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BrownBot (
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I don't see the picture being public domain and I tagged it. It's not from the House website, but the party website. I think we'll have to wait for his official picture to appear on his website.
Hekerui (
talk) 07:08, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
gop.gov is the federal government. That's not the party web site but the web site of the House Republican Conference which is a federal entity. The image is clear and free to use. - ℅ ✰ALLST☆R✰echo 08:16, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
That's what I thought, but I've e-mailed their site administrators to make sure.
APKstraight up now tell me 08:21, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
Actually, it's
not free to use. It seems to come from the Illinois Assembly page (which is a .gov; not all .govs are federal), which does not make it public domain by default. I'm going to tag it, but if you do get info from that site admin, let me know. I'll check in here from time to time. Either gop.gov is using with permission (likely), or they just took it. (And sorry for the redundant comment below; I commented before reading your page) ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 13:56, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
(merging sections)
After going through GOP.gov for a bit, I was unable to find any explicit copyright info on
this image. As much as I want to see an image on that article too, this one doesn't seem to have a license. I also think this is from when he was a State Representative in Illinois, which wouldn't put it in the PD. Were you able to find a license? If a license can't be found, I'll have to {{subst:nld}} it. ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 11:53, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
I wish we could use
this one. Whew. - ℅ ✰ALLST☆R✰echo 18:07, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
Hehe, best of luck with that one, sir. ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 19:13, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
They haven't replied to my inquiry, but it doesn't matter. I guess it's not free to use anyway. That sucks. I looked for-evah and thought I finally found a pic we could use. (God bless TMZ)
APKstraight up now tell me 19:21, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
You may want to try contacting the owner of his
Flickr account. There are maybe 2 photos there that could work (cropped) until the official photo is posted (also,
this one would work well too). ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 19:37, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
I just received this e-mail:
Hi <my oh-so wonderful name>,
That is an official government image, and therefore, is free use.
Any top-level “.gov” website’s content and images, unless otherwise specifically stated, is public domain, as it is owned by the American taxpayers.
Me too. They should have at least identified the photographer and said when it was taken (and where Schock was at the time - in his career, I mean). I would still say play this safe. His claim about .gov websites is flat out wrong. Like I said, the Ill Assembly site is .gov, but as is clear in policy, only federal government creations are PD by default, not necessarily state works. ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 21:22, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
Just leave the image there, put back the original PD on it and forward the email to
WP:OTRS. Done. As the email said, all top level .gov domains, which gop.gov is, are public domain. Even if they allowed gop.gov to use it, under ignorance of the copyright law possibly, it is now free to use. - ℅ ✰ALLST☆R✰echo 21:43, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
I've never used OTRS. Where's the contact information (as in, specific e-mail address)?
APKstraight up now tell me 03:41, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
[email protected] is the email addy. Just make sure to let them know it's for an image already uploaded on the server and give the full URL address to the image. - ℅ ✰ALLST☆R✰echo 06:50, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
Okay, but there is the chance that they used the image out of ignorance and convenience and never actually asked. If they had done the same with an image of mine, which was licensed here or at Flickr under CC (or even all rights reserved, for that matter), I wouldn't lose my rights just b/c they stole the image (it probably all comes down to one web-designer anyway). I still think this is questionable. ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 05:42, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I'm not feeling okay with the whole thing. I'm going to contact those people from flickr and possibly his campaign website (begging never hurts). When do official portraits become available?
APKstraight up now tell me 05:58, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
New source
Just an FYI.
The Official White House Photostream's photostream. It's new according to Gizmodo
here. Oddly, they have all of the photos in the stream with a CC-BY 2.0 copyright. Doesn't the federal gov't know that official federal gov't photos are public domain and have no copyright? - ℅ ✰ALLST☆R✰echo 21:51, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
I assume they chose CC-BY 2.0 because they're unaware of the option to participate in
this program. On a related note, I have several ideas for a
photo caption.
APKstraight up now tell me 04:20, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
He said I was gonna love his nuts. Do I have to pay shipping & handling?
APKstraight up now tell me 04:20, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
I'm only lurking to see if there are updates on the Schock image; but this video was hilarious. ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 04:59, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
If that guy wants to open his own store, I've thought of the perfect name:
The Clap Shop. Wait a sec...
APKstraight up now tell me 05:29, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
Sinners, all of you.
That dude beat up a hooker! Wtf! Can't he get any for free? I'd think the slap chop dealie alone...maybe he shouts like in the Shamwow commercials when he's with an amateur...That (and other things) would prompt me to give him the boot. --
Moni3 (
talk) 12:35, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
If I had a nickel for every time a Miami Beach hooker tried to eat my tongue...
APKstraight up now tell me 13:32, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
I made a ring tone from the SlapChop Remix video and it's now my ring tone for all calls. Sad. But it makes me laugh everytime someone calls and I hear "Hi, It's Vince for Slap Slap Slap Chop Chop Chop Chop.. now watch this, you're gonna love my nuts, love my nuts, love my nuts.. now watch this, you're gonna love my nuts, my nuts, my nuts!" - ℅ ✰ALLST☆R✰echo 17:38, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
I may resign Al-Gayda and join the
Gay Reich. - ℅ ✰ALLST☆R✰echo 03:08, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
Stop threatening people
Please stop behaving like a bully. Please stop trying to exercise control over other people's talk pages. Please stop trying to force your personal
POV on other people.
Skywriter (
talk) 23:47, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
For anyone interested,
this is the um, evidence that I'm a bully, controlling talk pages, have a POV problem, etc. Compelling evidence, no?
APKstraight up now tell me 23:58, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
You bully, you! - ℅ ✰ALLST☆R✰echo 00:09, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
APK, would you fill me in on what the hell is going on with the cat in that article? I guess I haven't had my coffee today. You do know that there are people in some parts of the US that refer to Obama as the
Anti-Christ. —
Becksguy (
talk) 22:53, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Which cat? (You're correct. I can only image what the folks back home think about him.)
APKstraight up now tell me 03:56, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
The cat you are being questioned on in the AfD. I'm not even sure which cat myself. —
Becksguy (
talk) 12:22, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
It wasn't a cat. They were insinuating I had done something wrong by adding
this template to the article, and adding the article in the template. (in the "Other media" section) This is a great example of why I usually avoid AfDs, especially ones related to political issues. There's always a few (fill-in political issue/person/organization) kool-aid drinkers that will hound someone and try to 'figure out their real intentions'. In regards to this specific article, they've decided my intentions are anti-O. (aka paranoia)
APKstraight up now tell me 13:01, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi, since the AfD was closed as a keep and you were advocating a merger, I would be willing to have a discussion on the talk page regarding such a merge if you still believe it's right. It would be good to reach a definitive conclusion so that both articles can move on, rather than being "in-limbo". Whatever the outcome, there's work that needs doing on expanding the coverage of the embassy and the building. Kind regards,
HJMitchellYou rang? 17:45, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
I noticed the AfD was closed, though I'm still trying to understand how the closing admin thought there was a consensus to keep. I was under the impression you
thought merging the content to where it was originally located was the best solution. Am I mistaken?
APKstraight up now tell me 19:33, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
You made a pretty good argument. I'm not sure, so I'm afraid I'm on the fence on this one. The building definitely has notability aside from the embassy, which is relatively new, however, as a search term, it is probably more notable. I would suggest giving it, say, 5 days, gauging consensus and doing a little research to see if, through a combined effort, we can't expand and source it. After all, even if it goes back to the embassy article, a few more refs and more detail couldn't hurt. Let's open a discussion on the talk page and invite contributions from those who partook in the AfD and others who might be interested and see what the consensus is in 5 days. Sound fair?
HJMitchellYou rang? 00:36, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
Oh, and as a favour, could you possibly leave a talkback on my own talk page when you reply? Thanks!
HJMitchellYou rang?
This is not going to work. I know that wasn't you doing the merge, but let me explain why this whole issue is bothersome. I seriously hope you don't take offense to the following comments, but it's how the situation looks from my perspective.
3) You deleted the embassy's sourced content and
replaced it with content that includes improperly sourced/formatted references. (i.e. take the good, replace with bad)
4) I
nominated the building's article for deletion because none of the sources show notability. I said, "Articles such as
Embassy of Uzbekistan in Washington, D.C. and
Thomas T. Gaff House combine the architectural, historical, and diplomatic information into one article." You said I was "flawed", the building has a "claim to fame", and the "nomination should be withdrawn immediately".
5) There were four votes at the AfD. Two for merge, one for keep or merge, and you for speedy keep (without a reason to do so). The closing admin was incorrect to claim there was a consensus to keep, especially considering the last two comments were "Have you been able to locate a source that specifically covers the building?" and "Alas not, though I'm still looking."
6) I fully explained why the building does not meet notability requirements: "The reliable sources are not discussing the actual building, only the people/organizations that used the building. I added them to the original embassy article to avoid another 2-sentence stub. The information and sources in 1520 New Hampshire Avenue were just copy and pasted; I don't see any evidence of the building's notability. Ref #1 is about the embassy. Ref #2 is about property value and being located in a historic district (almost every building in Dupont has a high property value and contributing property status; this is nothing special). Refs #3-7 have nothing to do with the actual building and don't even include a full sentence covering the topic. They're directories and other material I used to simply show past ownership." I forgot to add that almost every home or building once used as a home (most Dupont embassies are in former homes) includes a past owner who could be considered notable. My home served as a legation over 100 years ago, but that doesn't mean it's notable for an article. If we started writing separate articles for every building once owned by a notable organization or individual, there would be literally thousands of D.C.-related articles about buildings. I've researched the history of countless old buildings in Dupont Circle, Logan Circle, Capitol Hill, Georgetown, Woodley Park, Sheridan-Kalorama, etc. I'm not exaggerating when I say 98% of them were once home to a congressman, senator, embassy/legation/attaché, author, activist, organization, or prominent businessperson. (ex:
1,
2,
3,
4,
5,
6,
7,
8,
9,
10 - All of them include notable past owners. Most, if not all, meet notability requirements for an article. None of them warrant two separate articles.)
7) Even though I showed why the embassy warranted its own entry, while you never provided any evidence of notability for the building,
User:SilkTork finished off the embassy's article through a redirect. I've reverted because the redirect is completely backwards and it was done without discussion. If the articles are merged, the building's article should be redirected to the embassy. If someone wanted to read a Wikipedia article about the subject in hand, I doubt they would Google "1520 New Hampshire Avenue" instead of something like "Jamaican embassy US".
To sum it all up - I feel as if I've followed WP guidelines and
veryclearprecedent, yet the embassy's article is getting the short end of the stick. I wouldn't normally spend so much time worrying about a stub, but it seems like such an obvious example of disregarding
WP:N,
WP:NAME, and
WP:DGFA.
APKstraight up now tell me 18:12, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
OK, for the record, I had nothing to do with the redirecting and/ or any subsequent shit it's caused and, also for the record, I have a pretty thick skin and I'm glad we're speaking our minds. Firstly, however, if you feel so strongly that the close was improper, I would suggest you take it up with the admin whose name, unfortunately escapes me. That said, my justification for the speedy keep, not that it matters now, was that you nominated it for deletion almost as soon as it was created and your rationale implied that you wanted it "re-merged" rather than deleted, for which AfD is not the proper forum.
When all is said and done, I suppose, with the benefit of hindsight, I should have discussed the split on the talk page beforehand. I still think the building has notability of its own, but, when it comes to DC, you are more knowledgeable than I and you make a valid point. After all of this, I think it's best left as it is- in one place and, as a search term, the embassy article is the right place. We should let sleeping dogs lie, as such, if I can help with the embassy article, just let me know. Until then, I shall sign off. Regards,
HJMitchellYou rang? 22:23, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
Images
Thanks. I thought that's normal procedure because the templates give a message to leave on the talk page, but I'll summarize it.
Hekerui (
talk) 15:00, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
Oh, and that Jimbo head totally freaked me out lol
Hekerui (
talk) 15:10, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
APK, I don't know where you get the time to find all these here youtubies. You da man, the King of YouTube. Moral of that is don't cross the Telebubbies. And spank the gay outa me, indeed. LO freaking L! —
Becksguy (
talk) 00:24, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
how do I contact you? I find no private way to do that.
Wikipedia says there is some manner of making private contact about one of your articles. I can't find it. Would you let me know? You have taught me a valuable lesson but I have some questions about it. —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
RolandParkGuy (
talk •
contribs) 10:42, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
What's so wrong about the links I posted on the PCC wiki page? You removed some that had already been there for months. —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
69.208.13.167 (
talk) 15:22, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Because it's considered
link spam. In regards to the other link I removed, pensacolachristiancollege.com has not been active since 2003. The owners of that site moved to PCCboard.com, which is already linked. The Christianity Today link is already found in the 'References' section, so there's no need to have duplicate links. The nursing program link can be accessed through pcci.edu, so once again, there's no need to have duplicate links. Oh yeah, using multiple IP addresses to add the link
doesn't really help your case.
APKstraight up now tell me 15:36, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
I could care less that I was using multiple IP addresses. My computer switches IP's every time I log on to the internet. Mwah. I had nothing to do with that aspect. Wikipedia is supposed to be available for anyone to edit. Sure doesn't seem like it to me. —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
69.221.162.227 (
talk) 03:01, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Yet somehow you're able to edit my talk page. I could care less about this conversation, especially your snarky, overly dramatic portrayal of an oppressed Wikipedian. Don't spam. It's that simple. Adios.
APKstraight up now tell me 03:24, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
For cleaning up my typo on the
Capitol Gatehouse; I thought I'd clicked over to Commons, so any category is superfluous anyway. Also, thanks for the great D.C. pictures - I'm slowly creating articles for them! Acroterion(talk) 16:18, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Too funny. I was about to leave a kudos message on your talk page in regards to the recent DC-NRHP articles (I've added them to the
list). I'm glad the pictures are finally being used. I took so many NRHP photos last year (it was my summer "hobby/mission") that I didn't know where to begin. I'll try to help out with starting more articles.
APKstraight up now tell me 16:57, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks - you certainly covered some ground, and they're nice, descriptive images. I've been just choosing random themes (like "along Independence Avenue") or things that struck my fancy, like
Alibi Club. I really prefer to write about a subject I can see for myself, so the pictures are an incentive. Acroterion(talk) 17:12, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
In regards to SW buildings, you might find
this book helpful. I purchased it a few months ago and it mentions several NRHP listings. As an architect, you may find the
Urban Renewal chapter to be quite interesting. There's an endless debate among Washingtonians on whether or not the Brutalist/Modern replacements in SW should be considered architecturally significant and landmarked (at least
one building has already passed the test). Although the
biggest debate centers around a
building in NW.
APKstraight up now tell me 18:08, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
I've seen that series and have picked up some for other places. You might like the source I've been using - the Scott/Lee Buildings of the District of Columbia that I've referenced on the Heating Plant - you can get a used copy on Amazon for cheap. Very informative, with good critical opinion. There's also the AIA Guide to DC, but I find it disappointing. I've seen the church, both in person (fro the outside) and via the newspaper. I wish they could find a buyer who liked brutalist churches and move. I wrote a number of essays on brutalist architecture in graduate school and can't say I have an affection for the style, but I understand its attraction. The only architect who could pull it off well was
Louis Kahn. Acroterion(talk) 18:26, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
You deserve credit too for clean-up and the image. Yeah, 5100 hits for a non-lead DYK is pretty good - thanks. Acroterion(talk) 11:50, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
Recent change patrol
While I appreciate your zeal for making sure things are accurate to a "T", I can personally assure you that the information I have provided is correct. I'm unsure as of how to add a citation, and in all actuality, see no reason for the need. But there is an article within the history of the school's home page that discusses a contract with the drug searching team. The exact date of this search is not contained, as to my knowledge, but it is the date of the search. I would not edit if it were not accurate.—Preceding
unsigned comment added by
71.185.232.101 (
talk) 20:02, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
If you can't find a reliable source that has been recorded online, it will get reverted, as it appears you are the only one who knows it happened.--
Iner22 (
talk) 20:03, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
Prop 8
Have you seen
this? Jack Black is so funny. -ALLST✰R▼echowuz here @ 07:22, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Funny you should mention it. I saw the video this afternoon with a friend. We ended up watching funnyordie clips for several hours. Check out
Kristin Chenoweth's
video. (If APK wasn't a homosexical, he would be on her like white on rice. She reminds me of my ex-fiance from college. Both are kind of loud, funny, and 4'11". Imagine APK, a 6'4" FoD, married to a 4'11" cooooountry girl from eastern NC. I know what you're going to say. Imagine me with a girl, period. Eat me.)APKstraight up now tell me
No problems, I have an ex-fiance too. Almost married her until her brother plowed me in the middle of the night while staying at her house. lmao -ALLST✰R▼echowuz here @ 07:44, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
I may regret asking, but I have to: what's FoD?
LadyofShalott 04:02, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
I'll take a guess here..
Friend of Dorothy or
Female Orgasmic Disorder which I am shocked doesn't have an article so go
here instead.. either way, those are the only options because he either is one, or causes one. lol -ALLST✰R▼echowuz here @ 05:21, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, ASE. That makes sense, at least the first part. I must say, I find the following information from the lead of that article hilarious:
In the early 1980s, the Naval Investigative Service was investigating homosexuality in the Chicago area. Agents discovered that gay men sometimes referred to themselves as "friends of Dorothy." Unaware of the historical meaning of the term, the NIS believed that a woman named Dorothy was at the center of a massive ring of homosexual military personnel. The NIS launched an enormous hunt for Dorothy, hoping to find her and convince her to reveal the names of gay servicemembers.[7]
How much effort and money did they waste?
LadyofShalott 14:52, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Hugs are awesome.. especially when they come from hot guys[1]...
Be sure to pay it forward because you never know who's life you'll save with something as simple as a hug. -ALLST✰R▼echowuz here @ 08:02, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
Yes, yum, I'll have a plate please. -ALLST✰R▼echowuz here @ 00:18, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
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