A-class reviews

Hey, Eddie. The expected has occurred - I've gotten bored with just nitpicking at prose like a moron. Any tips on what to look for in an A-class? I want to actually be useful, contribute more. Thanks, — La Pianista ^{Speak ·  Hear} 05:00, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Hahahaha I love you :) You can look for reference issues (are they formatted correctly with access dates, etc.?)...otherwise, anything more requires a decent knowledge of the topic or actually going to the sources and checking them to make sure that the article is in sync with them. — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 05:09, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

So then, more of the same? No worries - I'll try. — La Pianista ^{Speak ·  Hear} 05:21, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Pianista > me :). Keep at it, LP. Icy // ♫ 20:27, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Am I the only one who thinks Icy should be trouted? For real this time? — La Pianista ^{Speak ·  Hear} 04:14, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Hahaha I am so not getting in the middle of this. CATFIGHT! :D

/me gets popcorn. — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 04:16, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Perversity, thy name is Ed. — La Pianista ^{Speak ·  Hear} 06:42, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

:O — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 06:51, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

It's okay. You aren't alone - many people share your affliction. Perhaps some "gargling barbed wire" and "sleeping on a bed of thorns" will help. — La Pianista ^{Speak ·  Hear} 06:56, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

O_O Responding with just emoticons is fun. — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 07:01, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

PM(s) on IRC. — La Pianista ^{Speak ·  Hear} 07:02, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

(<-) Whaseriously - what did I do to get stuck in the middle of this? IceUnshattered ( talk · contribs) is the clear victim here :-( Icy // ♫ 20:46, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

What? Nonono. I am the victim. :P — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 21:32, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Oh? Since when have perverts who watch eight-inch-tall gnomes cry while eating popcorn been victims, huh? You ready mushroom; you wield mushroom ... Icy // ♫ 21:44, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm right, no matter what anyone says; shut it or be blocked. :P :P :P — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 21:47, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Darn, this is like Wyvern - disagree with a wiz and the only thing in your future is bannation. But then again, I'd rather Live Free or Die, y'know. - Icy // ♫ 21:58, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Bah. Way to steal New Hampshire's slogan. :O And in case you don't know why I used Conservapedia there, see this :D — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 22:03, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm looking at a redlink which is...red. And way to go with no edit summary, yeah. Icy // ♫ 22:04, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

(a) I should have copied and pasted the first time. User:The ed17/How Conservapedia differs from Wikipedia. (b) I hit enter instead of shift. :-( — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 22:06, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Oh wow, yeah. Well, I was brought up in a liberal household, and regularly indulge in MSNBC. Whatever the content of your edits, there definitely should have been some discussion after reverting: Bold-revert-discuss cycle anyone?

But what to expect? Conservapedia is not Wikipedia, after all. I think that there's no way to flat-out deny the slight liberal-whatever bias in Wik'edia, but ...agh, whatever. There isn't any reason to force the mushroom back up their throats, right? Oh, bother! -I'm not making any sense now, am I? Icy // ♫ 22:13, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

(<=) - lol, I wish. Nothing like that there :) I was brought up in a conservative household and I still am - a "conservative democrat" one site called me when I took a test - but realism is stronger than that. Conservapedia just flat-out denies history and ignores the real world...it gives Christians a bad name, IMHO. I don't know if there is a liberal bias to Wikipedia, but if there is, at least we have the truth here 99.9% of the time. — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 22:29, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Blocked for 5 years! Wow... Little Mountain 5 ^review! 22:39, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

You know what's better? When you are blocked on Wikipedia without a time limit, it's "indefinite". There, it's "infinite". No reformed vandals there... — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 22:41, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Echoing what you said on that page, no wonder everyone comes here, not there. Little Mountain 5 ^review! 22:48, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Lol pretty much :) — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 22:53, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Infinite, la? Blocked for-ehhver and ehhh-vaaah.... should I be paying them respect? Oh, crud... Anyways: is it just me, or is Conservapedia becoming the subject of lightly made jokes over here? Icy // ♫ 23:07, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Try this ;) — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 23:10, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

I wish there was a CM wiki. I could be nerdmin there. :'( — La Pianista ^{Speak ·  Hear} 23:25, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Just for you... — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 23:39, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Oooh! I like. Thanks, Eddie. — La Pianista ^{Speak ·  Hear} 23:16, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

It's totally inactive though. :( — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 03:32, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

I know. :( Sad state of CM nowadays. — La Pianista ^{Speak ·  Hear} 04:38, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Surrender of Japan FAC

Can you please revisit your comments at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Surrender of Japan Raul654 ( talk) 21:21, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

 Done — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 04:17, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Hugs

Queenie ^Talk has hugged you! Hugs promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better (and hopefully wasn't meant as an invasion of personal space). Spread the WikiLove by hugging at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing!
Hug others by adding {{ subst:Hug}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Thanks. :) Queenie ^Talk 21:21, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

No problem :) Thanks for the hug! — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 04:17, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

(e/c) Hugging Ed? That's unheard of. Nobody even touches that guy. :P — La Pianista ^{Speak ·  Hear} 04:17, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/MZMcBride

An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened, and is located here. Please add any evidence you may wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/MZMcBride/Evidence. Please submit your evidence within one week, if possible. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/MZMcBride/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Tiptoety ^talk 02:18, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

A-Class discussion

Hi, we're starting the discussion on A-Class here today, thanks for signing up! I hope you can present your views. Thanks, Walkerma ( talk) 07:44, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

WikiCup Newsletter

The WikiCup Newsletter

The WikiCup Newsletter Round I, Issue 7 - March 1, 2009 Archive before | Archive after Content Leaders As of this newsletter, the following is a list of participants with the most: Featured articles Gary King and Juliancolton have both had 3 successful featured article nominations. Featured lists Matthewedwards has had 7 successful featured list nominations. Featured topics Scorpion0422 and Mitchazenia have both had 1 successful featured topic nomination. Featured pictures Durova has had 40 successful featured picture nominations. Featured sounds Shoemaker's Holiday has had 6 successful featured sound nominations. Featured portals Sunderland06 has had 1 successful featured portal nomination. Good topics Scorpion0422, Theleftorium, Gary King and Climie.ca have all had 1 successful good topic nomination. Good articles Mitchazenia has had 22 successful good article nominations. Did you know? items Candlewicke has had 41 successful "Did you know?" nominations. In the news items Candlewicke has had 22 successful "In the News" nominations. Biggest Jumps This week, the players with the biggest difference between their points last fortnight, and their points this week are: Rank User LF TF D 1 Durova 1348 1528 180 2 Shoemaker's Holiday 420 566 146 3 Useight 420 549 129 4 Matthewedwards 504 625 121 5 ThinkBlue 142 248 106 6 Gary King 920 1012 92 7 97198 241 313 72 8 Sasata 412 480 68 9 Candlewicke 532 580 48 10 Scorpion0422 532 580 48 LF = Last Week's score, TF = This Week's score, D = Difference between last week and this week's scores A full list is located at User:Garden/WikiCup/Jumps From the Judges We have 31 days left, just one month left in the first round. The first two months have already produced spectacular results, and we're hoping to see a great race to the end of the round. Get those nominations in for them to count for this round, but remember that any nominations that are not promoted before the end of this round, will still count for round two if you make it. We unfortunately had another contestant, What!?Why?Who?, withdraw this week and we wish them the best. We saw some big jumps in content upgrades this week! We saw 33 new good articles, 3 new featured articles and lists, 8 featured pictures, 5 featured sounds, and 24 did you know items. (Also note, there are 111 good articles and 222 did you know items as of this newsletter). Keep it up during the final push to round two.  GARDEN , iMatthew // talk, and The Helpful One If you don't wish to receive this newsletter in the future, remove your name from this list. If you are not a participant, but would still like to receive this newsletter, feel free to add your name to the list. WikiCup At a Glance As of this newsletter, the WikiCup participants have collected a total of: 16 Featured articles 23 Featured lists 2 Featured topics 61 Featured pictures 17 Featured sounds 1 Featured portal 4 Good topics 111 Good articles 222 Did you know? items 35 In the news items Current leaders In this round of the WikiCup, the top two contestants from each pool, along with ten wildcards, will advance to the next round. As of this newsletter, the current pool leaders are: Pool A Gary King (1012) Spencer (292) Pool B Shoemaker's Holiday (566) La Pianista (68) Pool C Scorpion0422 (580) Candlewicke (580) Pool D 97198 (313) ThinkBlue (248) Pool E Sasata (480) X! (211) Pool F the_ed17 (299) Bedford (290) Pool G Ceranthor (177) Sunderland06 (159) Pool H Juliancolton (604) Tinucherian (112) Pool I Durova (1528) Theleftorium (913) Pool J Mitchazenia (816) Matthewedwards (625) Wildcards Useight (549) Paxse (454) Climie.ca (259} Catalan (254) J Milburn (232) Rambo's Revenge (201) Rlevse (129) NapHit (99) WereSpielChequers (92) Howard the Duck (82) Wrestlinglover (82) Dendodge (78) Steven Walling (69) All scores are accurate as of 15:02, 1 March 2009 (UTC) Contestants in italics are those crawling up behind the wildcards.

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MilCon

Hey man, would you be able to tally and table the scores from this month's milcon? Cam ^{( Chat)} 05:20, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Hey Cam. I did part, but I'm totally sick of it now :) If no one has gotten to it by tomorrow, I'll finish it off. — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 05:24, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia Signpost — 2 March 2009

This week, the Wikipedia Signpost published volume 5, issue 9, which includes these articles:

• Books extension enabled
• News and notes: Stewards, Wikimania bids, and more
• Wikipedia in the news: Wikipedia's role in journalism, Smarter Wikipedia, Skittles
• Dispatches: WikiProject Ships Featured topic and Good topics
• Wikiproject report: WikiProject Norse History and Culture
• Discussion report: Discussion Reports And Miscellaneous Articulations
• Features and admins: Approved this week
• Technology report: Bugs, Repairs, and Internal Operational News
• Arbitration report: The Report on Lengthy Litigation

Delievered by SoxBot II ( talk) at 08:48, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Battle of Dunkirk

There has recently been some conjecture as to how to describe the victory by the German forces. Can you or other members of the project group please assist in the discussion on the talk page. I intend to call for a consensus decision in order to establish the infobox statement regarding the outcome of the battle. FWiW Bzuk ( talk) 12:53, 2 March 2009 (UTC).

:/

Look on the bright side: that (resigned) result in your (co-opted). Surely this moust have been a rewarding experince, even if I wasn't there for all it. Right? :) TomStar81 ( Talk) 02:06, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

LOL. Yeah, I guess, but I would have rather had you here :) — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 02:10, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

I am here now, though I do not retain my stars I do retain my sense of purpose. Eventually, it will be the fate of those current coordinators to leave the committee and allow the next generation to step up. I have in a sense done this with my retirement. Moreover, I have served as a advisor since my return, helping with the day to to operations. As I noted at my rfa, a position of power or influnce is a great thing, but if you are not enough without it, you will never be enough with it. The hallmark of a truely great person, then, is his or her ability to walk away from a position of influence or power and still retain the respect of those whom they once worked with. TomStar81 ( Talk) 02:17, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

O_O nice speech...now if only you could spell everything right. :P

Now, all teasing aside, you definitely still have the respect of everyone who you have worked with. Definitely. No need to worry about that. — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 02:23, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

I should thank you, BTW, for the conversation above; it served as a basis for the newly saved #10 on my advise to new coordinators essay. TomStar81 ( Talk) 04:06, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Heh, uh, no problem? :-) I took a look; that #10 looks great. — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 04:16, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XXXVI (February 2009)

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter Issue XXXVI (February 2009)
From the Coordinators This month has been interesting for MILHIST, as we reorganized a few departments. The Outreach Department has been replaced by the tabs at the top of our totally redesigned project page; thanks to Kirill for the design and Bellhalla for the logo. We also created the Academy, a hub for practical advice about creating, editing, and reviewing quality content. All project members are cordially invited to fill in some of the red links, and new ideas are always welcome. As you can see on the right, our A-class and featured content is growing quite rapidly; these numbers have now gone up by 45 for the second straight month! Great work! In addition, thanks go out to those who recently helped in reducing the A-class nominations backlog. Reviewers are still needed; if you feel up to it, please stop by and leave comments on an article—every review helps! Lastly, the contest results for the month: Bellhalla took the cake again with 77 points and gets the Chevrons, while Ian Rose gets the Writer's Barnstar for his 60 points. Other participants included Bryce (49 points), Cam (25), David Underdown (11), Kirk (5), Parsecboy (20), Piotrus (?), Rosiestep (3), the_ed17 (27), Wild Wolf (6), and YellowMonkey (35). 51 total articles were improved as part of this.	Articles of note New featured articles: Dreadnought Edmund Herring John Whittle Murray Maxwell SS Kroonland United States Military Academy USS Connecticut (BB-18) William Bostock New featured lists: List of Australian George Cross recipients List of Knight's Cross recipients of the Kriegsmarine New featured pictures: 1917 surrender of Jerusalem WWI Canadian war bond poster (french) WWI Canadian war bond poster (english) Lexington class battlecruiser Battle of Ticonderoga attack plan, 1759 Military College of Chapultepec, c. 1847 Machine gun corps, Tell el Sheria Gaza line, 1917 First Battle of Manassas map Aftermath of Wounded Knee, January 1891 Ottoman camel corps at Beersheba, WWI Japanese archer with targets, 1878 New featured topics: Iowa class battleships New A-Class articles: Battle of Sio Battles of the Kinarot Valley Capture of Fort Ticonderoga Clare Stevenson Edgar Towner Falaise pocket Frank Hubert McNamara Japanese battleship Musashi Japanese battleship Yamato Joe Hewitt (RAAF officer) Keith Miller Lee-Enfield Military career of Keith Miller Operation Mole Cricket 19 Powder Alarm SMS Moltke (1910) SM U-66 SM U-68 Sydney Rowell U-5 class submarine (Austria-Hungary) U-20 class submarine USS Texas (BB-35) Walter Nowotny
Project news On 22 February, four military history articles—all of them on battleships—appeared on the Main Page: USS Connecticut (BB-18) was the day's featured article, Japanese battleship Haruna and Brazilian battleship Minas Gerais appeared as part of the DYK section, and French battleship Danton (1909) was one of the in the news items. Six articles in our scope appeared on the main page this month: Woodes Rogers (1 February), Action of 13 January 1797 (6 February), 300 (film) (13 February), Theramenes (17 February), Third Battle of Kharkov (19 February), and USS Connecticut (BB-18) (22 February). The main project page has been redesigned. Article alerts are now available both for the entire project (on the status page) and for each task force (on the task force page). The Military history coordinator elections, to appoint coordinators for the period April–October 2009, take place this month. If you are thinking of standing as a candidate, the schedule is as follows: Nomination period: 00:01 Sat 7 March - 23:59 Fri 13 March Voting period: 00:01 Sat 14 March - 23:59 Sat 29 March
Awards and honors Ian Rose has been awarded the WikiChevrons with Oak Leaves in recognition of his outstanding contributions to Australian military history articles (including four Featured Articles, an A-Class article, and four Good Articles), his highly civil and collaborative editing, and his willingness to provide advice and assistance to other editors. MisterBee1966 has been awarded the WikiChevrons with Oak Leaves in recognition of his contributions to seven featured lists on German military awards during the Second World War, and for contributing to four good articles and being instrumental in promoting three of them to A-Class status. Raul654 has been awarded the WikiChevrons with Oak Leaves in recognition of his contributions to six current Military History Featured Articles, his flexibility in managing the " Today's featured article" list to accommodate relevant main-page appearances, and his generosity in providing many images for our visual library. The Land has been awarded the WikiChevrons with Oak Leaves in recognition of his significant contributions to the area of maritime warfare, as he has authored six of the seven articles in the " history of the battleship" series, with four of them now being featured. Bellhalla has been awarded the Milhist A-Class medal with Oak Leaves twice for six ship articles: U-1 class submarine (Austria-Hungary), U-3 class submarine (Austria-Hungary), SM U-14 (Austria-Hungary), U-5 class submarine (Austria-Hungary), U-20 class submarine, and SM U-68. Abraham, B.S. has been awarded the Milhist A-Class medal for Percy Statton, Tom Derrick and List of Australian George Cross recipients. Cam has been awarded the Milhist A-Class medal for Operation Totalize, Japanese battleship Yamato and Japanese battleship Musashi. Ian Rose has been awarded the Milhist A-Class medal for Stanley Goble, William Bostock and Frank Hubert McNamara. Nudve has been awarded the Milhist A-Class medal for North Yemen Civil War, Battles of the Kinarot Valley, and Operation Mole Cricket 19. TomStar81 has been awarded the Milhist A-Class medal for United States Naval Gunfire Support debate, USS Iowa (BB-61) and USS Texas (BB-35).
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US WWI railway guns

They were in fact the latest model 50-cal guns.. See my addition & reference on the 14"/50 caliber gun page - it quotes from the Official US Navy report. The 45-cal myth appears to be an error that keeps going round.. Rod. Rcbutcher ( talk) 23:39, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XXXVI (February 2009)

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Amagi BCs

Hi, Ed. I realized a little bit ago that I had taken my exams last week (I know, I'm awesome with time) and that I now have the time to take the Amagi to A-class, so I nominated the page ( here). I added your name to the nominator section, so you can add any nomination comments if you want. Parsecboy ( talk) 03:49, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

LOL. I just decided to wait for you to nom it; I've got a decent amount of time, so it didn't matter too much to me. :) Cheers friend! — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 03:51, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks :) I never upload fair-use images, so I'm not really familiar with all of those templates. Parsecboy ( talk) 00:48, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

You think I am? ;) I just accidentally stumbled upon it when I was looking at one of Bellhalla's submarine articles ( U-43 class submarine) and clicked on the picture. :P — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 00:51, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

That's usually how I do it :) I'll have to remember that template is on the image, for future use. Parsecboy ( talk) 00:52, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

We're Not in Kansas Anymore

Actually, since you've already kickstarted the review, do you want to take it over completely? I'm fine with doing the review if you want to. Noble Story ( talk • contributions) 09:27, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

No, but thanks though! I like reviewing MILHIST stuff (e.g. WP:MHR#A-CLASS), but not much else. :/ — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 09:32, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Right then, I'll proceed. And thanks for chipping in. Noble Story ( talk • contributions) 09:35, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Motto of the Day Free Ice Cream Day!

By Imperial Decree of His Divine Majesty, our Most Sublime Padishah God-Emperor, Car'a'carn, Editor-in-Chief, etc. (may he live for ever) of the Dominion of the Motto of the Day, every Thursday is Free Ice Cream Day throughout the the Realm. Therefore, our glorious ruler (may he live for ever) has caused to be delivered to you by the Ministry of Frozen or Otherwise Cold Desert Treats this ice cream treat (which may include gelato, depending on one's interpretation of the picture). Let it be eaten without delay, lest the heat of the servers melt it. Let it not drip onto the Article Namespace, lest you suffer the Death of a Thousand Edits for allowing unencyclopedic melted desert treat to get into the wiki. Nutiketaiel ( talk) 13:35, 6 March 2009 (UTC) (UTC)

I just realized I forgot to deliver your Ice Cream yesterday, and we can't have my new Grand Admiral and Minister of Making Things Explode in the Pursuit of Just and Honorable Causes ( see, I promoted you) going without ice cream! Nutiketaiel ( talk) 13:35, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

So what am I? :P Queenie

You, Queenie, are one of the two co-Prime Ministers of our imperial government (the other is Simply South). Nutiketaiel ( talk) 18:09, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

WOOT! :D Queenie 19:43, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

RE; Taiho

Certainly. I won't be able to get to it right away, but you have got yourself a collaboration. Cam ^{( Chat)} 23:07, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

FYI

In case you didn't know, you have a redlink to your deleted secret page in the 'the_ed17' at the top of all your pages... Little Mountain 5 ^review! 23:14, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Oh yes...I forgot about that. Thanks :) — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 23:32, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

No problem. :P Little Mountain 5 ^review! 00:20, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

The WikiProject Novels Newsletter - March 2009

The WikiProject Novels Newsletter Issue 29 - March 2009

Archives  |  Tip Line  |  Editors The Novels WikiProject Newsletter Issue 28 - November 2008 From the Coordinators As you can see, this is about as bare-bones of a newsletter as you can get. The reason for this is that the newsletter has and will be inactive, but we wanted to get a last one out detailing the current state of our project. The truth is that WP:NOVELS is in bad shape. Only a few editors are active in editing inside of our project. Our Peer Review section, this newsletter, our task forces, and our collaboration center are all dead; although a collab is picked each month, not a lot of work seems to occur. Out of these ashes, we are proposing that the project start an A-class review system. This will hopefully bring people together for reviewing, and will perhaps get the project some sorely-needed attention from others who can come in and help rehabilitate it. Final plans have not been established, but we will see about getting a mass message out to all of the project members if/when it is set up; discussion of this can be conducted on the General Forum. This newsletter will probably be the last we will have for a long time, as neither Ed nor Kevinalewis have the time to create these every month. However, if any editor is willing to step up and create one, we would be glad to assist you in making it up. If you don't want to create a newsletter, but would still like to help, there are plenty of things that can be done. As detailed on the right, the Novels Peer Review section has four articles needing attention, but only one review has been done; one from May, one from November, and one from December have not had any comments left on them. Please consider helping out there; even a 15-minute review would help. Your coords, – Kevinalewis ( talk · contribs) and the_ed17 ( talk · contribs) Member news Talk between Kevinalewis and the_ed17, the two project coordinators, has led to us deciding to suspend elections for coordinators indefinitely. With the exceedingly low amount of participation in the last elections (five total votes), we do not feel that it is worth it to try to set up another election. 20 positions remain unfilled at the Job Centre. Members who are active project contributors are encouraged to apply even if they can only do a position for a short time. Collaboration of the Month This month's Collaboration has been selected by popular vote and is : Shantaram (novel). The next collaboration is due for selection in April, so cast your vote. Peer review and assessment news Peer Reviews are still open for four articles – Sector General, Petals of Blood, Scenes of Clerical Life, and Flowers for Algernon. Feel free to submit any novel-related article that you are working on for review, but please consider stopping by and reviewing an article; we need more reviewers for our articles (there is a PR that has been open since May)! – the_ed17 ( talk) Announcements and open tasks WikiProject Novels • (inc. novellas, novelettes & short stories) Announcements and open tasks ( watch • • discuss • changes) → Please help with tagging articles! Critique (Featured article): 33 achieved Novels WikiProject Peer reviews: • Sector General • Petals of Blood • Flowers for Algernon Improve: Oberon Old and New • The Age of Reason • Furies of Calderon • Wolf Brother • The Monk • The English Patient • Bones of the Moon Create: To the Vanishing Point • Spoilt City Recently a new worklist had been created and quietly arrived, the Cleanup listing which gives a fairly comprehensive hit list of "novels" related articles that have been tagged for something or other. Since then a new Article alerts listing has also been added of more topic and "urgent" items worthy of our attention.

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Answer

Okay that makes since, but how are we to go about Reassessing all of the articles unless we elect a group of coordinators or create a seperate branch totally devoted to the reassessing of Start and B-Class articles to C-Class articles. But the way you described it no B-Class articles will be moved down to C's because they meet all 5 of the criteria it would just be Start Articles being moved up to C-Class articles. (Is that what you meant?) Lord R. T. Oliver ^{The Olive Branch} 01:23, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Yes. All B-class articles are B. They don't need to be moved down. :) And, with the automation, I believe that even if "start" is in the "|class=" spot, it'll still appear and be categorized as a C if it fails only 2 B-class criterion(excepting B2, which is an instant-fail). — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 01:28, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

If you can express these things to the members of the WikiProject, and the other Coordinators I think they would possibly understand that the C-Class could be a good thing, but there are still a few cons that people might not be able to get over. Lord R. T. Oliver ^{The Olive Branch} 01:33, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Jackal

I'm just saying that it was finally time that he was held responsible for his actions.( Planecrash111 ( talk) 18:01, 8 March 2009 (UTC))

Nominations for the Military history WikiProject coordinator election

The Military history WikiProject coordinator selection process has started; to elect the coordinators to serve for the next six months. If you are interested in running, please sign up here by 23:59 (UTC) on 13 March!
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I'm a peculiar soul, aren't I?

The moment I say I leave the project, I finish it. Silly me. :P

Anyways, good luck with the article, pwn them all at FAC, etc., etc., — La Pianista ^{Speak ·  Hear} 05:37, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

<3 thanks :D I'm waiting for a Warship International magazine article to get here (they said that they would get it to me, after all...), but after that I will be sending it to FAC. ;) — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 15:08, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Good luck then, Eddie! <3

They're sending it snail-mail? (if you told me this on IRC and I forgot, forgive, please) I would think just e-mailing you a pdf would be faster. — La Pianista ^{Speak ·  Hear} 23:07, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

I really don't know. I have to check my mail, as I haven't in a few days ;) — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 03:31, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

:O (plus a quickie on IRC - something I want to show you). — La Pianista ^{Speak ·  Hear} 04:27, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Battle of the Utus

Hi ed! Thanks for the copyediting of the Battle of the Utus. As for your reasonable remarks:

• (The) Army in Emperor's Presence. Fixed.
• Circus factions (this is the name modern scholarship uses for calling them when "Blues and Greens is not used): Besides their function in the hippodrome and involvement in rioting, the circus factions (mainly Greens and Blues) of any large Byzantine city were invaluable for mobilizing the city's manpower (that is, the latter could not be effectively used without them), in periods of crisis. My main problem is that there is no article for them to link (it's a shame).
• Urgent: hmm, I think one of my references used it (I'll check it again). I am not a native speaker, so I have difficulties with copyediting things.
• Thermopylae: there is no information in the sources and the modern scholarship other than the location itself. I don't expect that there will be a wikipedia article for it.
• Callinicus: he is an obscure saint biographer without a Wikipedia article for him (however the name Callinicus is quite common) and I don't think there will be one in the near future. How do you think we should mention him? Would "saint biographer" be proper description? -- Dipa1965 ( talk) 06:38, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

No problem - it was an interesting article!

• How about you add that information into a note with a source? ;)
• It's alright! Even those who are native speakers can have trouble writing well!
• I didn't think there would be, but I was trying to point it out on the off chance that there was one and you had forgotten to add in a link :)
• Well...what exactly is a "saint biographer"? Someone who writes biographies of saints? — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 15:12, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Nice, I'l look on these! As for the "saint biographer", your guess was right but the term really sucks. Fortunately, I just found reliable sources mentioning the identity of Callinicus . He was a monk, sometimes called "Callinicus of rufinianae by the scholars.-- Dipa1965 ( talk) 18:05, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

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20:41, 9 March 2009 Twas Now (talk | contribs) (171,240 bytes) (this is supposed to be a summary, not an exhaustive report; the only thing missing is which pilots were circumcised) (undo)

Thanks-- B29bomber ( talk) 13:17, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

(TPS intrusion, as Ed hasn't responded). Are you asking who s/he is or why s/he did what s/he did? If you mean the latter, then I support User:Twas Now in his/her actions - the article is very complete - but too exhaustive, and not totally appropriate in style for Wikipedia. The article does read like a report at the moment, as the edit summary suggested. Icy // ♫ 21:18, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

A quick look at his userpage could answer that - please specify. — La Pianista ^{Speak ·  Hear} 23:04, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Ick. I looked at this before heading out the door and forgot to reply later. :/

On the flip side, GREAT work in cutting down the article to ~100 kb! — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 03:30, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Jackal4

You haven't been keeping close tabs on Jackal4 have you? Look at the AIV report. 3 three-revert rule violations after warning, multiple personal attacks, and vandalism. This is the reason why he is blocked.( Planecrash111 ( talk) 20:00, 13 March 2009 (UTC))

That's not the point. The block should have been implemented at the time; 17 hours after he stopped editing is just punishing him, which is not what blocks are for. — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 21:49, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

The original witness just didn't report it to AIV. I had to do it on my own time. He needs to be punished anyway...look at his history.( Planecrash111 ( talk) 01:40, 14 March 2009 (UTC))

Good Luck

Good Luck on the Election for Coordinator! I Hope you Make It! Lord R. T. Oliver ^{The Olive Branch} 00:40, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Good luck to you too. Cheers! — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 01:40, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

C-Class

It is great to see such diversity in the Military History WikiProject. Even though we don't agree on this subject I still respect your opinion and it seems that one of us will have to bow to the consensus of the WikiProject. Have A Great Day! Lord R. T. Oliver ^{The Olive Branch} 01:19, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

A Heads Up

Since you have commented on the Planecrash111's sockpuppet accusation of JustSomeRandomGuy32‎, I wanted to make you aware of an ongoing ANI post about the two. - NeutralHomer • Talk • March 14, 2009 @ 05:33

Lovely. I think that I will keep to myself for the moment; I've said how I feel at the SSI already. Thanks for the heads up though! — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 05:36, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Not a problem :) Take Care... NeutralHomer • Talk • March 14, 2009 @ 05:52

Hey Ed

Hi Ed. I'm back after another break. How's it going? I've decided to resume my work on Railways in Buckinghamshire- my last edit to it before today was on the 27th January! Keep up the great work with all your MILHIST stuff! See ya! Oliver Fury, Esq. message • contributions 22:49, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

It's alright! RL is stealing some of my Wikipedia time, so now I'm only on as much as normal editors. :P I'm getting ready to take Design 1047 battlecruiser to FAC after I incorporate some info from a magazine article I just got, and I'm also working on Design B-65 battlecruiser.

Good luck with that article! Ping me if you need any help! — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 01:17, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Thought on the Bedford-Bletchley line: are there two? My book says that the line was originally operated by the London and North Western Railway, and nothing about a Oxford and Bletchley Railway. Could I be trying to help and actually adding wrong info? :/ — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 01:35, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

The Oxford and Bletchley railway built the line now known as the Bedford-Bletchley line. The entire company was absorbed by the LNWR in 1879, which then operated the line until 1922, I think. Your book might not go into specific detail about original companies.

That stuff about the Duke of Bedford sounds good. Thanks for helping! Oliver Fury, Esq. message • contributions 02:19, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

No, it doesn't :) Thanks!

No problem! You've got a great article there; keep it up! — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 03:43, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Removing tags

I'm only removing tags where there's nothing to translate. The good ones I'm converting to the new {{ Expand language}} templates. I've asked WP:ECHO but no one has replied. I don't think anyone participates in that project anymore. Calliopejen1 ( talk) 02:05, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Haruna

Hey, Ed, I've addressed all of your issues with Japanese battleship Haruna. Could you pop back into take another look? Cam ^{( Chat)} 06:23, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Sure! I'll do so right now. — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 06:26, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

A-Class review Wolfgang Lüth

I'm not sure what you meant by your last comment. Could you give me an example? MisterBee1966 ( talk) 12:03, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

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Help needed

Here. See the email I sent you as well. - MBK ₀₀₄ 22:19, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Email received. I'll respond tomorrow, I've got an early wake-up to look forward to :( - MBK ₀₀₄ 04:11, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

No problem. Good luck tomorrow! — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 04:17, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

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First Edit Day

Happy First Edit Day, The ed17/Archives/14, from the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Have a great day!

Wow...it has seriously been three years? Geesh lol :) — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 04:37, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Likewise. Happy 1st editing day, Ed! :-) TomStar81 ( Talk) 05:07, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

-Applause- Queenie 16:13, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks everyone! :) — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 16:20, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Hey there, granpaw, you gonna share any pearls of wisdom with us whippersnappers? Parsecboy ( talk) 16:26, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

What're you talkin' 'bout, mon? Your almost as old as I am! :P

"# 12:27, 31 July 2006 (hist) (diff) Talk:Hassan Nasrallah ‎ (→This article is far beyond neutral.)" — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 16:27, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Hey, 4 months is a long time. Interestingly enough, the first 8 edits were my first edits to the 'pedia (on a shared IP allocated to Fort Bragg). Parsecboy ( talk) 16:55, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

:O Violation of WP:NOT#FORUM! :D — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 16:57, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Hey, that wasn't me! I was in Iraq in 2005! Parsecboy ( talk) 17:00, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Oh fine. :P — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 17:03, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

What, no apology for a false accusation? Maybe we need to take a trip over to WP:WQA... :p Parsecboy ( talk) 17:14, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

(out) - Ed is hiding from Parsec. — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 19:12, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm watching you! :-D Parsecboy ( talk) 20:09, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Really? You've sunk to the level of having to stalk people? ;) — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 20:38, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Hey, you gotta do what you gotta do :p Besides, I'm bored waiting around for someone to review Moltke class battlecruiser for GA.I should be studying for my two finals tomorrow, but I'm procrastinating :) Parsecboy ( talk) 20:42, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

I should be studying too. :(

Good luck with finding someone to review that... (I'm assuming good faith and thinking that you weren't trying to canvass. :PPPP) But seriously, if no one steals it first, I'll take it on this weekend. — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 21:00, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I figured you keep an eye on the GAN page and already saw it. I'm hoping someone gets to it before Friday. I'm getting my tonsils out on Friday, so I don't think I'll be able to do much fixing while in my painkiller-addled state :) Maybe I should leave a note to that effect somewhere...

I just finished my German homework, but I still need to look over my history stuff... Parsecboy ( talk) 21:13, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

I do, actually. Good guess :P Maybe you could ping Dana boomer ( talk · contribs) or Wandalstouring ( talk · contribs)? And ewwww...tonsils out.

I need to make a website and study geography... — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 22:07, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

See? I know things :) Maybe I'll drop a line on their talk pages.

What geography are you studying? I took a class on economic and social geography last quarter, it was pretty interesting. Parsecboy ( talk) 22:18, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Human geography; the study of population and everything related to that :) It's not bad, but I'd like history more! — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 22:21, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, history is usually the best. I'm pretty excited for next quarter. I'll be taking a class on WWII, taught by Petraeus's old XO; he's supposed to be really good. It should be good times. Parsecboy ( talk) 22:28, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

(out) - oooo. I am jealous...lucky. :) — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 22:29, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

That's what you get when you go to a big school :) Parsecboy ( talk) 22:38, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Re: copyedit

I never mind copyeditting, just make sure that you leave a message for me so I know what the nature of the edit is. Its a work in progress though, so I suspect that some of this may change before publishing. TomStar81 ( Talk) 05:06, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

DYK for 14"/50 caliber railway gun

On 17 March, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article 14"/50 caliber railway gun, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Coordinator

It seems we have our ninth official candidate with 20 or 20+ endorsements, congratulations! Have A Great Day! Lord R. T. Oliver ^{The Olive Branch} 12:18, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Polish culture during World War II

Thank you for pointing MoS issues. I'll try to address them over the coming days, could you help with fixing them as well? -- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 16:20, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

I can try; coming up, I've got a lot on my plate with RL and Wiki commitments. I promise that I will do what I can though! — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 16:25, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Just a question

I have no clue why I'm asking here and not at the help desk, but ANYWAY .... if an actor happens to voice two characters, do I write it like -

• J. Pat O'Malley voiced Colonel Hathi the elephant/Buzzie the vulture -description of the characters-

-OR-

• J. Pat O'Malley voiced Colonel Hathi the elephant -description of Colnel Hathi - He also voiced Buzzie the vulture -then a description of Buzzie-.

Help? Queenie 19:21, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

I thought that it was the other way around—like this:

• Colonel Hathi (J. Pat O'Malley): descrip
• Buzzie the vulture (J. Pat O'Malley): descrip — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 19:25, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I think you're right. That was the way I found the article when I found it, and I presumed it was right. Thanks! Queenie 19:29, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

No prob! :) — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 19:30, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Wait; I'm modelling the article I'm working on on WALL-E [a GA], which has the actors first. Which is it then? Queenie 19:32, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

I think that it can go either way, but I really don't know. :/ — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 19:58, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

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HMS Archer (D78)

I've expanded the lead a bit, but leads aren't my strong point. Article has been nom'd for GA and DYK. Mjroots ( talk) 20:18, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Sorry for the late reply. I'll review it this weekend if no one has taken it. ;) — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 13:24, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Coordinators

There are currently 12 members with 20 or 20+, and it has been less than a week so far, that means there is two spots left. The turnout has been great. Have A Great Day! Lord R. T. Oliver ^{The Olive Branch} 21:28, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Ello.

I'm baaaaaaack. :D

Pop up on IRC if you have the time - it's been too long, amigo. — La Pianista ^{♫ ♪} 04:49, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

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		Thank you for your comments on the Australian light destroyer project ACR. Nick-D ( talk) 01:27, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

No problem...but thank you for writing that article; it was a very interesting read! Cheers friend, — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 02:28, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

A favor, perchance?

Hey there, old buddy, old pal. Nassau class battleship just passed ACR (which finally makes 3 for me. I know, I'm slow :) ). Since you're a fancy MILHIST coordinator, can you get me one of those pretty A-class medals? (you know, the one that Belhalla has about 20 of?) I don't know how it all works, so I figured I'd ask you :) Parsecboy ( talk) 16:09, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Hey dude...nice way to suck up. :PPP Take a look here please! :) — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 16:46, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Well, you know, I figured I'd try to grease the wheels a little :) Thanks for the help! Parsecboy ( talk) 16:48, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

We've got you covered for the next time though. MBK likes to keep track of them, so he would have gotten you on his next run-through. And it was no problem! — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 16:50, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Ah, yes, I thought he had some sort of tracker set up, but I didn't know where it was. Maybe he's the one to whom I should be sucking up next time? :p Parsecboy ( talk) 16:56, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Hahaha no, just suck up to any coord :P — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 16:57, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

White Deer Hole Creek

Thanks for your hidden comments at White Deer Hole Creek - I will review all of the "as of DATE" statements and change the ones that can be updated to "as of 2009". The Amish sawmill was rebuilt but I do not have a reliable source for it - the best I have found so far is the 2008 school bus schedule for the local school district here, which shows stops in Elimsport and 1 minute later at the sawmill. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 03:07, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Ah; I just wanted to point it out. :) The article was a fun read, by the way! Cheers, — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 03:12, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

I will keep digging and polishing the article - thanks again and for your support on the request, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 10:49, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

It was my pleasure. :) Cheers, — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 13:19, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Tosa class

Hey, Ed. I figured that Tosa class battleship has been GA-quality since we finished it, so I just nom-ed it for GA. You may want to keep an eye on the review page. Cheers, Parsecboy ( talk) 14:03, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Baha. I forgot about that page. :) Sounds good! We need to find a better source than the "Idiot's Guide to Aircraft carriers" though...why did I use that again? :/ — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 15:18, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Lol, I had forgotten you had used that. I'm sure we'll be able to dig something up; Kaga isn't exactly all that obscure ;) Parsecboy ( talk) 15:30, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, exactly...I'm looking now. ;) — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 15:31, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

I just found a seemingly ok book to replace the Idiot's Guide - this. I already replaced the refs in the article, should be ok on that point now :) Parsecboy ( talk) 15:44, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Oh, you think we ought to get a scan of the line drawing somewhere? I'd just scan in the one in Conway's, but I'm home (and thus, away from my scanner, and incidentally, away from my copy of Conway's) so I can't get mine. You don't have access to a scanner, do you? Parsecboy ( talk) 15:55, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

I can look—I'd be rather disappointed in my school if my library didn't have one. — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 16:19, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Sounds good. The painkillers I took a little while ago are starting to kick in, so I'm off to a nap :) I'll be back in a few hours, probably. Parsecboy ( talk) 16:28, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Hahaha don't let the bed bugs bite! ;P — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 16:32, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Lol. The chaps at the surgery center have this uncanny ability to call to check up on me right in the middle of a nap. :-/ But at least I'm up and back on Wikipedia, right? :p Parsecboy ( talk) 18:15, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

(Out) I went ahead and tracked down the crappy version in Google books. It'll have to do until I can scan in a better one once I get home. Parsecboy ( talk) 19:03, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

That's all that counts in life. :P

That one doesn't look even close to as bad as the Amagi one was, at least. I'll check for a scanner in my library tomorrow, as I have to work tonight. :/

BTW, I am beyond sure that you would be interested in this. ;) — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 19:12, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I had seen your comment there. For a start, the images here would of course be useful to me :) Parsecboy ( talk) 19:21, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

I thought they might. :) Just hold off on uploading them for a sec; I think that a new template is needed...these aren't original works of the U.S. Navy or Federal Government. — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 19:33, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I was going to wait on that development. I started working on SMS Seydlitz today, and DANFS has a bunch of good photos of the ship. It looks like most of them are already uploaded to Commons, but for the eventual FAC, I'd like to have the more ironclad licensing information that the new template (I think) will provide. Parsecboy ( talk) 22:43, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Milhist query

Hi Ed, long time no squeak. I've got a query for you and hope you can put me in touch with the right editors in Milhist. I've just prodded a probable hoax and then looked through the authors other edits I came upon Lajinaa, a spear from circa 1800. Googling it gets several refs back here plus stuff about a Spanish spear shaped knife or paring knife... Do you know who would be best to cast an eye over it? Ϣere SpielChequers 19:19, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Stop by more often then ;) Nice new sig, by the way!

Hmmm. I don't think that we have a spear-specialist in MILHIST that is active (at least that I know off)...off the top of my head, I'd think that Wandalstouring ( talk · contribs) is your best best. Cheers friend, — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 20:08, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks on both counts (your the first to comment on the new sig). Ϣere SpielChequers 20:31, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome, although that surprises me, becuase I like it! :) — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 20:36, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks so much for your support vote (it garnered a lot of other supports from users). I hope I do fine too. Regards, -- Al Ameer son ( talk) 21:06, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

No problem; you looked like the type of user that deserved a support like that. Again, congratulations and have fun with your new tools! — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 03:56, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm testing at the "New Admin School" right now. I will get to real admin work in a day or two after I've attained most of the knowledge of the admin tools. Cheers Ed! -- Al Ameer son ( talk) 04:05, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

OMG! WTF?

TMD TLA! – Juliancolton ^Talk · ^Review 03:50, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

:-) — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 03:54, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Contacting Naval History & Heritage Command

I found an egregious error at the N.H.C.'s South Carolina Class page, and am wondering whether to just contact the webmaster since none of the Command branches seem to have an email address. For the record, the error is the old saw "Though the South Carolinas were actually designed before Dreadnought" - Decidedly unimpressed! If only someone would pay me for the reading I do!! Should I just email the webmaster or is there another way you might know of to bring this up with them? Cheers, -- Simon Harley ( talk | library | book reviews) 14:04, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

...guess who was under the impression that the South Carolina's were designed before Dradnought until about a minute ago... :/

The email address I have is for their photo department, which I would assume(?) is what you need... photos AT navyhistory DOT org. Cheers Simon, — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 14:26, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Another myth busted ;). I guess it is the photographic section I need to get in touch with. Much obliged for the email address!! They don't seem to advertise it on their pages (probably a smart move).-- Simon Harley ( talk | library | book reviews) 15:05, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Re: Commenting on A-class noms

I used to comment on FACs back in the old days... figured I may try something similar again. Plus, if I want more reviews of my work (btw, I think I've addressed most of your points), it's only fair I help out in return, isn't it? :) -- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 19:55, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Happy Saint Patrick’s Day!

On behalf of the Wikipedia:Kindness Campaign, we just want to spread Wikipedia:WikiLove by wishing you a Happy Saint Patrick’s Day! Sincerely, -- A Nobody ^{My talk} 15:25, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks; back at ya! :) — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 15:27, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

• Top of the mornin' to ya! – Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 16:25, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

And back at you, my friend :) — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 16:29, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Joining the bandwagon: Happy Saint Patrick's Day! Little Mountain 5 ^{Happy St. Patrick's Day!} 20:50, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Wow. I feel loved; everyone is coming here to wish me a good one! :) Happy Saint Pat's to you too! — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 21:01, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Everyone except me, of course, who happened to...ah, skim your talk page and dropped upon this nearly a week later.

On the other hand, I certainly look forward to seeing the fool on his favorite day of the year. :) — La Pianista ^{♫ ♪} 03:06, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

WikiBirthday

I saw from here that it's been exactly three years since you joined the project. Happy WikiBirthday! Keep up the good work, rʨanaɢ  ^talk/ _contribs 17:54, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Rjanag! :) — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 19:12, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Lord, I missed this, too.

Happy late Birthday, Eddie. As a present, you can remember how I nearly lost this to da archive monsta. — La Pianista ^{♫ ♪} 03:07, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

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Capture of Fort Ticonderoga

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This guy will never give up - MBK ₀₀₄ 04:44, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

It's time for bed; I'll take an in-depth look tomorrow. — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 04:47, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Take your time, I'm still overwhelmed with school work until Saturday and won't be fully-able (luckily I was able to take some time today and get a moderate level of activity). - MBK ₀₀₄ 04:49, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Does he understand our view here? We have a source that we think is 100% reliable, but now a random (no offense to him) guy has come along and says that there are many errors, quoting from a 100-year old logbook. Almost all of the sources we have do not confirm nor deny that—with the exception of DANFS, which does confirm it. — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 17:15, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

And he claims to have sent a list of the errors to the Navy in 2005 to correct DANFS. If DANFS hasn't been fixed yet ... you tell me who has the credibility, him or the Navy. He would say himself, but per policy we have to say the Navy. - MBK ₀₀₄ 18:46, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Out of curiousity, would the Navy not have the same logbook in their possession? Maybe you could email them and ask them to confirm or deny some/all of these allegations? — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 18:50, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Connecticut photo

Hi, Ed. I still don't think the image's copyright status is clearly established. Is the image in the book you cited? It's probably a Navy image, but unless we know for sure, it would be a problem if the article ever goes to WP:FAR. Parsecboy ( talk) 20:36, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

No, it's his great-grandfather's. I'll send the email he sent me to OTRS. — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 20:39, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Well, can he confirm that his great-grandfather died 70 or more years ago? If so, then it's fine, I suppose. Parsecboy ( talk) 20:56, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

No, he doesn't have too—that's the beauty of {PD-heir} on Commons! :D "The heirs of the creator of this work released it into the public domain."

BTW, you can upload those NHC images you wanted now; didn't know if you saw the additional note I left here. — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 20:58, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Hey, that'll work. Glad to see that all worked out (since it is a nice, high-res image)

Yeah, I'll get around to uploading those NHC photos at some point. I'll be back at my apartment sometime tomorrow, so maybe this weekend sometime. Parsecboy ( talk) 21:06, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

I am too :)

Hope you are having fun! — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 21:07, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm still a little rough from the tonsillectomy a week ago. The pain killers are working ok, but I'm still not back up to snuff. Not to say I'm not enjoying the time off from classes though :) I actually got a lot done while I've been home. I more or less finished rewriting SMS Seydlitz in a couple of days—I see you found the DYK nom ;) Parsecboy ( talk) 21:17, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Hahaha time away from classes is GREAT, isn't it? And yes, I did find the DYK nom...but I swear that I wasn't stalking you! I have both WT:DYK and T:TDYK on my watchlist, and I saw one of your edits when I checked my watchlist; I just went back later. :-) Congrats on Seydlitz; that looks like a great article! — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 21:54, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Congrats!

Congrats on your election as a Coordinator of the Military history Wikiproject! In keeping with the tradition of the project and in honor of your achievement, I present you with these stars. TomStar81 ( Talk) 00:51, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Tom :) Congrats to you too! — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 00:55, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

I am honored that I was elected to my new position of assistant coordinator, and look forward to working with you for the next six months. Lord Oliver ^{The Olive Branch} 01:31, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

As am I. — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 01:32, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thank you very much for your support for me in the Military History coordinator elections. I am honored that I was elected to my new position of assistant coordinator, and look forward to working with you for the next six months. – Joe N 01:13, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm very glad you made it, Joe; you will make a fine coord. Cheers, — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 01:31, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you

		Milhist Coordinator elections
		I wish to thank you for your gracious support during my bid for a position as Coordinator of the Military history Wikiproject in the recent March 2009 elections. I was initially apprehensive to stand for election as I was unsure on how well I would be received, but I am pleasantly surprised and delighted to have been deemed worthy to represent my peers within the project. I assure and promise you, I will strive to do my upmost to justify your trust in myself with this esteemed position. Thank you, Abraham, B.S. ( talk) 01:17, 29 March 2009 (UTC) Soldiers of the 4th Australian Division crossing a duckboard track through Chateau Wood, Ypres on 29 October 1917.

Pah. "Pleasantly surprised"? You were a shoo-in from the moment you entered your name. ;-) — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 01:32, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Passive voice

[1] :) — La Pianista ^{♫ ♪} 18:48, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Hey, Eddie - I've stopped c/e-ing at "Armament." Do you want me to wait 'til you add more to it or should I go on? — La Pianista ^{♫ ♪} 00:10, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Yes please - I have one more para to add there. :-) — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 00:16, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Are you done? Looks like some stuff has been added from where I last left off...should I start over? — La Pianista ^{♫ ♪} 05:43, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Heads up

[2] — La Pianista ^{♫ ♪} 17:26, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you

	I seem to have drawn a crowd of support!
	I'm honored to have been elected as a coordinator of the WikiProject Military history and most sincerely thank you for your vote of support. I will endeavor to fulfill the obligations in a manner worthy of your trust. Many thanks. — Bellhalla ( talk) 14:14, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
	A World War I U-boat draws a crowd after grounding on the Falmouth coast in 1921.

Re:1047

It looks good ed. One suggestion though: the word "however" appears quit a bit on the main text of the article, including instances where it is the first work at the start of some sentences. I would consider finding alternative words for however, or if at all possible simply removing the word for the body of the article altogether. Good luck with the article. TomStar81 ( Talk) 22:20, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Alright :-) It was stupid mistakes like that that I was praying you'd find! Thanks! — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 00:26, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Here's something that made me say "huh?". In the "Design studies" section, there's the line "...used in the new Italian battleships for their cruisers." It doesn't quite make sense to me. Parsecboy ( talk) 00:47, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Whoops. Ed did not give enough context to the reader there. :) — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 00:50, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Speaking in the 3rd person, are we now? Parsecboy ( talk) 01:00, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

9.9 oh hush. — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 01:01, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

April Fool's

Yeah, I know! Some of the DYKs are priceless :D Parsecboy ( talk) 02:11, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

You gotta join the party, man. the_ed17 :  Chat  02:13, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

As you might have noticed, I've never played around with my signature. I know there's a thing in the preferences tab for it, but I don't know exactly how to do it. A little help here? Parsecboy ( talk) 02:15, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

n00b. :P

"Preferences", scroll down to "signature", copy/paste this in: {{subst:User:X!/nothing|Parsecboy}}, click the "raw signature" checkbox. If you ever want to create your own sig, see User:The ed17/signature/classroom. :) the_ed17 :  Chat  02:19, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm pretty n00bish when it comes to these things. Thanks :) Parsecboy :  Chat  02:22, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

No prob. Interesting sig you chose... ;) the_ed17 :  Chat  02:23, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I thought it looked good on me :) Parsecboy :  Chat  02:42, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

RE:GAN

Thank-you! I need a break from Calculus homework, so I'll give 1047 a full-review (if you took Calc, I feel for you. If you didn't, I applaud you intelligence;) Cam ^{( Chat)} 03:33, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm in pre-calc with a crappy professor right now, so I sort of know. :( Thanks in advance for the review though! :) the_ed17 :  Chat  03:37, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm in IB Calculus Standard-Level, which is sort of similar. Either way, it ends up being painful, curve-sketching especially. Cam ^{( Chat)} 04:45, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Ouch. And yes, I know that it's painful; I'm carrying a C right now. -_- Thanks for the FAC review! the_ed17 :  Chat  05:08, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

I feel both of your pain. I am horrible in math, and am being forced to take Statistics next semester (university and major core curriculum). I am definitely not looking forward to that. - MBK ₀₀₄ 05:14, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm holding a B. Stats is a wretched little course. Cam ^{( Chat)} 05:38, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Hey again

Hey,

I've just completed a pretty detailed drawing of the Worcester class light cruiser. If you want me to upload it, let me know.

Regards —Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.78.3.228 ( talk) 03:54, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

You're kidding me. I've been thinking about expanding that article for a Did you know?, though I don't know when I will get to it. But yes, I'd love it! :-) the_ed17 :  Chat  03:57, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Hainan Island incident

Good catch on the image question; I saw that caption go in ages ago and should have made the connection you did. The image is now nominated for deletion at Commons, and I have removed it from the article. I think a case could be made for retaining it as a fair use pic, and have suggested this on the article talk. Once again, thank you for noticing what I should have noticed. -- John ( talk) 03:59, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

No problem, and I agree that it needs to be retained as fair use (but it needs to be moved here for that to happen :P) the_ed17 :  Chat  04:05, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

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Dutch East Indies campaign

Sorry, Ed. Just logged in to check how things are going but I didn't have enough time to do anything properly. I don't think I'll be able to help any more on this before the DYK. I guess I'll have to find a round tuit sometime soon... Chamal ^talk 13:17, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

No problem, Chamal. RL trumps WP. :-) Thanks for the help you were able to give! — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 13:27, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Your inappropriate behavior

You should've redacted the personal attacks made by Roux ( talk · contribs) against me if you want to abide by "the rule", not intervened and quoted WP:POINTy "ESSAY". As long as Roux deletes it, you're no authority doing so.-- Caspian blue 13:20, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

( edit conflict) ...why don't you can take his talk page off of your watchlist and leave him alone? And what positive effect will come about from templating him? — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 13:25, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Why don't you can't take his talk page off of your watchlist and leave me alone? What positive effect will come about from letting him produce personal attacks? Warning is warning to prevent further disruption.-- Caspian blue 13:30, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Why don't you leave him alone when he is trying to separate himself from you to prevent, well, this from happening?

You're telling me that you believe that this was a personal attack? "I am simultaneously singularly uninterested in anything Caspian Blue does, and very specifically interested in keeping the hell away from his shotgun blasts of incivility and personal attacks. So, no."

Um, have you ever read WP:DTTR...? Templating him will, in all likeliness, increase the disruption. — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 13:36, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

The Essay says Essays may represent minority viewpoints. Heed them or not at your own discretion. Read WP:NPA#Why personal attacks are harmful again. He mocks me with the extremely "vicious languages", so I gave him the warning. Instead of the essay, I tell you this: your unwarranted intervention already increases the disruption.-- Caspian blue 13:43, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

He's trying to keep "the hell away from" your posts, which he believes are incivil; why don't you extend Roux the same courtesy he was extending to you? — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 13:46, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

He had been keeping in my ways for the past months. I'm the one who wants to keep "the hell away from him" because I believe his presence in my life very harmful. Since he has shown no courtesy and made such ad hominen attacks, your comment sounds very unconvicing.-- Caspian blue 13:56, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Not really. As disruptive as a personal attack is, it's equally as disruptive to drop a generic template on an established editor. A polite, hand-written note would have been far more effective. – Juliancolton |  ^Talk 13:47, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

He is not an "established constructive editor" in my view. Period.-- Caspian blue 13:52, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

If not for his 15,000 edits, 14 barnstars, and and DYKs, I'd agree with you. – Juliancolton |  ^Talk 13:58, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Some user had scored more "accomplishment" than any other, and got almost be elected as admin. But well, that establishment means something to the community over his "incivility incident"?-- Caspian blue 14:06, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Roux != Ecoleetage, by the way. – Juliancolton |  ^Talk 14:08, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

In my understanding of the "established "constructive editor", "civility" is indispensable.-- Caspian blue 14:16, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

He is in the view of a lot of people in this community, as are you, Caspian blue. Sorry to butt in, but looks to me like nobody here assumed bad faith in the first place, but then everybody started doing it together. This really sounds to me like going and knocking at your neighbour's door and telling him to "get the hell out of my face" and then he in turn comes and does the same to you. Chamal ^talk 14:03, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Your support is required...

My Minion-

I require your support in my current bid for absolute power over the Wiki. As your Glorious God-Emperor and Editor-in-Chief, I expect a favorable vote from you during this vital process. Thank you. Nutiketaiel ( talk) 13:04, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Figured I'd let you know...

that I finally got m'self a copy of Conway's All the World's Fighting Ships 1860-1905. So if you ever need my help with it, just let me know :) Parsecboy ( talk) 20:23, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Awesome! :D — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 20:42, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

WikiCup Newsletter

The WikiCup Newsletter

The WikiCup Newsletter Round I, Issue 10 - March 31, 2009 Archive before | Archive after Content Leaders As of this newsletter, the following is a list of participants with the most: Featured articles Gary King and Juliancolton have both had 3 successful featured article nominations. Featured lists Matthewedwards has had 7 successful featured list nominations. Featured topics Scorpion0422 and Mitchazenia have both had 1 successful featured topic nomination. Featured pictures Durova has had 54 successful featured picture nominations. Featured sounds Shoemaker's Holiday has had 7 successful featured sound nominations. Featured portals Sunderland06 has had 1 successful featured portal nomination. Good topics Scorpion0422, Theleftorium, Gary King and Climie.ca have all had 1 successful good topic nomination. Good articles Mitchazenia has had 34 successful good article nominations. Did you know? items Candlewicke has had 53 successful "Did you know?" nominations. In the news items Candlewicke has had 28 successful "In the News" nominations. Biggest Jumps This week, the players with the biggest difference between their points last fortnight, and their points this week are: Rank User LF TF D 1 Durova 1713 1932 219 2 Mitchazenia 951 1167 216 3 Scorpion0422 683 788 105 4 ThinkBlue 291 386 95 5 Shoemaker's Holiday 791 873 82 6 Theleftorium 990 1060 70 7 Sasata 513 581 68 8 Rlevse 224 290 66 9 Matthewedwards 630 695 65 10 97198 314 360 46 LF = Last Week's score, TF = This Week's score, D = Difference between last week and this week's scores A full list is located at Wikipedia:WikiCup/Jumps From the Judges What a brilliant finale to Round 1. With so little in it it was always going to be a tight contest, particularly in the all-important wildcard places. Congratulations to all those who have made it to Round 2, and commiserations to all who have been eliminated. I hope you continue to contribute as fully as you have been in the tournament, if not better! As has been stated before, Round 2 begins Wednesday, April 1 2009. I hope you are all ready!  GARDEN , iMatthew // talk, and The Helpful One If you don't wish to receive this newsletter in the future, remove your name from this list. If you are not a participant, but would still like to receive this newsletter, feel free to add your name to the list. WikiCup At a Glance As of this newsletter, the WikiCup participants have collected a total of: 20 Featured articles 32 Featured lists 2 Featured topics 135 Featured pictures 21 Featured sounds 1 Featured portal 2 Good topics 143 Good articles 304 Did you know? items 49 In the news items Pool winners In this round of the WikiCup, the top two contestants from each pool, along with ten wildcards, will advance to the next round. As of this newsletter, the current pool leaders are: Pool A Gary King (1154) Spencer (377) Pool B Shoemaker's Holiday (1055) La Pianista (74) Pool C Scorpion0422 (944) Candlewicke (806) Pool D ThinkBlue (444) 97198 (374) Pool E Sasata (604) X! (216) Pool F Rlevse (405) Bedford (331) Pool G Sunderland06 (236) Ceranthor (190) Pool H Juliancolton (686) Dendodge (220) Pool I Theleftorium (1107) Durova (961) Pool J Mitchazenia (1180) Matthewedwards (702) Wildcard winners Useight (659) Paxse (507) Rambo's Revenge (333) the_ed17 (330) J Milburn (302) Climie.ca (265) Catalan (256) Ottava Rima (190) Wrestlinglover (169) Tinucherian (162) All scores are accurate as of the end of Round 1.

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1047s

I'm wondering why you put the FAC at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Design 1047 battlecruiser/archive1, and not Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Design 1047 battlecruiser? Doesn't it only go to the archive if it's failed? Parsecboy ( talk) 22:01, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

There's a new naming system for 'em; see this. :-) — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 22:03, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Ah, I see. Guess I should pay more attention to these things, shouldn't I? :) Parsecboy ( talk) 22:09, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

...or you could subscribe to the Signpost. ;) — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 22:11, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Bah, that's too easy. I'd rather stumble about blindly :) Parsecboy ( talk) 22:18, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Always the hard way, eh? — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 22:20, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

But of course! It's more fun that way. Parsecboy ( talk) 22:22, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

GAN Request

Hey, Ed, would you have time to GA-Review Operation Charnwood? Cam ^{( Chat)} 22:37, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Sure! I'll do it tonight. Cheers, — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 23:37, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

April Fool's DYK for SS Lesbian (1923)

On April Fool's, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article SS Lesbian (1923), which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Thank you for your contribution to April Fool's Day 2009! Royal broil 22:25, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

FAC

Hello. I have raised a question about the fair use rationale on the FAC page, and have also posed the question to an editor who works with copyright questions. [3] It would be a shame to lose the image but I'm not sure it meets the fair use criteria. Regards, Kablammo ( talk) 23:53, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Yes, it would be a shame, but copyright > good picture. :-) Thanks for noticing this, and I hope that it all gets sorted out! Cheers, — Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 02:18, 2 April 2009 (UTC)