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Rename "War on Terror"?
I just moved
War on Terrorism to
War on Terror, per a move request, and the fact that the latter name appears to be more widely used, by supporters and opponents, and by our sources. Should this template move as well, to match the article? -
GTBacchus(
talk) 02:18, 25 September 2007 (UTC)reply
Yea, all related articles should be moved to match the main one. ~Rangeley (
talk) 02:19, 25 September 2007 (UTC)reply
There is no war on Terrorism or War on Terror – you can't fight terror with war. "War on Terror" is a bad name, as bad as "War on Terrorism" is. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
188.193.155.31 (
talk) 11:23, 22 July 2012 (UTC)reply
Islamic terrorism
Any resaon why the inclusion of the article
Islamic terrorism was reverted? It is, after all, one of the leading causes of the war on terrorism. YahelGuhan 05:40, 5 February 2008 (UTC)reply
Mexico and Colombia have supported this war, why don't you add them to the list? —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
190.28.191.59 (
talk) 20:13, 24 December 2008 (UTC)reply
There will never be consensus on this template
I see that a revert war is under way. This is inevitable given the topic. As the old adage goes, one man's terrorist is another man's
freedom fighter. Since there will never be an universally-agreed
definition of terrorism, I believe that this template should be titled the U.S. War on Terror [or Terrorism]. The template only really focuses on the U.S. fight against Islamist terrorism. There are other kinds. The
2001 anthrax attacks are not included, and Russia is not listed as a participant even though the 2004
Beslan school hostage crisis is. The "See Also" section only contains U.S.-focused terms and legal issues. The template does not include Spain's war on
ETA, India's conflicts with the
myriad of insurgent groups operating within its borders, Thailand's
struggle with insurgents in its southern provinces, the conflict between
Sri Lanka and the
LTTE, Colombia's war with the
FARC, etc. Furthermore, trying to categorize the War on Terrorism as a conventional war like World War II simply will not work.--
RDavi404 (
talk) 23:42, 13 February 2009 (UTC)reply
Firstly, there is no "revert war". Then, if we are only going to make this global phenomenon relevant only to the USA, then the template will need to be removed from most of
these articles, as the USA has no relevance to them.
Flarkins (
talk) 21:14, 14 February 2009 (UTC)reply
I see you made a move without any consensus whatsoever, in fact the opposite. This does not bode well.
Lapsed Pacifist (
talk) 14:24, 16 February 2009 (UTC)reply
No, I moved it back to the name accepted since October 27, 2007, after you moved it without proper consensus.
Flarkins (
talk) 14:28, 16 February 2009 (UTC)reply
What do you base that on? Where did you hear there is a time limit on move discussions? How many users supported your move? I thought it extraordinarily presumptuous of you to move without discussion.
Lapsed Pacifist (
talk) 19:23, 16 February 2009 (UTC)reply
I have to agree. No one voiced any disapproval of the move on this discussion page in that two year time frame. I also have never read anywhere that consensus has to be reached within a certain time frame. I think the fact that there are at least three discussions started about renaming the template should be evidence enough that a change needs to be made. Are we headed for
arbitration?--
RDavi404 (
talk) 21:49, 16 February 2009 (UTC)reply
I'm unable to read Portuguese, Italian, French or Hebrew well enough to figure out if those sources support your argument. If you read the Yemen op-ed, you'll see that it is mocking the use of the term "war on terror" and questions whether it is actually a "war on Islam." Israel has had a "war on terror" for decades before 9/11 so if we're going to include them on the template then we should expand it to before 2001.
RDavi404 (
talk) 18:20, 17 February 2009 (UTC)reply
"Israel has had a "war on terror" for decades before 9/11 so if we're going to include them on the template then we should expand it to before 2001" Well yes, the war didn't start at 9/11, even the main article doesn't say this.
Flarkins (
talk) 18:23, 17 February 2009 (UTC)reply
The timeline on the template begins in 2001. Should we expand? And if so, how far back?
RDavi404 (
talk) 23:18, 17 February 2009 (UTC)reply
"This all discredits the opinion that the term is only used in the US, or it is only the US fighting in the war." I never said this. It's a US-instigated and -led war, that's why it was moved to show this. Flarkins, I'm not seeing much backing for your controversial page move.
Lapsed Pacifist (
talk) 19:09, 4 March 2009 (UTC)reply
Obama Administration dropping "War on Terror" phrase
Fox News
[1] and NPR
[2] report that the Obama Administration is choosing to drop the terms "Global War on Terror" from its lexicon. It prefers "Overseas Contingency Operation." How should this affect the template? Should the timeline only exist from 9/11/2001 through the end of the Bush Adminstration? --
RDavi404 (
talk) 16:18, 1 April 2009 (UTC)reply
Use "Navbox with collapsible groups"
For the sake of smaller screens, use the "Navbox with collapsible groups" template with the "Participants", "Conflicts", "Islamist attacks" and "See also" sections as the groups.
I included divs to make each group's list of links easier to distinguish from its neighbors and combined the "above" and "below" lines.
212.84.104.90 (
talk) 00:14, 10 December 2009 (UTC)reply
Terrorist attacks
I've removed terrorist attacks from the template as they are not part of WoT and no reliable sources include them in WoT. Therefore , it is
WP:SYNTH. I've placed the removed section below, if someone is interested in making a new template. --
JokerXtreme (
talk) 15:57, 2 March 2010 (UTC)reply
I agree, but are all attacks listed made by islamists? In the meantime I have to figure out what I've broke with the moving. --
JokerXtreme (
talk) 16:12, 2 March 2010 (UTC)reply
Mujahidden
I'd like to remove
Mujahideen from the list of targets. Please have a look at
Mujahideen article. I see no reason why to include this article in this navbox.
Americophile 09:19, 9 April 2012 (UTC)reply
Why this infobox don't include
First Chechen War,
Second Chechen War,
War of Dagestan or even
Insurgency in the North Caucasus??? Russia's wars are worse, than those conducted by the "West"? Mujahideens in Russia are less terrorists than those in Iraq, Syria ,etc.
Although the article appears to be written completely correctly, infobox makes it completely biased! Greetings from Poland --
87.105.136.58 (
talk) 03:35, 30 January 2013 (UTC)reply