Tha map actually displayed shows Kiev, Ukraine! It needs some kind of techno-fix.
Ttocserp (
talk) 12:35, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
Now it shows Ponders End! Yet the coordinates are correct. Must be some bug.
Ttocserp (
talk) 01:23, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
seeing that Ponders end is due north, I tried changing the co-ordinate abit, but to no effect, so yes, . . . a bug!
Leutha (
talk) 12:19, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
Something strange is going on here. Three editors have tried to fix this but it's worse then ever. Not only is the map wrong (and it used to show Kiev, Ukraine!) but so are the coordinates. They now denote a place in Bromley, Kent (even more remote than Ponders End).
Ttocserp (
talk) 12:39, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
I don't get it. I used the coordinates that Google maps provides. Strange--
Fuhghettaboutit (
talk) 14:35, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
I've determined that the fault has nothing to do with the coord template. Even if you blank it out altogether – and get no coordinates at all – you still get the same spurious map. I suspect there's some kind of concealed vandalism going on. How, I have no idea.
Ttocserp (
talk) 14:48, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
Yeah, like maybe someone went into the underlying code the templates use and put in something that offsets whatever you input by some degrees or similar.--
Fuhghettaboutit (
talk)
I think it can't be a hidden offset, because the spurious map continues to display even after I've deleted the coordinates line altogether and saved. How can a map be displayed when there's no command to do so? (BTW, this goes back to the time there was a dispute about Hilton trying to rename the article.)
Ttocserp (
talk) 15:07, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
The page was weird as there was no geotag anywhere- not in the infobox or external links. But there was the map of Ponders end. The text on the page could not be pushing the false coords, and external program must be pulling them and serving them. Could it be that a little bit of Lua in the infobox - saw no coords, recognised there was a wikidata link so pulled them from an attribute there, and served them back to the page?
I had a look at the wikidata item- there was the map of Ponders End (Was this what Donald Tusk was refering to?). I concluded that the template was pulling the geotag from there. So I captured the fix- and left an entry in the infobox, then headed to wikidata through link on edit page. I went for the coords section and it was now displaying mt new map! Back to the page and now a full page link to correct map.
So is a bug or is it a feature? I would now investigate whether the Lua can pull geodata from the infobox but misses it if the geodata is in a separate coords tag in external links. If the Lua is editted- there is a fair chance that the geodata will go wandering again- watch this space.
ClemRutter (
talk) 17:21, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
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