Hey mate,
Just wondering - what's going on with this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genghis_Khan/temp
There have been several requests for copyediting and merging with the main Genghis Khan article, and I was wondering if you might be able to shed light on why this was forked in the first place.
That may be able to help me re-merge the articles :-) Leave a message on my User talk:Splintax if possible. :)
splintax 14:11, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
You placed a comment about Genghis Khan on Wikipedia:Talk page. I'm assuming it was put on the wrong page by mistake, and I've removed it. You may want to retrieve it from that page's history and put it somewhere else. - gadfium 21:14, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
Letter by Steve Parsons, July 2002
In a review of Antony Beevor's 'Berlin: The Downfall' (June SR), mention is made of 'the greatest maritime disaster of all time', the sinking of the Goya by a Russian submarime with the consequent drowning of 7,000 refugees.
However, a disaster of even greater magnitude took place on 3 May 1945, when the RAF bombed and machine-gunned the German luxury liner, Cap Arcona, in the Baltic in the bay of Lubeck, south of the Danish island of Lolland. On this occasion 7,700 died, and what makes the incident even more grotesque was the fact that the victims were concentration camp prisoners.
At the close of the war a determined effort was made by the Nazis to kill the surviving concentration camp inmates by commanding them on forced marches away from the advancing Russians--the infamous death marches. Ten thousand prisoners from Neuengamme, a camp in the vicinity of Hamburg, ended up in Lubeck, where they were then ordered aboard the ship Cap Arcona, and fully expected to meet their deaths by being sunk by the Germans. Sighting British planes they were overjoyed, believing they would now be saved. Of course the British airmen did not know the ship was full of prisoners. Yet their fate has been allowed to disappear from the general historical consciousness, and instead it is the Russians who are given the responsibility for the world's 'greatest maritime disaster'.
Steve Parsons
Denmark
From A SURVIVOR : Benjamin Jacobs/Eugene Pool - The 100-Year Secret : Britains's Hidden World War II Massacre - The Lyons Press, October 2004 [1]
Hey GOP2, you might be interested in the discussion at Talk:Mizrahi_Jew#Requested_move. Cheers. Jayjg (talk) 19:35, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
Greetings, just a word to encourage your continued contibutions to the technology page. Please see the Talk:Technology page for other words of encouragement. Sincerely, Steven McCrary 02:07, September 11, 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for your excellent editing and link-adding to the "Life in the Pale" section of Pale of Settlement. Could you please add a reference to the statement, The Bolshevik Revolution of 1917 also resulted in some of the worst pogroms—over 900 of them—in which 70,000 to 250,000 Jews were killed. Thanks, Yoninah 18:03, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
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Just so you're aware, there's another attempt being made to remove the term "Conspiracy theory" from Wikipedia. You'll find the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Words_to_avoid#Summary. Jayjg (talk) 02:30, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for coming to the rescue there. It was getting a little heated and the other editor was saying that I was the one who had to discuss it in order to return it to its ORIGINAL form....unbelievable. Gator1 02:43, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
It interesting that your comment was (-rv incorrect summary of Laconia incident) when what you did was remove it completely. If your going to revert things you should atleast be honest in your edit summary. This looks like you are trying to remove it without saying that that is what you are doing. The US forces clearly broke with the rules of war and commited a war crime. Is it that you don't want the US being the bad guy's or is it you don't like Germans being the good guy's.-- Son of Paddy's Ego 17:35, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
'Hartenstein signalled to the pilot requesting assistance. Lieutenant James D. Harden of the U.S. Army Air Force turned away and notified his base of the situation. The senior officer on duty that day, Captain Robert C. Richardson III, replied with the order "Sink sub."'-- Son of Paddy's Ego 21:04, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
-- Son of Paddy's Ego 21:41, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
I am certainly not lying. You have reverted the page 3x over the last day, despite reversions by myself and Philip. I wasn't posting you to the 3RR board or anything, but you are not engaging in discussion on the Talk page over this, just in ad hominem attacks. Your changes are against consensus.
As for the two substantive issues. I don't think Matthew White is important as a person, but his page is a valuable bibliography and reference. Have you read it? Why would you want to delete it? It is directly relevant, and compiles many sources. Secondly, as for the Laconia incident, I hardly think that the two sentences you have indicate that there was a knowing massacre of POWs and civilians, otherwise, any bombing or sinking of a ship might qualify. See the consensus on the Talk page over the Cap Arconia. --
Goodoldpolonius2
21:42, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
hi, I've been looking through this guy's User contributions links and it looks like he has been attacking a few users here including you, and putting bias in articles. Is there something that can be done about this? John McW 18:21, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
Remember the good old days when you were asking me for assistance in mediation with Marsden? At that time, I thought it would be an easy matter to sort things out between you amicably. Now, I'm his primary target. Sigh. Jayjg (talk) 21:36, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
I added to Tibor Rubin Thank you for starting it!
FYI, I've expanded the article a bit more, specifically the part about the time of Visigothic rule. I hope you don't mind (I did incorporate some of your information, which I did not have). And added additional references.
Ex0pos 01:37, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
Hey, could you take a look at what the anon did at Ashkenazi? It was more of a replacement than a merge, and I think there was value in the old stuff. Jayjg (talk) 18:24, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
Hi Goodoldpolonius, please consider watching [2]. ← Humus sapiens ←ну? 02:56, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
Most editors eventually get to the backing away point when dealing with him; you just did it more rapidly than usual. :-) Jayjg (talk) 04:53, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
Sorry, Goldpolonius, but what have I done that you write this:
Scrolling down, I now see what you mean. I hadn't noticed. Sorry. I had seen only the upper part of the revert. And at that time this didn't seem to make sense. If you intended only to point me to that, than that's o.k., though maybe a message on my talk page would have been better. Str1977 21:50, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
Sry could not find your talk page
Regarding Blaiburg and nazi holocoust. The atrocities againnst Croats were committed mostly by chetniks converted in 1944- 45 in Partisans You have chetniks - Nazi colaborators, and racial ground on which they acted when they killed Croats. So Blaiburg is under the subject of nazi holocoust. My late grandfather was Croat partisan in WW2 on costal front and he used to tell me that Croat partisans, which ware majority in 41-44 era, used to send units to Slavonia in 45 to protect Croat civilians from so called Chetnik partisans who committed numerous atrocities against ordenery Croats.
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Dear Polonius, please note that I have no intention to get into this discussion. I did one revert which was a mistake. I only saw the upper paragraph that was changed, in which Ustasha was mentioned in Poland. I did not see (forgot to scroll down) the second paragraph with the figures. Please don't mention me in edit summaries in regard to this. My user page, BTW, is User talk:Str1977. Good day. Str1977 14:01, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
Apologies accepted. Note that, if I happen to post something not logged in (which I'm trying to avoid, but sometimes PCs mess up things), my IP starts with 132. Cheers Str1977 19:15, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
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-- Bash 22:21, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
GOP, while I appreciate your attempts at mediation, I'm doubtful they will help. Saxet seems to be all about making assumptions about various editors POVs, and editing and commenting based on those assumptions, interspersed with various personal attacks. He also also knowingly made false accusations about me (that I used a sockpuppet and two admins confirmed this), and seems to be modelling himself on HistoryBuffEr, one of the most persistently POV and disruptive editors Wikipedia has seen in the past year. I'd love to give him the benefit of the doubt, but the signs are very bad, and there's no indication anything will improve. Jayjg (talk) 03:36, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
Did you get around to adressing the last FAC objections so we can resubmit this to FAC? -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 15:44, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
Please see my question at Talk:Romania_during_World_War_II#Citation.3F. -- Jmabel | Talk 06:43, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
GOP, would you mind taking a look at a dispute I'm having at Holocaust Denial? I'd appreciate it. Jayjg (talk) 21:43, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
Hi Gop2. I thought you might be interested in improving the Religion in Israel article. Cheers. Jayjg (talk) 22:12, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
From what I understand Hitler felt by becoming a Mason one "sold out" and higher up Masons were willing members of "the Jews conspiracy".
So early on he banned all Masons.
However some continued to practice in secret.
Those who were willing to continue to practice in secret though were often also those who were willing to undermine Hitler.
Hence people would be arrested not usualy for being Masons but for other activities like dissent.
However it was frequently if not always noted that these people were Masons when their punishments was decided.
grazon 03:23, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
Off the top of my head I know of a death in Italy but that's all I can think of.
check the link I placed on the article.
grazon 03:53, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
Hi there! While I will not insist on inclusion of a link to Szare Szeregi into an article on the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising, the organization was indeed relevant to it. Before the Uprising it was the Szare Szeregi guys who served as links between the Jewish resistance and AK, RGO and the outside world. Also, during the fighting the attempt to break the wall and was carried out by an Szare Szeregi assault group. Halibu tt 06:41, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
Yes there ware such opinions, such articles were published in Rzeczpospolita- a respectable polish daily.This of course doesn't excuse or justify the crime but is given as one of the reasons behind it. You can read it here : http://wiez.free.ngo.pl/jedwabne/article/22.html A fragment :
Did Jedwabne Jews, like others, cordially welcome the Red Army incursion? The accounts recorded during the war as well as those I obtained at the start of the 1990s indicate that this was indeed the case. First, accounts submitted to the army of Gen. Anders and archived in the Hoover Institution, and now also available at the Eastern Archives in Warsaw. Account No. 8356, recorded by cart maker Józef Rybicki from the town of Jedwabne: " The Red Army was received by Jews who built arches. They removed the old authorities and introduced new ones from amongst the local population (Jews and communists). The police and teachers were arrested..." Account No. 10708, recorded by a municipal government employee in Jedwabne, Tadeusz Kiełczewski: "Right after the encroachment by the Soviet Army, a municipal committee was spontaneously set up, composed of Polish communists (the chairman was the Pole, Czesław Krytowczyk, and the members were Jews). The militia also consisted of communist Jews. At first there were no reprisals, because they did not know the population. The arrests started only after local communists had provided the necessary information. Local militiamen searched the homes of people they felt were concealing weapons. The main arrests by the Soviet authorities only started after the first elections." Account No. 8455, recorded by a locksmith-mechanic from Jedwabne, Marian Łojewski: " Following the incursion of the red army, first an order was issued for all the weapons owned by the local population to be turned in. Anyone who held back would face the death penalty. Next, searches were conducted in various houses, and that as a result of accusation by Jewish shopkeepers who accused Poles of stealing different goods from them in their absence. The arrests took place of many people against whom local Jews had held grudges over having been prosecuted by the Polish State and over their persecution." Account No. 2675, recorded by wood sorter Aleksander Kotowski of Jedwabne: "I was not present when the red army entered. Admitted to the authorities were Jews and Polish communists who had done time in prison for communist activities. They led the NKVD to apartments and houses and the denounced patriotic Polish citizens." And finally, the account given by Łucja Chojnowska, née Chołowińska, on May 9, 1991. Mrs. Chołowińska, the sister of Jadwiga, whose married name was Laudańska, found herself in the spring of 1940 in a partisan camp at the Kobielno forest range, situated amidst the Biebrza Marshes. During a battle between Polish partisans and the Soviet army on June 23, 1940, she was captured. Our conversation, which took place in Jedwabne, pertained to that battle, not the situation in the town both women had formerly lived in. Nevertheless, in the course of the conversation, Łucja Chołowińska-Chojnowska said: "In Jedwabne, inhabited mostly by Jews, there were only three houses that had not displayed red flags when the Russians marched in. Our house was among them. Before the first deportation, a Jewish woman, a neighbor lady (we had got along with the Jews very well) ran over and warned us we were on the deportation list. Then my sister Jadwiga, her child (a four-year-old girl), and I fled to Orlików, taking along only some clothing." Let us note that the Jewish neighbor lady knew who was on the deportation list, even though that was the most closely guarded of secrets. -- Molobo 23:29, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
The mentioning of collaboration during Soviet times did indeed provoke harsh responce.I have nothing against mentioning that. Notice that neither responce denies the collaboration instead trying to attack Strzombosz, not his arguments or examples he gave. -- Molobo 23:38, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
Since I see you are a bit interested in Nazi Germany during WW2 and topics involved with Jews. You wouldn't know a good listing of all German units involved in massacres in WW2 ? Almost all entries on Wiki are without this information. Perhaps you would like to look at Waffen SS also-current entry is a bit "enthusiastic" so to speak at certain points...-- Molobo 23:59, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
Your call came in high time :) It's tha I'm currently working on adaptation of my pre-WWII Poland map to WWII reality, that is I'm working on a map of General Government, Reichskommissariat Ukraine and so on, with ghettos, concentration camps and mass murder sites marked. However, I'm not sure when the work will be completed as I also owe Piotrus one map for his Polish-Muscovite War. Halibu tt 11:47, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
GOP, it has been discussed more than once, most recently at [5]. "History of Jews in" is not the common way of titling articles on ethnic groups; rather, the article is titled after the name of the ethnic group, and a history section discusses their history. Jayjg (talk) 05:22, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
O.K., the proposal can be found here: Template_talk:Jew#Name_of_articles_on_Jews. Jayjg (talk) 07:52, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
Our one-topic editor made a deceptive edit that you probably missed there. Jayjg (talk) 22:41, 31 October 2005 (UTC)