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I've incorporated the Amtrak logo into this template. If you have any issues, please feel free to send me a message. Thank you! Iliketimmyturner ( talk) 22:57, 16 October 2011 (UTC) reply

It miserably fails the non-free content criteria. Please stop adding non-free logos everywhere unless they meet these criteria, which exist for legal reasons and are hard and fast policy. oknazevad ( talk) 00:43, 17 October 2011 (UTC) reply

The template has this entry: * North Coast Hiawatha (planned) Is this appropriate? I am aware of a 2008-9 study that said it was feasable to re-instate the service. However, I'm not aware of any action since then, nor is anything mentioned in the Wikipedia article. For the record, sister studies with similar results were also done about resurrecting the Desert Wind and Pioneer (train) and these routes are still listed as former routes, not proposed. Please advise if I am missing something, or am I correct that this should be deleted. Dave ( talk) 18:47, 20 February 2016 (UTC) reply

Hello everyone! I noticed Cards84664's comment from a few months ago: "There are dozens more that should be added from the List of Amtrak routes article", so I've started adding some. Most of them don't have articles created for them yet, and some don't even have starting and ending dates of operation. Should those still be added? Pi.1415926535? Thanks! – Daybeers ( talk) 20:16, 19 April 2018 (UTC) reply

• I think list could be a pruned a bit; for example, I can't see the utility in listing the former individual names for Northeast Corridor services, or the Hiawathas (e.g. Encore). We already have an exhaustive list at List of Amtrak routes, the purpose of this template is to navigate between articles. Mackensen (talk) 21:38, 28 March 2019 (UTC) reply

That's probably true. There's a grey area that we'll have to figure out as to which renamed services are worth listing (NortheastDirect, for example, probably is). Perhaps we could have a single row atop the former routes section linking to tables for certain corridor services (NEC, Empire, Keystone, Hiawatha, Cascades) on the list page. The latter two corridors don't have separate tables, but I've been thinking about making them. Pi.1415926535 ( talk) 21:52, 28 March 2019 (UTC) reply

I'm open to a better way to present this information; it probably doesn't make a lot of sense unless you already know that Amtrak removed most individual names in the 1980s and 1990s. Mackensen (talk) 01:13, 19 May 2022 (UTC) reply

Honestly, it might be best to simply move former routes to a separate template. Even with the named corridor services grouped together, there's just so many former routes that it makes the template rather bulky. Pi.1415926535 ( talk) 01:29, 19 May 2022 (UTC) reply

That makes sense to me. Mackensen (talk) 01:38, 19 May 2022 (UTC) reply

Sounds good to me. It'd be nice to both streamline this template and to better organize the former routes in a separate template. A long alphabetical list isn't that helpful, which is why I added the "Long distance" subsection QuincyMorgan ( talk) 19:42, 19 May 2022 (UTC) reply

Agreed that the former routes make the template bulky. I also question the value of including them. As I see it the current routes are of interest to different people than former routes. Both are of interest to budding railfans, but someone interested in seeing the USA by train, but unfamiliar with what's available, would only be interested in the current routes. Frankly, including the former routes would be a distraction. I think a category is probably sufficient for them. Dave ( talk) 03:25, 20 May 2022 (UTC) reply

I started a new diagram over at Template:Former Amtrak routes. QuincyMorgan ( talk) 15:15, 20 May 2022 (UTC) reply

Finally updated former routes pages to use Template:Former Amtrak routes and removed them from this template. QuincyMorgan ( talk) 19:02, 11 October 2022 (UTC) reply