English DIY punk/post-riot grrrl group
The Ethical Debating Society (aka T.E.D.S.
[1] ) are a three-piece
DIY
punk , post-
riot grrrl
[2] group from
London .
[3]
[4] They have been described as "one of the most exciting DIY bands" in the UK.
[5]
History
Initially a solo project for vocalist/guitarist Tegan Christmas, The Ethical Debating Society formed as a band in 2009 with Lauren Darling (guitar) and Chris Morris (drums).
[6] They received an early name-check in
The Guardian from
Everett True .
[7] Recordings made with producer
Ant Chapman were initially unreleased, although two tracks were included on a later EP.
[8] By 2010 Darling and Morris had left and Tegan continued with a varying line up
[9]
[10] until the group settled as Tegan with Eli Tupa
[11] and Kris Martin
[12] in 2013.
[13]
The band played a number of early gigs around the
UK
queercore scene, with
Ste McCabe ,
The Younger Lovers and others;
[14]
[15] following an appearance on
Brighton queercore label
Tuff Enuff Records ’s 2012 compilation Why Diet When You Could Riot?
[16] gigs with
Shrag and
Tunabunny led to a split
single with London’s
Skinny Girl Diet on
US label
Happy Happy Birthday To Me Records in 2013.
[17]
[18]
[19] A cassette/download
EP on Tuff Enuff - "Hens Teeth" - followed in 2014.
[20]
In 2015, The Ethical Debating Society's debut album New Sense was released on
Odd Box Records following audio and video previews,
[21]
[22] and received positive reviews from SoundsXP,
[23] Collapse Board,
[24] Louder Than War
[25] and others,
[26]
[27]
[28]
[29]
[30] with radio support including
BBC Radio 6 ,
[31]
Dandelion and
Artrocker Radio. The album was produced by
Mark Jasper at Sound Savers studio. Album track "Razor Party" (written by former drummer Rob) was voted #32 in the 2015
John Peel memorial '
Festive 50 ' compiled by
Dandelion Radio .
[32]
The band supported
Jack Off Jill at their final show, at
Heaven in London,
[33] and played with
Shonen Knife on the London date of that band's 2016 tour.
[34] They played at
Indietracks 2015, and have also played with
The Wolfhounds ,
The Nightingales ,
The Homosexuals ,
Hagar the Womb ,
Prolapse ,
Bis ,
Lung Leg and
Darren Hayman .
In 2013, T.E.D.S. were named as a 'band to watch' by
Londonist .
[35] In 2017, they were included in
Clash magazine 's list of "favourite new groups"
[36] alongside
Shopping and others. In 2019
Contactmusic called them "one of the best" London DIY bands.
[37]
Discography
Albums
EPs/Singles
Live EP, self-released, CDr (2011)
Split EP,
HHBTM Records , 7-inch (2013) [with Skinny Girl Diet]
[17]
Hens Teeth EP,
Tuff Enuff Records , MC/DL (2014)
"London Particular", self-released, DD (2017)
Mutual Indecision EP, Radical Possibilities, MC/DL (2023)
Compilation appearances
"Kill You Last" on Why Diet When You Can Diet ,
Tuff Enuff Records , LP/DD (2012)
"Kill You Last" on MC12 ,
HHBTM Records , MC (2012)
"Future Imperfect" on Keroleen Mixtape #1 , Keroleen Records, MC/DD (2015)
[38]
"Cover Up" on Indietracks Compilation 2015 ,
Indietracks , DD (2015)
"Riderrr" on Odd Box Weekender V ,
Odd Box , DD (2015)
"
Run Rudolph Run " on Riot Grrrl Christmas ,
Cleopatra Records , CD/DD (2015)
[39]
"List of Requirements" on Odd Box 2015 ,
Odd Box , DD (2015)
[40]
"Creosote Ideas" on Don't Be Left Without Us , 2CD (2016)
[41]
"Poor Liam" on Loud Women - Volume One ,
Loud Women Records , CD (2017)
"Paywall" on Kobayashi I: Intergalactic Champions , Kobayashi Nights Records, CD/DD (2017)
"Yes" on Salvage: A DIY Pop Compilation , Move Under Your Own Power, MC/DD (2018)
[42]
"Emoticon" on #SolidarityNotSilence Compilation (Pt1) (2019)
[43]
Line up
Current
Tegan Christmas (vocals, guitar)
Lu (drums)
Kris Martin (guitar, vocals)
Previous
Eli Tupa (drums, 2013-2019)
Rob Macabre (drums, 2010-2012)
Dave Burbidge (drums, 2013)
Su (percussion/bvs, 2010-2013)
Lauren Darling (guitar/vocals, 2009)
Chris Morris (drums, 2009)
References
^
"The Zine UK" . The Zine UK . Retrieved 25 October 2017 .
^ True, Everett (14 September 2009).
"The 10 myths of Riot Grrrl" .
The Guardian . Retrieved 10 May 2016 .
^
"The Ethical Debating Society - New Sense" . Norman Records UK. Retrieved 10 May 2016 .
^ Hope, Stephanie (16 March 2011).
"Winning the argument: the Ethical Debating Society" . Hackneycitizen.co.uk . Retrieved 10 May 2016 .
^ Ebulue, Gabriel (2016).
"INTERVIEW: The Ethical Debating Society" . Gigslutz. Retrieved 10 May 2016 .
^
"The Ethical Debating Society" . Musicosity. Retrieved 10 May 2016 .
^ True, Everett (14 September 2009).
"The 10 myths of Riot Grrrl" . Theguardian.com . Retrieved 25 October 2017 .
^
"The Ethical Debating Society - Hens Teeth" . Discogs.com . 29 September 2014.
^ Lane, Terry (9 March 2012).
"The Ethical Debating Society - Punk Rock Riot Grrrl!" . Buzzin Music. Retrieved 10 May 2016 .
^
"Winning the argument: the Ethical Debating Society - Hackney Citizen" . Hackneycitizen.co.uk . 16 March 2011. Retrieved 25 October 2017 .
^
"Riot Grrrl Christmas - Various Artists - Credits - AllMusic" .
AllMusic . Retrieved 25 October 2017 .
^
"The Ethical Debating Society" . Discogs.com . Retrieved 10 May 2016 .
^ Noon, Mike (29 May 2015).
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^
"August - 2011 - Storm in a Teacup London" . Joinourteaparty.org . Retrieved 25 October 2017 .
^ Graham, Melissa Steiner, Katie.
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"Album reviews: Various - Why Diet When You Could Riot? (Tuff Enuff)" . COLLAPSE BOARD. 23 September 2012. Retrieved 10 May 2016 .
^
a
b Phillips, Stephanie (7 June 2013).
"Review: Skinny Girl Diet/The Ethical Debating Society" . Thegirlsare.com . Retrieved 10 May 2016 .
^ Neph, Joseph (5 June 2013).
"Graded on a Curve: Skinny Girl Diet, Ethical Debating Society, split 7-inch EP" . The Vinyl District. Retrieved 10 May 2016 .
^ Foster, Chuck (12 July 2013).
"Skinny Girl Diet/Ethical Debating Society - split 7″ (HHBTM)" . The Big Takeover. Retrieved 10 May 2016 .
^ Ruth, Ngaire (18 October 2014).
"Read All About It: The Ethical Debating Society" . the girls are. Retrieved 10 May 2016 .
^ Coughlan, Jamie (20 May 2015).
"The Ethical Debating Society - Cover Up (Oberblown Track Premiere)" . Retrieved 10 May 2016 .
^
"Already Heard Video Premiere: The Ethical Debating Society - Sum Of My Parts" . Already Heard. Retrieved 10 May 2016 .
^ W, Kev (5 July 2015).
"The Ethical Debating Society New Sense Album Review" . SoundsXP. Retrieved 10 May 2016 .
^ True, Everett (6 April 2015).
"The return of Everett True : 141. The Ethical Debating Society" . COLLAPSE BOARD. Retrieved 10 May 2016 .
^ Ruth, Ngaire (15 February 2015).
"The Ethical Debating Society 'New Sense' album review" . Louder Than War. Retrieved 10 May 2016 .
^
"The Ethical Debating Society – New Sense LP" . Stereo Sancity. 17 September 2015. Retrieved 10 May 2016 .
^ Jacobs, Caspar (16 July 2015).
"The Ethical Debating Society – New Sense" . Beautiful Freaks. Retrieved 10 May 2016 .
^
"The Ethical Debating Society: New Sense" . Collective Zine. 29 July 2015. Retrieved 11 May 2016 .
^
"NEW! LP HIGHLIGHT: The Ethical Debating Society - New Sense" . Interstellar Radio Shower. Retrieved 11 May 2016 .
^
"RECORD REVIEWS SEPTEMBER-DECEMBER 2015" . Fearandloathingfanzine.com . Retrieved 25 October 2017 .
^
"The Ethical Debating Society" . BBC Music. Archived from
the original on 31 December 2017. Retrieved 10 May 2016 .
^
"2015 Festive Fifty results" . Dandelion Radio. Retrieved 11 May 2016 .
^
"Jack off Jill, or One Night to Relive My Youth" . Jennymugridge.com . 7 January 2016. Retrieved 25 October 2017 .
^
"Damnably Presents: Shonen Knife + Leggy - Dingwalls Live Music Venue" . Dingwalls.com . Retrieved 25 October 2017 .
^
"Air Guitars At The Ready Part Two: Three More London Bands To Watch" . Londonist.com . 24 May 2013. Retrieved 13 March 2023 .
^
"Revolution Grrrl Style Now" . Clashmusic.com . 3 January 2017. Retrieved 25 October 2017 .
^
"Sleater-Kinney and more Riot Grrrl revivalists we can't get enough of" . Contactmusic.com . 20 June 2019. Retrieved 13 March 2023 .
^
"Keroleen Mixtape #1, by Various" . Keroleen Records . Retrieved 25 October 2017 .
^
"Riot Grrrl Christmas - Various Artists - Songs, Reviews, Credits - AllMusic" .
AllMusic . Retrieved 25 October 2017 .
^
"Odd Box 2015" . Odd Box Records. Retrieved 11 May 2016 .
^
"Don't Be Left Without These Star Sounds" . Morning Star. 25 April 2016. Archived from
the original on 1 June 2016. Retrieved 29 April 2016 .
^
"[ALBUM PREMIERE] Move Under Your Own Power – Salvage: A DIY Pop Compilation" . Fortherabbits.net . 15 October 2018.
^
"#SolidarityNotSilence Compilation (Pt1), by Hell Hath No Fury Records" . Hellhathnofuryrecords.bandcamp.com .
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