I have a quick question, and having searched many wikipedia info pages cannot find an answer. So I am using the help me tag. Actually I have two questions, but they are related. They are" (1) It seems that if a controversial topic has four or five dedicated individuals who are keen on a particular point of view, they can violate the NPOV criteria of Wikipedia by claiming that the consensus agrees with them, when the consensus is four or five people who seem to care more about the page than countless others who disagree but have not the passion to join the discussion. What recourse is there for those who feel that an article is biased when a collective few say it is not? My second question is: How are "rules of a page and/or list created? And further who interprets them? There are lists on Wikipedia that seem to be enforced by a single user who fails to respond to inquiries regarding those rules, but removes edits with the notation, "as per rules of lists” Therefore I wish to know, who establishes the rules of any particular page, who can enforce the same, who can interpret the same and finally who can ask for an explanation of the same. Actually I realize that I asked more than two questions, but any help you can provide will be appreciated. Franklin Moore 03:10, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi, it seems we share a number of common interests. I noticed you on the WikiProject Anglicanism and made a few wikilink corrections to your (very good) expansion of Episcopal Diocese of New York. (I hope the history will be continued through the nineteenth and twentieth centuries!) I also see that you have edited articles on Gay rights in Cuba, Gay rights in Poland, etc. If you care to have a look at the articles Special rights and Homosexual agenda (and their respective talk pages), you will see that there are some editors on Wikipedia who believe that the term "gay rights" is itself POV!-- Bhuck 08:45, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
that is what I assumed. In any event, per your suggestion I went to the Special Rights article and have been involved in a long back and forth on the talk page. Franklin Moore 02:14, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
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- Tinucherian ( talk) 05:15, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Dear Franklin,
I noted the thoughtfulness of your commentary regarding the Ruben Diaz Jr. article.
As a University Professor and reader of Reinaldo Arenas, you set a high standard of discourse!
I will address your points one at a time, though this will probably take a day or two. Hopefully by the end of that, we will have a foundation for a reasonable point of consensus.
In this note today, I will address the validity of New York State Assembly Publications (including newsletters) as a source of information regarding the New York State Legislature.
A few months ago, I sent a similar note to an editor named GeneralBelly...you can read this note in my talk page.
NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY PUBLICATIONS
For information (not conjecture) about New York State legislation, the official publications of the New York State Legislature are a primary resource.
New York State Assembly Newsletters are edited, vetted, typeset, printed, and mailed by the government of the State of New York.
Every time a State Assembly Newsletter is cited in the Ruben Diaz Jr. article, it is to reference a fact – not a viewpoint or opinion.
For example, with respect to a New York State Assembly Newsletter which GeneralBelly quoted:
In the area of Brownfield Cleanup Legislation the Assembly Newsletter provides the bill number (A. 11768) and this bill summary: “will provide more than double the current tax incentives for actual site cleanup – up to 50 percent of the costs of remediation; limit the redevelopment credits on non-manufacturing sites to $35 million or three times the cost of site cleanup, whichever is less; limit the redevelopment credits on manufacturing sites to $45 million or six times the cost of site cleanup, whichever is less; allow any project application that has been received and approved by the DEC to continue to be eligible for current-law tax credits; and increase by 2 percent the redevelopment credit for sites developed in conformance with the Brownfield Opportunity Area Plan.”
In the area of Green Roof Property Tax Abatement, that same Assembly Newsletter provides the bill numbers (A.10234 and A.11226) and the following bill summary: “This tax abatement will offset 35% of the costs of installing a green roof on a standard roof.”
This level of detail and precision, applies to every instance in which a New York State Assembly Newsletter is cited (as a footnote) for the purpose of supplying a legislative fact, and a credible source for that fact.
Precedent exists in Wikipedia, for using a government publication in this manner. You don’t need to look very far.
Please review Reference #87 in the Wikipedia article of David Paterson, the current Governor of New York State. Here is a direct link to the text of this Reference: http://www.ny.gov/governor/press/press_0729081.html
If you have time, please review Reference #106 in that same Wikipedia article. Here is the direct link to its content: http://www.patersonforny.com/main.cfm?s=dap
The Ruben Diaz Jr. citations are specifically selected. They supply the direct facts, regarding legislation as it appears, in the body of the Wikipedia article. This use was more carefully and narrowly drawn, than Reference #106 as shown above, for the Governor of New York State.
Again I must affirm, that for information (not conjecture) about New York State legislation, the official publications of the New York State Legislature are a primary resource.
Thanks again for your attention to the Ruben Diaz Jr. article.
Regards,
MBernal615 ( talk) 07:47, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
Franklin,
Herein is the additional context you requested, with respect to the Rainbow Coalition.
1) RAINBOW COALITION vs. RAINBOW REBELLION
The New York Times designated them as the Rainbow Coalition. See:
The New York Sun also referred to them as a Rainbow Coalition. See:
2) FACTS REGARDING THE BATTLE FOR CONTROL OF BRONX COUNTY
Franklin, this battle was fascinating and often surreal.
It included:
a) the stealing of a P.A. system in order to prevent a mandated vote
b) senior citizens bussed in for a "free show and a chicken dinner"
c) the seniors forced to vote (they didn't know what for) then sent home...without any chicken
d) all of this orchestrated by Bronx County Leader José Rivera, trying to retain his power
3) SOURCES FOR THIS CIRCUS-LIKE BEHAVIOR
Naturally, this astounding spectacle did not escape the notice of the New York press. Here are some sources, all of which are listed in the current Ruben Diaz, Jr. article:
Kappstatter, Bob, (12/6/08), New Dem Boss Carl Heastie Ushers in Calm After Disruptive Storm Over Power, New York Daily News
Benjamin, Elizabeth, (9/29/08), Seeing Double In The Bronx, New York Daily News
Giove, Candice, (9/29/08), Rivera, Rebels, Each Claim Bronx Victory, The Village Voice
Giove, Candice, (9/29/08), Bronx Dem Boss Storms Meeting, The Village Voice
4) PRIOR INCLUSION OF THIS MATERIAL IN THE RUBEN DIAZ JR. ARTICLE
The above-cited events were previously included in the Ruben Diaz, Jr. article, but were deleted by the editor named GeneralBelly.
In order to avoid any NPOV controversy, I did not dispute GeneralBelly's deletion.
BUT PLEASE NOTE:
Given the above history, as documented by the New York press, the Ruben Diaz Jr. article has been more than conservative in maintaining its NPOV.
It avoided any inflammatory events, accepted GeneralBelly's deletion, and adhered to the documented facts.
Regards,
MBernal615 ( talk) 09:09, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks MBernal for your quick and thoughtful response. I think we can work together to improve this article. Let me address some of your issues.
Franklin,
I sent you a response regarding the Ruben Diaz Jr. NPOV issues.
You can read it on the Ruben Diaz Jr. Discussion Page.
Please review when you are able, and best wishes for the Easter season.
MBernal615 ( talk) 01:41, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
Franklin,
The Ruben Diaz Jr. edit worked very well. Thoughtfully and artfully done.
I followed up on some small things (typos, minor syntax) and voila! It was a nice addition to the piece.
Thanks, Franklin.
MBernal615 ( talk) 03:53, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Franklin,
I pared down the first sentence of the Rainbow Rebels section.
I also read some of your Discussion page, and noted some controversy surrounding the Cuba article.
My friend, you put it mildly...it's like WWIII in there!
The following is an anonymous note dated 4/11/09:
When people argue so vehemently, after the article has been locked, even Switzerland isn't safe.
Regards,
MBernal615 ( talk) 08:41, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Franklin,
Thank you for removing the NPOV tag from Ruben Diaz Jr. and yes, I look forward to working with you on this.
You have a strong editor's eye and a good way of working with people.
Both are really appreciated.
On another note, I have a more prosaic equivalent to your Cuba editing experience. I live in Washington Heights where there is a lively "economy." Cops eye me as if I'm up to no good, and clockers think I'm a cop. After twenty parking tickets and eggs on my car, I gave up driving in NYC.
All best,
MBernal615 ( talk) 00:04, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
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Franklin,
Feliz Navidad y prospero año nuevo en Argentina. I hope all is well.
I remember we edited together on an article named Ruben Diaz Jr. and came away with a nice result.
I'm writing to ask your assistance with Nelson Antonio Denis. Under the guise of "good faith editing," the page has been savaged and butchered by two editors who are teaming up. They eliminated entire sections and over 20 newspaper citations, all of which were carefully sourced.
If you look at the page as it existed on December 12, 2010 you will see a balanced, well-researched article that had educational value -- with citations and newspaper references for every major point.
The editor Off2RioRob has had problems with administrators before, so he is teaming up with someone to destroy this page. The page has been up for over a year, with no major problems. Now in two or three hours, they came by and destroyed it.
If you have a chance, please take a look and provide some assistance (if you believe it deserves it). I cannot win an editing war against these people.
The article was fair and beautiful on December 12, 2010. Now it is a mess. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.57.39.35 ( talk) 00:47, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
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