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I impress upon you to use the tutorial and read the Manual of Style. You really need the help.
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Thanks for setting me straight @
DESiegel:. I've been using it incorrectly since I arrived (LOL, too)
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Its not a, ahem, major problem. The serious issue is when someone tries to hide a controversial change to an article by marking it as a minor change.
DES(talk)DESiegel Contribs 03:51, 1 June 2020 (UTC)reply
Sorry for moving the image in Mountaineering
Sorry I took the image you put in
Mountaineering and moved it into the Mountaineering section in
mountain. I did this while moving a bunch of images around. If you want to add it back you are more then welcome to.
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Please specify just what you are claiming is a personal attack, Hike395.
Hello @
Hike395:. You deleted my section heading and then said it 'violated policy'. What did my heading say, please? Please indicate what you considered against policy. The intent was to journal MONGO's actions and text against me and I don't consider truth against policy or a personal; attack - it is merely fact. If MONGO takes Ac tion A against me, surely I can note said action in posts - otherwise, no one knows what he has done. And I'd suggest that calling my photograph 'ridiculous' and (especially) making up (fake) 'Policy' and claiming that as the reason for deleting my photo is a personal attack. I wonder if you did something similar to user MONGO (I think he deserves more than that for violating policy). Cheers, Brett.
P.S. I did not call him a blatant liar, but the facts would seem to support that contension due to his making up (fake) policy to support his wants.
Hi, Brett. The section header had a question: "Is he trustworthy or a troll?". Everyone who edits the section would repeat this in their edit summaries. Even couched as a (possibly rhetorical) question, I think this is not being
civil, and violated
No Personal Attacks, so I simplified the header. If you want to engage more editors to help settle a dispute, it's important not to come across as uncivil. One useful thing to read is
WP:AVOIDYOU --- arguments should be about guidelines, not about people.
I think it's important for both sides of the argument to
assume good faith. MONGO has been a valuable contributor to Mountain-related articles for 15+ years. You look like you have a lot of accumulated mountaineering wisdom and photographs to help improve Wikipedia articles. It looks like we're reaching consensus at
Talk:Mountaineering on the photographs. But, more importantly, I hope that we can all productively contribute to Mountain-related articles in the future. If you continue on your current path, I'm afraid that we're going to either lose you or MONGO as an editor. That would be a darn shame.
I'm hoping to cool the temperature down by collapsing (not deleting) your comments that appear to attack MONGO. If you have a dispute with an editor, I think you should let the discussion thread speak for itself, rather than try to interpret it for other editors. Any editor can remove comments that are personal attacks (see the policy at
WP:NPA). I'm exceedingly reluctant to do that myself --- I thought that by collapsing the comments that you said were optional to read, we could get back to a place of harmonious editing. I'll repeat that you're completely free to object to my collapsing and unilaterally remove it (You would remove where it says {{collapse top}} and {{collapse bottom}}) and I wouldn't revert. I think that's not in your self-interest, though --- you may come across as being aggressive to other editors whom you are trying to convince.
You may wish to take a look at
WP:HOTHEAD for tips on what to do at this point --- it might or might not be helpful to you. My sincere hope is that we can resolve the dispute at
Mountaineering, forget about any possible personal attacks on any side, and then move onto productive editing.
In case you missed it: I used two of your photos at
Commons:Mountaineering and one at
Commons:Mountains#Canada. What I've done in the past when I remove photos from an en article is use them in the corresponding gallery at Commons, so I wanted to incorporate your photos there.
I can remove the watermark, but in return, I'd ask you to
WP:CALM down and stop attacking MONGO. Would you be willing to do that? —
hike395 (
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Uh oh. Does that mean you're leaving Wikipedia? I sure hope not --- I think we can get past this. You might have fun contributing photographs over at Commons. —
hike395 (
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Hi! A little late to the conversation. Firstly, in any sort of editing dispute, it's always best to keep discussion focused on the edits rather than the editors, and why a certain edit is an improvement or not. (See
Wikipedia: Dispute resolution for lots of info and advice, or
WP:LAME for examples of petty edit wars.) I'm more of a textual editor (my first good article has no images besides an infobox map) but I've been in a dispute about images and I've helped resolve a couple others. The things I generally look for are: (1) does the image add encyclopedic content, and (2) does it support (or illustrate) the accompanying text of the article. If the images don't add sufficiently to the article, I'd delete them as I would superfluous text.
Another editor mentioned how pictures are a snapshot in time. This reminded me a bit about how
quotations are a single person's opinion. In both cases, these are single views which may not be consistent with the broad summary style required for an encyclopedia.
For something like the rope-work, you may want to consider staging a photograph specifically for the purpose of illustrating the text. It doesn't have to be up on a mountain (so long as you don't make that claim). Caption it with something like, "climbers practicing rope maneuvers; note... [details]". If the object is to show the ropework, then do so, and don't worry about the scenic backdrop or "authenticity" of whether it took place on an actual expedition.
That's just my opinion. I hope it is of help. –
Reidgreg (
talk) 16:24, 1 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Images for WPCAN10k
Hi! A couple months ago you joined
Wikipedia:WikiProject Canada/The 10,000 Challenge and asked about pictures. Sorry that I didn't reply earlier, I became less active at about that time and no one else was minding the shop. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ We have had more editors submitting image-related improvements to the challenge list, though it's still a small minority. What we like to see are improvements that will "stick", which generally means well-referenced new articles and expansions. However, most of my editing involves "cleanup" (such as layout work or copyediting) and that certainly is an article-improving effort which counts for the challenge. Images, I feel, are a little less "sticky"; they can come or go in an article, as with updated statistics. Still, if the picture provides encyclopedic content and illustrates some Canada-related content to a Canada-related article, I think it ought to count for the challenge. Please be sure that the image licensing is correct, and that the image is well documented in its description on Commons (being specific in the where and when, and what it is showing). –
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