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Classification of tornadoes by intensity
A strong tornado is classified as EF2 or EF3. Referring to a tornado that has either not been rated or is not EF2 or EF3 is factually incorrect.
SalmonSalmonSalmon (
talk) 19:00, 26 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Please don't act like I'm clueless or something. I know what a strong tornado is classified as and there are reports, videos, and pictures indicating that these were strong tornadoes. If I put violent, I'd understand, but there is nothing wrong with saying a tornado was strong when there is clear evidence of it being one. Please stop changing the summaries; it's annoying.
ChessEric 19:05, 26 May 2024 (UTC)reply
If there is evidence of it being EF2 or EF3 then it should be provided. Both violent and strong are both examples of words that specifically refer to a certain intensity with violent being EF4+ and strong being EF2 or EF3.
SalmonSalmonSalmon (
talk) 19:11, 26 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Again, reports indicate that these were strong tornadoes. I see no problem with adding that in the summaries.
ChessEric 19:23, 26 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Nowhere in the reports do they indicate that they are strong. We have to wait for the surveys to come in before we can make a judgement rather then speculating on the rating ourselves.
SalmonSalmonSalmon (
talk) 19:28, 26 May 2024 (UTC)reply
I thought you might say that, but I'm not at all speculating. News reports, spotter reports, and law enforcement reports all indicate that these tornadoes were strong. I don't just put in random stuff; I always use sources.
ChessEric 19:37, 26 May 2024 (UTC)reply
The sources provided do not explicitly state that they are EF2 or EF3. We don't rely on indications based on reports but rather official surveys. Wikipedia has a policy against original research.
SalmonSalmonSalmon (
talk) 19:49, 26 May 2024 (UTC)reply
I'm sorry, but OR is not something I use. However, I'm not going to argue anymore. This is not because I'm being salty, but instead because I'm trying to avoid these types of things, since I can easily get riled up. If you believe that the summary should not include the term "strong," you can change it, although I would bring it up on the talk page first.
ChessEric 20:04, 26 May 2024 (UTC)reply