Permanently protected {{WikiProject Redirect ombox|text= Note: Any changes made to this template's content needs to be checked as workable in the tables on the references which include it directly:
Wikipedia:Template messages/Redirect pages]] Wikipedia:Redirect
to subtopic My gut feeling is that there is little substantive difference between Template:R from subtopic and Template:R to section. What is unfortunate is the merger of concepts underlying Template:R from subtopic and Template:R with possibilities]] as it is a truism that almost all tolerated titles and named concepts have the possibility of becoming an article though there might be a very small probability of this taking place User:Ceyockey. User talk:Ceyockey|talk to me. 02:07, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Update:
Template:Anchor preserves section anchors, even when the section heading changes. It also obviates the need to use HTML markup or code comments to preserve redirect link integrity.
Template:Redirectstohere was deleted in July 2008.
Template:R with possibilities is a qualitative assessment, not speculation. It implies that the topic should be developed further. Sometimes a disambiguation page is warranted. Obviously, not all redirects have development potential (e.g., name variations).
As for subtopics and sections, the answer is codified in the redirect category hierarchy:
Category:Redirects to related topics :Category:Redirects from subtopics
Category:Redirects to sections
What's the current consensus on whether redirects to sections are presumed to be subtopics? That is, does {{
r to section}}
make {{
r from subtopic}}
superfluous? For example, I made
this edit knowing full well someone would probably
disagree.
The discussion above doesn't seem entirely relevant now that {{
redirectstohere}}
no longer exists. --[[User:SoledadKabocha|SoledadKabocha User talk:02:42, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
Sounds like a job for a bot ==
Since you an always tell from syntax if a redirect is to a section or not, isn't the job of marking redirects as such best left to a WP:BOT? The bot could also categorize redirect to sections that are borken, i.e. the section got renamed w/o changing the redirect or including a div to keep the old section name valid, which honestly, I've not seen anyone use. Pcap ping 02:59, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
SELECT page_title
FROM page
JOIN redirect ON rd_from=page_id
LEFT JOIN categorylinks
ON rd_from=cl_from AND cl_to="Redirects_to_sections"
WHERE page_namespace=0
AND rd_fragment!=""
AND cl_from IS NULL;
Please review Talk:NetWare#Purpose: R to anchor for a discussion about the exact meaning of {{ R to section}} and a proposal to add {{ R to alternative section anchor}} to distinguish "free" anchors from alternative anchors nearby section headings in order to ease maintenance. -- Matthiaspaul ( talk) 21:44, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
@ Paine Ellsworth: I respectfully disagree with your recent revert. The phrase "click here" as link text may be in common use, but for both stylistic and user accessibility reasons it is not recommended by organizations such as W3C ( Don't use "click here" as link text), National Institute on Aging ( Making Your Website Senior Friendly), Microsoft ( Creating accessible Word documents (subsection: Use hyperlink text that is meaningful)), the American Foundation for the Blind ( How to Make Your Blog Accessible to Blind Readers), Penn State ( Accessibility and Usability at Penn State: Microsoft Word Tips), WebAIM ( Introduction to Web Accessibility), the Nielsen Norman Group ( Accessible Design for Users With Disabilities), UX Movement ( Why Your Links Should Never Say “Click Here”) and others (see also Mystery meat navigation). This link phrase is also now discouraged by Google's indexing algorithms as noted by Wordtracker ( 7 top tips to avoid a Google Penguin penalty in 2014) and Powered By Search ( 7 Types of Anchor Text You Can Use to Avoid a Google Flag). Using the phrase is unprofessional and lazy, especially when the sentence can be easily rewritten to use a more contextually accurate link text. Slambo (Speak) 20:10, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
If this most recent edit is okay, I shall start updating other rcat /doc pages later today. Joys! – Paine Ellsworth CLIMAX! 10:45, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
As the heading says, should this template really be used on every single page that redirects to a section of another? I'm questioning this because many of those aren't really from specific subjects or already have another redirect category that often already states that it can be used for redirects to sections, making this template reduntant in certain cases, such as with Template:R from incomplete disambiguation (see Category:Redirects from incomplete disambiguations for examples). The reason I disagree with this usage is because the description in R to section (and on its page) make it pretty clear that it is only for subjects that could have their own articles, but are only described in a related "parent" article due to a lack of notability/other reasons (examples being Barron Trump and Weavel); it is not to be put on redirects that are not from real subjects and don't lead to sections that describe, such H (album). Likewise, you don't put Template:R to disambiguation page on every redirect to a disambiguation page. I'd say this applies to redirects that are both tagged with R to section and Template:R to list entry as well, since that's reduntant. Any thoughts? Geolodus ( talk) 13:19, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
This
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Change:
This is a redirect from a topic that does not have its own page to a section of a page on the subject.
to:
This is a redirect from a topic that does not have its own page to a
Section of a page on the subject. For anchors not associated with section headers, use {{
R to anchor}} instead.
Reason:
to be clear that the word "section" here is not just a synonym for "part"
– see [[Category talk:Redirects to sections#Are {{R to section}} and {{R to anchor}} intended to be mutually exclusive?]]
Jim Craigie (
talk) 13:01, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
How to use a magic word to redirect to a section?. For example,
#redirect [[United Nations Climate Change conference|{{CURRENTYEAR}}]]
to go to the section of the current year in the UNCCC article?:
United Nations Climate Change conference#2022. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BoldLuis ( talk • contribs) 11:07, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
My name Mr Special:Contributions/119.30.39.229|119.30.39.229User talk:119.30.39.229|talk 13:35 6 November 2022 (UTC)
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