Just Letting You Know

I'm back from my extremely short wikibreak. And that's it. The Fascist Chicken 21:27, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

K, nice to have you back. R e dwolf24 ( talk) 01:32, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

Congrats!

Congrats on surpassing 8,000 edits! - Roby Wayne ^{Talk •  Hist} 23:08, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks :) R e dwolf24 ( talk) 01:32, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

User 1337-N category

Category:User_1337-N sucks, can you fix it? That template and that category were terribly written like that. I fixed the template, can you fix the cat? I have too much of a life to be doing this..heh. -- Phroziac ^{( talk)} 00:45, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

Not now, busy. Message me later in IRC. R e dwolf24 ( talk) 01:32, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

I fixed it. It was pretty bad. Jaxl | talk 03:27, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

O no Mr Bill

I just seen some page addition asking Who? :) ∞ Who ?¿? 02:05, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

Check RfA! R e dwolf24 ( talk) 02:05, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

yea, thats the one I was referring too. Just seen it in my watchlist as soon as you added it. Now to think of all the answers to all those pesky questions, yay. ∞ Who ?¿? 02:07, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

Hey, you still have a comment in there dated 11 Sep and referring to your sandbox. Is that deliberate? - Splash ^talk 02:08, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

Whoops! R e dwolf24 ( talk) 02:08, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

Template:Test-b

Red, I have created a template intended for notifing a user that a test has been reverted and references the article in question. It is tailored after {{test}}. I would appreciate your opinion and input. Thanks! Psy guy ^(talk) 03:14, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

looks fine. R e dwolf24 ( talk) 03:18, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

I think it looks good as well. In the future, you may want to consider proposing template creation on Wikipedia talk:Template messages first and create it as a user subpage, but for this specific one, it would probably have been better to propose it on one of the Test talk pages. They are watched by quite a few users and you would have fairly quick feedback. This way you avoid it being thrown up on WP:TFD and you can get immediate input before you create it in template space. I have created quite a few templates, some of which I should have proposed first :) ∞ Who ?¿? 07:15, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

I see the poll is not going well

Well its seems my friends are not going to let me retire after all. While the Assembly has been soundly defeated there is also great division among the other alternatives. I have drafted a compromise and I'd like to run it by you and Ambi before I post it the reform page. The Administrator General, Admin Gen, will be the only goverment functionary elected to a four month term. Redwolf is acknwoledged as the current Admin Gen and will set the date for an election to be held within the month. The Admin Gen's terms cannot be consecutive, and may not nominate themselves for the postion. Only Esperanzian members on the date before and election begins can vote. This allows a minimal amount of bureaurcracy The issue of government expanison will be taken up when/if Esperanza passes 150 members. If you and Ambi, can consolidate most of Esperanza it should break the current facitionalism and unite the organization behind you and its goals. - JCarriker 18:21, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

Sounds great actually. But I want to see the group's opinion on the advisory committee, just getting rid of them before the polls end would make me seem two faced :-/ R e dwolf24 ( talk) 01:32, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

• Why not place it as one of the options on the table and let Esperanzians decide? I have been infomed by a post that Ambi is willing to support this, in other words you'll win over your greatest critics. Since you are conducting polls I see no reason not to propose this as an option, especially since the charter has now been, through your own precedent, to be seen as unpermanent, at least until passed by referendum. - JCarriker 03:22, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

K, then put it on the table. R e dwolf24 ( talk) 03:23, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

Wow, that makes everything WAAAAAAAYYYYY simpler!-- E xir Kamalabadi ^{Feel free to criticize me} 08:32, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

How to use chinese character or any template available.

Hi,

Willl you please let me know how to use the Chinese character so that can be read in all web instead of having such mark ??? Thanks-- YSC Fan 06:21, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

That has nothing to do with Wikipedia, it has to do with your computer. If your computer doesn't have Chinese installed on it, i.e. from its startup disc, you see ????. R e dwolf24 ( talk) 22:29, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

Another Esperanza heading on your talk page

Hi there Redwolf24. I desire to have Esperanza in my signature, can you tell me how to do it? Thanks, and keep spamming me with any Esperanza news! Banes 08:23, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

Special:Preferences->Raw Signatures on->Type in the box [[User:Banes|Banes]] ^{[[WP:ESP|<font color="green">Esperanza</font>]]} Which becomes:

Banes ^Esperanza

Or you can do it this way: [[User:Banes|<font color="darkblue">Ban</font>]][[Wikipedia:Esperanza|<font color="green">e</font>]][[User:Banes|<font color="darkblue">s</font>]]

Which becomes:

Ban e s

R e dwolf24 ( talk) 22:29, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

Bored

Im bored you got an tasks i can do like that arent on "tasks to do". Job E 6 02:53, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for answering the question, I was very confused becuase I've read of other ways to welcome new members, and was unsure of using that particular method.

Johann Wolfgang T ... C
17:03, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

RfA

Just to say thanks for supporting my RfA. Please let me know if you see me screw up. -- Doc (?) 18:57, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Esperanza/Spamlist

Hey Redwolf24, I just saw Wikipedia:Esperanza/Spamlist, and didn't know if you were aware of NotificationBot, a great bot designed by AllyUnion. While it does have some glitches (it left triplicate copies last time), I've used it succesfully quite a few times for Wikipedia Mind Benders, which has a contact list of 50+ (I did notification once manually, took me forever...). Anyways, I just wanted to let you know about it, so you can consider using it for Esperanza. Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | W _S 20:16, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

MC

Did someone change their vote? I can't seem to find the two oppositions you talked about. - Mgm| ^(talk) 21:48, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

• My bad. I totally didn't see you were talking about Flcelloguy as well. I'll give it a look. - Mgm| ^(talk) 21:58, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

The Welcome Wagon

Redwolf, I was just leaving a message on another user's talk page, and you had put the welcome message there. It seems like you have on just about every other user talk page I see. Way to spread the wikilove! :) -- DavidConrad 21:50, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia would like to remind users to practice safe wikilove by always using a wikicondom! Agriculture 21:54, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

Mr. Treason latex condoms. R e dwolf24 ( talk) 21:55, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

Mr. Treason? Agriculture 21:58, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

WP:BU#Mr. Treason. R e dwolf24 ( talk) 21:59, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

I don't get it... Agriculture 22:04, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

I don't know... Mr. Treason condoms tend to "break" on you...... *ducks* Ryan Norton ^{T | @ | C} 22:05, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

Trojan latex condoms->Mr. Treason latex condoms. When you think of trojan you think of the horse, which was a rather sneaky and cunning thing to do, and it seems a weird name for a condom... and explaining jokes makes them suck ; - ) so nevermind R e dwolf24 ( talk) 22:08, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

Expalining them that way makes them funnier... :) Agriculture 22:16, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

The user was EXMaster, whom I was thanking for expanding Herzog_(game), which I was delisting from Requests for expansion. -- DavidConrad 22:26, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

Congrats!

Congratulations, I've officially listed you as a member of the mediation committee. I'll need to take a further look at Flcelloguy's nomination to make sure I fully understand the opposition and the surrounding comments. - Mgm| ^(talk) 22:11, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks! :D R e dwolf24 ( talk) 22:12, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

w00t! Congrats Wolfie, go Esperanza! Agriculture 22:18, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

Congrats & Thanx

Congrats on becoming a mediator, and a special thanks for your vote on my RFA. Greatly apperciated, I owe you one! PS: Hurry up with that damn pizza and beer!

Journalist ^C./ ^{Holla @ me!}

Congrats

Congrats, Redwolf24! Hopefully I'll be joining you soon... :-) Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | W _S 23:58, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, MacGyverMagic said he would look over the reasons you got those oppose votes. I got mine as I was unanimous. R e dwolf24 ( talk) 00:00, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

So you did fall for the "evil jpg"? Well, now that you've edited my user page, do you want to trade user pages as part of the Esperanza program? Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | W _S 00:15, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

P.S. You might want to try giving yourself a message... ;-)

No I didn't fall for it as I use full screen. And nah, I in particular won't do the trading spaces as my page is quite sexy. R e dwolf24 ( talk) 00:16, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Well, you can hire me as a secretary for only 45 Wiki-Bank currencies per message! Quality secretarial work will respond to all your messages while you sit back and relax... Seriously, though, you might try archiving less often; I usually archive around 75-100 messages. However, it is quite fun naming those archives! Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | W _S 00:18, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Well have a look at User:Redwolf24/FullArchive. R e dwolf24 ( talk) 00:21, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

590 messages?! Geez... well, still, if you did 100 messages per archive you would only have 6 archives right now. ;-) Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | W _S 00:23, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fake color articles

VfU it is, then. Cheers! --  BD2412 ^talk 02:25, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Yup, nice to see you BDA :) R e dwolf24 ( talk) 02:27, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

I've now listed them separately. Sorry if I seem overly critical of your closing, but I do think that under the circumstances, at least the "keep some" votes should have been treated as "keep all". The articles could have then been relisted on AfD individually, without going to VfU first. Believe me, I know how it is closing complicated AfD's. --  BD2412 ^talk 03:02, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Check something for me

Hey, if you get a chance, can you look at this entry on ANI. User:IMNOTEMICO keeps posting sock puppet banners on User:Ironbrew's userpage. I spoke with Ironbrew, and read the "evidence" suggested, but don't put much faith in it. I was posted by an anon, and I believe IMNOTEMICO is User:Emico, who evidently has a ban or watch against them. If nothing else, I dont believe a user of 2 days, should be posting sock puppet banners. Thanks. ∞ Who ?¿? 02:41, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

IMNOTEMICO indefinitely blocked. R e dwolf24 ( talk) 02:47, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

thanks, got tired of seeing them edit the page, and I did my one rv for the day :) ∞ Who ?¿? 02:48, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Your RfA is looking well in other news :D R e dwolf24 ( talk) 02:49, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

File:Nodog.jpg

Hehe.. speaking of dogs, I have to walk mine. ∞ Who ?¿? 03:01, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Ok, I have to admit, its going fairly well. I try not to seem to interested in it. However, I very much appreciate the work that you and Essjay have done, and can't really find words to show my gratitude. ∞ Who ?¿? 03:47, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

No problem. I have failed noms for you and Acetic Acid, which I will make up by having noms that pass with FLYING COLORS :D R e dwolf24 ( talk) 03:48, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Jobe6's nom

Your right, looking at it now I should have never nominated him. I didn't even know that he was nominated 2 weeks ago. And I look at these things even though ive only edited for a day now. However i was thinking about nominating Harro5 or LGagnon although im not sure. Type O Spud 04:23, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

No worries, really. -- R e dwolf24 ( talk) 04:24, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Taikonaut

IF they were Russians, wouldn't we call them cosmonauts? User:Zoe| ^(talk) 05:17, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Aye, probably. But Taikonaut is almost neologism. and I believe Evil_Monkey said that the word taikonaut was created in 1998 by a Malaysian, so it seems weird. Its not something I'm passionate enough about to war over though. -- R e dwolf24 ( talk) 05:23, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Hmm, never heard it either, but space.com has an article on them. If interested. ∞ Who ?¿? 05:26, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Nah, I'm not that interested in warring over it, either. :) User:Zoe| ^(talk) 19:16, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Chair

I only got the position, because Mediation reforms were heavily discussed at the time. As long as you know what to do, I don't see a problem with you taking the chair position. (Perhaps it should be a shared thing, so the chair doesn't get overworked).

The chair position pretty much entails keeping RFM clean, assigning cases you can't handle yourself and making sure the committee is effective. If you think you can handle it, I'd be happy to appoint you as chair in my absence. If any of the other mediatiors oppose, I think you should try offering a shared position so one of them can have the position while the load gets lightened. - Mgm| ^(talk) 07:00, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Fair use images

Please review the images you are using on your user page. It appears that many of these are on Wikipedia under the fair use clause of US copyright law. However, fair use will generally only apply in circumstances where the subject matter is being discussed and commented on. In most circumstances, it is unlikely that this applies to images on user pages. As such, most instances of fair use images on user pages should be removed. Dragons flight 09:49, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

I was kinda wondering about that awhile back. I read some of the terms of the fairuse tags and some of them are explicit in use. I didn't think of userpage use though, just usage on certain articles. ∞ Who ?¿? 09:56, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Esperanza/Calendar

I've created this in the hope of the Birthday Greetings project getting off the ground, hope you approve and include it in your next round of spam. PS Oh and congrats on getting admin, have a beer on me. Alf ^melmac 12:50, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

haha, I'll check it after I close the polls... R e dwolf24 ( talk) 22:15, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

It's basic, but it'll work, needs Founder's Day for sure. Going to go in for a bit of Trading Spaces yourself? :) Alf ^melmac 01:24, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

WikiBeer

File:Juicer.JPG

Well done on becoming a mediator. Like it asked, I am here to impart upon you a WikiBeer. However, they ran out so an orange juice will have to do...

But, then I thought to myself, what fun would that be? So I'll just give you an orange tree...

But, you'll also need a juicer... -- Celestianpower ^hab 13:15, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

But I am getting you a beer, congrats on becoming a mediator. Gryffindor 19:53, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

A whole tree yippee! But I'll use Gryffindor's gift first as I'm too lazy to squeeze the juice. R e dwolf24 ( talk) 22:15, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Can I borrow your idea of a WP:ESP link on the "e" in my username for my signature? -- Celestianpower ^hablamé 22:31, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Of course. R e dwolf24 ( talk) 22:32, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Espepanza

Hey Redwolf24, any chance of closing the polls/votes on Esperanza soon and getting some action done? It seems like most everybody who wanted to voted has voted; there's been barely any new votes the past day or two. Thanks! Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | W _S 13:36, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Probably by the end of the day? R e dwolf24 ( talk) 22:15, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

images - guilt by association

Why are you supporting User:Zscout370 in his arrogant deletion (without consultation with the uploader) of perfecting valid uploaded images, identified as such even if if not formally tagged? jimfbleak

Sir, he just awarded me with an award, please do not drag him in the issues you have with me, please. Zach (Sound Off) 21:21, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Zach, this sort of comment could be seen as abusive, "Don't try to drag him in, he likes me"? How is that relevant. If someone asks for an outside opinion, it should be provided, as Wolfie did. You're making a dirty appeal to authority Zach. Agriculture 22:31, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

He was enforcing the will of the Jimbo. Jimbo said to just delete without counsultation. So your problem isn't with me, or with Zscout370, its with Jimbo. Go veto him if you see fit? R e dwolf24 ( talk) 22:15, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks...

...for the spaceman! Working on WP:CP is even more of a King Canute than AfD/Old but I think we're down to something in the region of....oh...650 articles or so....- Splash ^talk 15:20, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Haha R e dwolf24 ( talk) 22:15, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Your album table

If you still create articles, do you mind if I update it to fit the standard Infobox? Job E 6 19:54, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Yes please. R e dwolf24 ( talk) 22:15, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

criticism section on my user page

What do you think :)? I got the idea from User:R. fiend. Ryan Norton ^{T | @ | C} 21:36, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Ha! Were I to make a section like that itd flood my page. R e dwolf24 ( talk) 22:15, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Unacceptable deleting tactics

Just for your information. User:Ted Wilkes has repeatedly deleted paragraphs from talk and article pages. See [1], [2], [3], [4]. He even falsely claimed to have moved content from the Talk:Elvis Presley/Homosexuality page to the Talk:Elvis Presley/Sexuality page, but the content has been totally deleted. See [5].

There are similar deleting tactics by User:Wyss. See [6], [7], [8], [9], [10], [11], [12].

Those are from a while ago, please only bring current stuff to my attention. R e dwolf24 ( talk) 22:15, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

You deleted the Talk:Elvis Presley/Homosexuality page on 25 September. See [13]

Ah. I deleted it as it redirected to NOTHING. The /Sexuality page must have been deleted by another admin, find him instead. R e dwolf24 ( talk) 23:35, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

I don't think that an administrator deleted the /Sexuality page. As far as I can see, User:Ted Wilkes only claimed to have moved content from the Talk:Elvis Presley/Homosexuality page to a Talk:Elvis Presley/Sexuality page, but the latter page wasn't created at all. Thus the content has been totally deleted by Ted Wilkes. See [14]. Perhaps you are able to reinstate the original text. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.141.255.121 ( talk • contribs) 17:44, 26 September 2005

Rktect, and mediation

I have a request. From [15] it can be seen that your recommendation of staying away from Squaring the circle comment was left on Wikipedia's time 19:50, 24 September 2005 (your signature implies that your local time differs 5 hours from wiki time).

However, Rktect has already broken the mediation process by readding his content on Squaring the circle at 22:33, 24 September 2005 diff: [16].

Therefore, It is only fair that the entry be restored to the previous state so I can agree that we both stay away from such entry. -- ( ☺drini♫| ☎) 02:00, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Reverted and warned. R e dwolf24 ( talk) 02:10, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

HEY!

I think you owe somebody an apology: User_talk:Pureblade. Esperanza is about being nice, remember? -- Essjay · Talk 02:46, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Oi, my tone wasn't meant to sound like that. Check his talk. R e dwolf24 ( talk) 02:51, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

A thought...

I have been, as you know, following the Wiki Brah "saga" with interest since I was the one that brought up the R.F.C. against him, which started the chain of events that led to him getting banned, then un-banned, then you got involved and re-banned him. I was just wondering why Lucky 6.9 said he couldn't unilaterally block someone, but you can? I thought that was an ArbCom decision. Please forgive me if I don't know what I'm talking about though -- I'm pretty new to most of this! TheDeletator 03:27, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

I can unilatterly block him as long as no other admin unblocks him. Thus, making it not entirely unilatteral. If someone unblocks him, he's unblocked. He'll be back, and if he continues being an idiot, I'll block him for two months, and if he keeps going then, then he can say goodbye. R e dwolf24 ( talk) 03:36, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Ok understood. And what about that "RainBow" guy? Did you unilaterally block him? I thought you can't ban someone for anything but vandalism and 3 rr type stuff. TheDeletator 03:51, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Nope, look at WP:BLOCK. Also we can use common sense. He was pretty much trolling, i.e. intentionally trying to annoy people etc. R e dwolf24 ( talk) 03:57, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Okay thank you, gotcha. TheDeletator 04:21, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Just a note

Had to waste my 3700th edit on somebody. Isn't that a nice number? And giving away milestone edits seems like an Esperanzian (zist?) thing to do. Have a good day! Cheers, Bratsche ^{talk | Esperanza} 04:21, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Chart available

I've done the chart for you. You can view it at Image:Redwolf24-edits.png. I won't be placing it on my contributions subpage so please feel free to delete it whenever you're done with it or keep it if you want.

Some comments:

• You use edit summaries just 39% of the time. Over the last 500 edits, just 30% of the time. Please use edit summaries, ok? :-)
• I did a chart for User:Flcelloguy yesterday. He had an average of 32 edits per day. That was the highest I'd seen yet. I was floored when I saw yours...almost 52?? Wow!
• Please have a look at User:Durin/Admin_nominee_charts#.22Will_you_do_a_chart_for_me.3F.22. This is the second time in the last few days that a non-admin nominee with less than 2,000 edits has requested a chart from me. I don't mind doing them for those admin nominees with less than 2,000 edits because I feel it helps focus the discussion on those nominees. Since you're just the second person not in that group of people to ask, I went ahead and did the chart. However, I really don't want to get in the habit of making a chart for anyone who requests one. It takes too much time; time I could be spending on other wiki stuff. I'm not upset at your asking! :-) I just don't want word to spread around such that I suddenly get hammered with a million requests for charts, ok? :-)

All the best, -- Durin 13:44, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

• The problem with not using edit summaries for user talk pages is that an RC patroller has to learn what your particular editing peculiarities are to know that the lack of an edit summary for a user talk page is normal behavior for you. This might be fine if it was only you that had this editing behavior. However, there are others that I have seen who do this as well. Thus, there's significant scaling issues with this behavior; how many editors will RC patrollers have to know the editing behaviors of? I used to not use edit summaries for my own user, talk, and subpages. I figured it should be obvious I'm not vandalizing my own page. Now, I use edit summaries 100% of the time (unless I just click "Save page" by accident before entering edit summary). Please consider doing the same? Thanks, -- Durin 14:27, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

re your message

Your action leaves the page as reverted by drini with substantive content removed. As there is no good reason for the content to be removed I would prefer it that you leave the content, I will make no further changes till the matter is resolved. Rktect 14:48, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

I don't think that is a sign of uncooperation since he didn't readd his content, he's just stating his preference. My only point is that he modified the entry at (22:33, 24 September 2005) AFTER you requested us not to touch it at (19:50, 24 September 2005). I never touched the entry from that moment on so it was only fair to ask the same. However, if you feel you prefer to drop the mediation, that'd be fine with me. -- ( ☺drini♫| ☎) 01:16, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

Hmm, I think the RfM should be dropped, especially as he looks like he's not gonna pass the RfAr :-/ R e dwolf24 ( talk) 01:20, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

WP:ESP

Not rushing you or anything, but any chance of getting the votes sorted out at WP:ESP and doing some action? Thanks! After all, votes and polls don't make the community happier. :-) Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | W _S 22:29, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

OHNOES! There's a tie on the assembly. What are we to do? Best to wait. R e dwolf24 ( talk) 22:33, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

You spelled it wrong, it's oHnOeS! tEh gRaMMir pOlLeCCe( oHnOeS!) 22:36, 26 September 2005 (UTC)