started with
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Radio Disney Music Award for Best Band, an article the user created, then dispersed into the various RDMA award years. They were specifically asked to comment on this creation but apparently declined. Recently an IPv6 had the knowledge/experience to specifically undo my removal of these entries, (see
[1] and
[2]), followed by a user making a comment
[3] and attempted to comment on the closed AFD. Although potentially unrelated, all of this is a bit on the suspicious side.--
☾Loriendrew☽☏(ring-ring) 23:12, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
Reply (removed infobox)
Hi, rather message you than get into a stupid editing war. My reason for removing the infobox on this page
link was that it, in my opinion is of very poor quality and could be done a lot better, if you disagree then so be it. My intention was to remove it until I had a better one as a replacement. apologies for the rushed response --JoshuaTaylor 02:18, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
Rather than remove, improve or fix the infobox. They exist and seemingly serve a purpose.--
☾Loriendrew☽☏(ring-ring) 02:25, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
Indeed. Remove this section if you wish. Regards --JoshuaTaylor 02:27, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
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I edited the entry on World Vision Australia by replacing the opening section. You rejected my edit, saying that I had not complied with the Style Manual. However you didn't say in what respect I hadn't complied, and unfortunately I can't identify it myself -- I did actually look at the Manual (I can't say I read every word) and I did try to comply with it.
This is the text I attempted to enter:
"World Vision Australia (WVA) is an ecumenical Christian non-governmental organisation based in Melbourne, Australia. It is a part of the World Vision International Partnership led by World Vision International. WVA is Australia’s largest overseas aid and development organisation. The majority of its work is directed to assisting overseas communities living in poverty, but it also carries out substantial work in Australia with Indigenous communities.
WVA is registered as a charity by the Australian Charities and Not-For-Profits Commission as a public benevolent institution. It enjoys tax concessions including exemption from income tax; and, as an endorsed deductible gift recipient, any amount donated to it by a taxpayer is deductible from that taxpayer’s taxable income."
I included a reference at the end of that text as follows:
Can you please tell me what is wrong with the text? — Preceding
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Do you have an association (work for, member of) with WVA?--
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Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences vs. Nobel Prize in Economics
in the article about 1982 you
reverted my correction on how to handle different prizes. I want to comment on that and will, if no counterargument is made until tomorrow, redo my changes. Please read the full comment first.
The reason you deleted the change was for me to gain consensus before editing the article in such a way. I don't think that is needed when I am correcting the article. Saying the Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences would be a Nobel Prize is not just wrong but ridiculous. Nobel himself stated not to like economists[1] (You just have to translate the first passage; I found no English newspaper on that; sorry)
Consensus is only needed on opinions, not on facts. Evidence for the prize not being instituted by Nobel is large enough (even Sveriges Riksbank and the Nobel Prize Committee state that) and thus I think that one should call this price by its name, The Sveriges Riksbank Prize in Economic Sciences in Memory of Alfred Nobel.
I apologise for any mistakes made because of me being a native German speaker. --
Senpai Dome (
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Update: I found an English article that cites
Agence_France-Presse AFP on that topic:
https://www.thelocal.se/20120102/2173 — Preceding
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On the English wikipedia (this place) there is an article titled
Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences which states: "The Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences, commonly referred to as the Nobel Prize in Economics" and if you continue reading the base article it shows how although not an original Nobel, it is awarded along with the others. When looking at other "year" articles, all of them list the economics prize as a Nobel. Changing the format of a single year is not constructive. If you would like to make this change please discuss and gain consensus over at
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Years which sets some guidelines on year articles.--
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