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AWB
Matt asked me to post the template on the user talk pages of the participants, and it got me thinking - what should I do with AWB edits? I don't want to mark them minor if they are in fact not. —
neuro(talk) 20:59, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
Well, for example if I do additional editing inside the program, but I can imagine other situations as well. —
neuro(talk) 01:24, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Happy New Year
Dear Garden, I just wanted to wish you and your family a happy new year, however you're celebrating it. Whether 2008 was a good year for you, or if it wasn't the greatest year, hopefully 2009 will be better. Cheers, and happy editing in 2009 :-),
Hey there, Fox! Happy new
Gregorian year. All the best for the new year, both towards you and your family and friends too. I know that I am the only person lonely enough to be running this thing as the new year is ushered in, but meh, what are you going to do. I like to keep my templated messages in a satisfactorily melancholy tone. ;)
"(Undid revision 259488947 by Blankfrackis (talk) -- Blogs aren't for the external links section)"
Just looking for some guidance here as you reverted an edit, but is there a section where blogs are added? The justification for adding that was that there's a forum (AFC Chat) in the external links section, so I figured blogs are of a similar standard - same with fanzines like The Red Final, though I don't know if they have a site that can be linked to.
Blankfrackis (
talk) 03:55, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
"Anthony's a sex symbol. You see the thing is for the girls they're like 'oh Anthony he's so beautiful! And his muscles and his hair and oh golly he's so sexy!' but with me its like [with men] 'DUDE YOU'RE SO AWESOME...WOW DUDE. WOW!" -
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Warning?
May I know the reason of this warning?
[1]. I no way I've insulted User:DIREKTOR. On the other side I've received insults, by other users. Show me where I did some error. Thank you.--
Barba Nane (
talk) 13:09, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
Mr. Garden, if you do not have proper evidences that the anon user it's me, do not post this kind of warnings. That user is based in south America (it seems so), I am in Europe. If you think I am a sockpuppet of user:ragusino, report your concerns and ask a checkuser. I ask you to remove your message. You will repost it when more evidence about me will be provided. Thank you.--
Barba Nane (
talk) 13:19, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
Mr. Garden, for the second time. I have not posted personal info about Direktor. The info were posted by an anon contributor, based in South America. I am in Europe, so I've posted no personal info. I again invite you to avoid this warnings, without evidences. P.S. I've not asked you about the SP. Thank you.--
Barba Nane (
talk) 13:35, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
Mr. Garden. May I kindly ask you to provide evidences for your accuse? The correct procedure is the check user, anyway you seem sure about your claim. May i know the reason? I'm based in Europe, Ragusino is in South America. So, please...--
Barba Nane (
talk) 13:40, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
WikiCup
Slightly confused about how I should go about adding stuff to my submissions page. Is
this correct? –
JuliancoltonTropicalCyclone 05:51, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Go on IRC, please. ayematthew @ 14:08, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Garden, I need you to go on for a little while. Please go on ASAP today. ayematthew @ 19:24, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Excuse, me. It says that Pool G people have no points when yesterday, I had 1.01, could you take care of it or check on the bot to see if its working right, also, there are no decimals on anyone's score now. Thanks,--
What!?Why?Who? (
talk) 00:04, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I'm the bot programmer. I looked at your edits and here is the calculation for your score:
6 major edits * 0.1 points = .6
3 minor edits * 0.001 points = .003
0.6+0.003=0.603, which rounds down to 0 when the bot chops off the decimals. I don't know why you would have had 1.01, but if you give me a link to that revision of the table or if you update your submissions page with any dyks, itns, or featured stuff then the bot will fix it next time it runs.
ST47 (
talk) 14:28, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
Bot request
This bot request may interest you. It is very similar to the WikiCup that you are organizing. Would appreciate if you can add your comments to the bot request page. Thanks,
Ganeshk(
talk) 03:33, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Signature
A little disagreement which went too far that I'd rather forget.
Hey, Garden. I saw the thread on Pedro's talk page earlier today and was pulled away from the computer before I could post a message. You quoted part of the guide on Pedro's talk, but I don't understand where you got the impression that the fourth bullet point highlights the two main reasons not to transclude a template as a signature; or why you think it's appropriate, particularly as an admin, to completely disregard the first three bullet points as if they don't even exist. The guideline found at
WP:SIG#NT, it says:
Transclusions of templates and parser functions in signatures (like those which appear as
User:Name/sig, for example) are forbidden. There are several reasons for this.
Signature templates are vandalism targets, and will be forever, even if the user leaves the project.
Certain automated scripts (bots) are used to automatically archive particularly active talk pages. These bots read the source of the talk page, but don't transclude templates, and so don't recognize the template as a signature.
Signature templates are a small but unnecessary drain on the servers. Transcluded signatures require extra processing--whenever you change your signature source, all talk pages you have posted on must be re-cached.
Substitution of templates in signatures is also not allowed, as any such template either will violate the reasonable length restriction of 255 characters or will be redundant to using the same content as a raw signature.
Simple text signatures, which are stored along with the page content and use no more resources than the comments themselves, avoid these problems.
Note that it says such signatures are forbidden for several reasons. Can you please explain how the other reasons do not apply to your signature? Regards,
لennavecia 02:04, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
Re
this. Sigh. You really do have an issue with me Garden, which is suprising given our previous positive interaction. Why don't you consider that when we ask IP editors not to replace articles with "lol teh gay" we are asking them to comply with both policy and guidelines? You're an admin. If the guidleine is busted fix it. Until then abide by it. I can't understand this. Yes, the debate is pathetic and a waste of time - but the onus is on you to either not substitute your sig or fix the guideline. I'm astonished you can't see this. Pedro :
Chat 21:38, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
I most certainly do not have an "issue" with you. Absolutely not. That would be like the Pope having an "issue" with God, for need of a better hyperbole. Look, I've fixed the guideline per
WP:BRD. I did not do this before as it seems to be a blatant way of "winning" this debate, as it were. I really, really do not want something so trivial and so moronic to come between us.
Garden. 22:12, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
Hideous analogy - most ediors think I'm the
anithesis of God :) However what you've done was the point. Fix the guideline, or abide by the guideline (I didn't alter it because I wasn't in breach of it). Others can input if they don't like the
WP:BOLD bit of your BRD. I apologise if this seems likes an argument I want to win - nothing could be further from my mind. Again apologies, I just want you to understand I'm not doing this through some petty mindedness DRAMA creation - simply that whilst
WP:IAR is good we do have some rules for a reason. BTW - a happy New Year to you and your family and I assure you this is not the footing I wanted my new year to get off on. Pedro :
Chat 22:24, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
Neither. I'm just sorry I hadn't thought of BRD sooner. Otherwise we'd have had a much smoother discussion. My heartfelt apologies for the whole incident. Happy new year to you as well.
Garden. 22:49, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
Featured picture sets?
How does scoring work with featured picture sets? (Rare, but they exist, and I'm likely to have a big one by the end of March: I just got a couple historic volumes of
Gustave Doré) --
Shoemaker's Holiday (
talk) 21:59, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Even if it's >100 high-quality scans?
Shoemaker's Holiday (
talk) 22:12, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Well, obviously I don't expect to get a full 30 points per picture. =P But it does take quite some time to prepare it all.
Shoemaker's Holiday (
talk) 22:14, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Fair enough. I mean, it may not even actually happen: If not all the images get used, then...
Shoemaker's Holiday (
talk) 22:17, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
WikiCup question
I'm just curious about how you determine who will be in which pool? I'm currently setting up a similar challenge for only U.S. and Canada road articles. --Rschen7754 (
TC) 06:41, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
Happy Birthday Garden! Enjoy your day, and if it's possible, come on IRC for two minutes (ping me when you are on). Happy Birthday! iMatthew //
talk // 14:15, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Spencer has had 1 successful "In the news" nomination.
From the Judges
This years WikiCup started off great! It's only the second full week of competition, and we already have a lot of content promoted. We have some very close pools, such as Pool A and J. We also have some pools who have not been very active yet, but hopefully that will start changing in the coming weeks.
Garden and iMatthew have also opened a new pool, the "Judge's Pool" where we are competing against each other and following the same rules as all of you. This pool however, will never have any effect on the actual competition, but you can still check back often to see how we are doing compared to yourself.
That's it for this newsletter edition, everyone. Any questions or comments are always welcome on the WikiCup talk page, or our user talk pages. Until next time,
Garden. and iMatthew //
talk // 13:55, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
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Current leaders
In this round of the WikiCup, the top three contestants from each pool will advance to the next round. As of this newsletter, the current pool leaders are:
Pool A
Catalan (138)
Gary King (86)
Spencer (67)
Pool B
Sceptre (22)
Spittlespat (7)
Greatestrowerever, Malinaccier (6)
Pool C
Candlewicke (60)
Scorpion0422 (24)
Steven Walling (9)
Pool D
NapHit (27)
ThinkBlue (18)
97198 (11)
Pool E
X! (69)
Sasata (10)
LOTRrules (4)
Pool F
Bedford (29)
RyanCross (21)
the_ed17, Howard the Duck (5)
Pool G
Sunderland06 (46)
Skinny87 (16)
What!?Why?Who?, Pedro_João, Ceranthor (2)
Pool H
Juliancolton (133)
Tinucherian (41)
Ottava Rima (28)
Pool I
Durova (144)
Theleftorium (121)
Wrestlinglover (15)
Pool J
Paxse (78)
Climie.ca (67)
Useight (46)
All scores are accurate as of the time the newsletter was sent out.
I think there's been an error— I got a successful FP nomination,
here, I don't think it's included in my score.
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Interviews
Hey there! I noticed you added your name to the Signpost Wikiproject Report beat. I have two questions for you:
Would you be interested in alternating weeks? I have a report ready for the next edition, so that would give you two weeks to prepare one of your own.
Cool beans. The way I go about it, I use the following step-by-step process:
Find a WikiProject that seems interesting. Ideally, the project should currently be active and should not have been interviewed before. I'm trying to complete
this list to make it easier to figure out, among other things, which projects have already been interviewed.
Figure out who in the project you want to interview. If you're lucky, there's a lead coordinator or a project manager or something like that. If not, I usually look at the histories of the project page and the talk page and click on Revision history statistics. From here, you can see which members are most involved in maintaining the project pages. You could try just posting a message on the project talk page and asking who wants to be interviewed, but I've never had success with that method.
Ask if s/he wants to be interviewed! Fairly straightforward,
here's an example.
As for the interview itself, I just use a workspace. I'll usually post 2-3 questions at a time, as it seems faster than asking one question, waiting for an answer, then asking another. However, I do try to avoid asking questions whose relevance is dependent on how the interviewee responds to an unanswered question. For example, I wouldn't ask "How did you become interested in editing
pornography articles?" and "Why did you join
WikiProject Pornography?" as the user could easily answer the second question while answering the first. For this reason, I always like to start off with a simple "So, tell us about yourself" kind of thing.
And that's all there is to it! --CrypticC62 ·
Talk 23:18, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
Wow, you guys are racking up the DYK's fast! Good articles are also coming in quite quickly, and we also have a few new Featured articles. This is coming along great so far; we're glad to see almost everyone working on something.
Also, Thehelpfulone is our newest judge. He will, starting Monday, be helping maintain the WikiCup and help us ensure all runs smoothly. It's hard to gain consensus between two editors, so I guess "majority rules" (with three people) will start to apply while we make our decision. :-P
In this round of the WikiCup, the top three contestants from each pool will advance to the next round. As of this newsletter, the current pool leaders are:
Pool A
Catalan, Gary King (191)
Spencer (127)
Pool B
Shoemaker's Holiday (112)
Sceptre (34)
Spittlespat (9)
Pool C
Candlewicke (182)
Scorpion0422 (72)
Steven Walling (16)
Pool D
97198 (79)
NapHit (29)
ThinkBlue (25)
Pool E
Sasata (91)
X! (69)
Straight Edge PXK (6)
Pool F
Bedford (55)
RyanCross (31)
the_ed17 (24)
Pool G
Sunderland06 (104)
Ceranthor (34)
Skinny87 (17)
Pool H
Juliancolton (230)
Tinucherian (64)
Ottava Rima (28)
Pool I
Durova (319)
Theleftorium (196)
J Milburn (65)
Pool J
Climie.ca (101)
Paxse (97)
Useight (81)
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WP:MPRP
I saw your comment in
Wikipedia's main page redesign proposal. I'll be frank, it's been going on since July and we have had some serious internal conflicts, however (and at long last) I believe we're on the verge of finishing it. There only a handful of issues remaining, but we need involvement nonetheless. I would greatly appreciate your help, but it's entirely up to you. What do you think?
ChyranandChloe (
talk) 03:59, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
WikiCup Newsletter
I noticed that there is one of these going out to the participants. Would it be possible for non-participants (namely myself) to receive a copy at publication as well? -MBK004 06:32, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, done as you suggested. -MBK004 23:51, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I notice that you created this page for the selected picture; well, it seems the picture itself has been deleted at commons, so no picture actually appears when it's this one's turn. I'm useless with all the technical stuff, so could you stop this page appearing as a "selected picture"? Best, – Toon(talk) 15:23, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Statement
Hey, my user page says I'm retired which I'm not officially. I just placed that up instead of the busy template. I'm going to be offline for a week or so. I'm still participating in the cup, just I will not be editing much in the next week or so. Unless a few things change and I have enough time to edit again which is the main reason I'm retiring for a week or so. Just wanted to tell you so I'm not removed from the competition. God Bless and nice talking to you.--
WillC 05:33, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
Okay, I'll try. Hopefully I'm back in a week or so.--
WillC 20:09, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
Thank you Garden for voting in my successfully closed RfA! I'm glad that you trust me. Ping me if you need anything! Best regards, --Kanonkas :
Talk 18:28, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
DYK review of Papaya mosaic virus
Hello Garden. I'm sorry but I had to countermand your DYK approval of
Papaya mosaic virus. The article was submitted after the five day deadline that we require of all new articles. Please remember when reviewing articles that submissions must be made on time or we can't accept them. Thank you.
Nrswanson (
talk) 22:28, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
No worries. I made the same mistake earlier today with my review for
Mozart in Italy. When I caught my mistake on a second readthrough it made me check the others.
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Hey Garden, I just came across the WikiCup and I'm disappointed it's too late to join. Keep up the great work. I was thinking though, why not make it a team competition, with teams based on US state, country, whatever? Thanks, Grsz11 02:19, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
MOTD interview
Hmm. It's not really a Wikiproject, but it would definitely make for an interesting interview. It would also provide a nice change of pace for anyone who's tired of reading about Wikiprojects. Go for it! --CrypticC62 ·
Talk 02:10, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
No worries. A word of advice, though: In the future, consider starting the process earlier than 2 days before (what you assume to be) the deadline. Plan for a one-day turnaround for each set of questions. In other words, once you post questions, it will take at least a day for the interviewee(s) to respond, for you to notice, and for you to post another set of questions. Now that we'll be alternating, I'll probably start my next interview in the next few days, so I'll have a full 2 weeks to finish the process. --CrypticC62 ·
Talk 23:28, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
WikiCup featured picture points
Please see my comment. Although, I'm guessing the biggest barrier is actually coding the change into the bot. But, it would be very nice for everyone if this change could be made. I've been talking to Durova about it, and she still would like to do it rather than decreasing the point value for everyone as it demotivates people from working on FPs. Gary King (
talk) 03:55, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Quick question...
Just curious, where exactly are these
templated leads? I haven't seen them :P
jj137(talk) 19:15, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
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MOTD
I could try. How would this interview be done exactly? Or was it to be done for the last issue?
Simply southnot SS, sorry 11:22, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
Actually just quickly, how long answers do they need to be?
Simply southnot SS, sorry 18:19, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
The content is continuing to pile in, it's great! Nothing significant this issue, but we currently have a straw poll going on regarding the point values of featured pictures, sounds, and lists.
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WikiCup At a Glance
As of this newsletter, the WikiCup participants have collected a total of:
In this round of the WikiCup, the top three contestants from each pool will advance to the next round. As of this newsletter, the current pool leaders are:
Pool A
Catalan (254)
Gary King (215)
Spencer (150)
Pool B
Shoemaker's Holiday (189)
Sceptre (35)
Spittlespat (10)
Pool C
Candlewicke (250)
Scorpion0422 (146)
Steven Walling (29)
Pool D
97198 (89)
ThinkBlue (37)
NapHit (31)
Pool E
Sasata (140)
X! (105)
Straight Edge PXK (9)
Pool F
Bedford (101)
the_ed17 (40)
RyanCross (32)
Pool G
Sunderland06 (107)
Ceranthor (67)
jj137 (50)
Pool H
Juliancolton (355)
Tinucherian (71)
Ottava Rima (28)
Pool I
Durova (462)
Theleftorium (264)
J Milburn (88)
Pool J
Climie.ca (135)
Paxse (134)
Useight (116)
All scores are accurate as of the time the newsletter was sent out.
17:28, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
My FPs
If you like, I'm willng to not include any FPs that I haven't done extensive work on. I mostly do my own work, but sometime, I like to promote the works of others that I find particularly impressive.
Shoemaker's Holiday (
talk) 21:28, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
WikiCup
Stressed out, taking a Wikibreak, back in a week or two, hopefully. Way in lead of pool, might at least give them a chance to catch up.
Shoemaker's Holiday (
talk) 19:30, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
MOTD Interview, v3.0
Sure, I'd be glad to. I haven't been terribly active lately, unfortunately, but I do still pop in on occasion. I'll go answer the questions now.
Hersfold(
t/
a/
c) 00:00, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
MOTD Interview
It would be my pleasure. I'm glad that a story is being written in the Signpost; it might help bring some more people to the team. I hope I'm not the only person you're interviewing, though. There are alot of good people involved.
Nutiketaiel (
talk) 13:23, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Cool. I'll do my best to keep an eye on it, but what with the current Snow-pocalypse, I'll be pretty busy with work so i may not get to it right away. When does your story go to print?
Nutiketaiel (
talk) 20:43, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Incidentally, if you're looking for more interview subjects, you should ask
La Pianista. She's at least as active as I am (probably more, but my ego prevents me from saying so), and makes better mottos than I do.
Nutiketaiel (
talk) 12:59, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
MOTD interview
Done My section is teeny compared to the others' interviews, I hope it's adequate. I'm not the best at writing long tomes about what I think of things :)
TopGearFreak 20:01, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
RE: =
Done My section is smaller than TGF's. But, I hope that is will work. Thanks for the interview! SimonKSK 20:58, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, I was caught up in some other things. Thanks! SimonKSK 17:24, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
MOTD interview
Thanks for asking me! Sorry for the late response - I didn't know I had to post here as well. :) It was fun.
—LaPianista(
T•
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