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|separator=,
, then commas rather than periods are used as separators. If you feel that a comma should always precede "eds.", then please demonstrate consensus and the template can be modified. You might also take quick glance at
WP:AGF.
Martin (
Smith609 –
Talk) 13:16, 13 October 2010 (UTC)Would someone care to explain why Authormask is throwing U+2003: EM SPACE? and displaying hyphens instead of displaying —? Fifelfoo ( talk) 02:44, 13 October 2010 (UTC) #iferror: {{ #expr: 1*{{{AuthorMask}}} }} |{{{AuthorMask}}} |<del>{{loop|{{{AuthorMask}}}|2= }}</del>
{{
cite book}}
: Unknown parameter |authormask=
ignored (|author-mask=
suggested) (
help)|AuthorMask=
isn't documented here (that needs to be fixed), so I took a look at the markup. The field uses multiple   wrapped in <del>...</del>
. Copy and paste is going to output spaces for the deleted section. FireFox 3.6/Win7 shows what appears as mdashes, as does Safari 5.0.2, IE9 Beta and Opera. My best guess it that the Mac is showing this as ndashes. This example uses the same output: I hope this is the place to get the attention of the right people (this has previously appeared here). Consider the following cite book and cite conference references that were recently added to the Polylogarithm article:
{{
cite book}}
: |format=
requires |url=
(
help); Invalid |ref=harv
(
help) (this 1826 manuscript was only published posthumously.){{
cite conference}}
: Invalid |ref=harv
(
help); Unknown parameter |booktitle=
ignored (|book-title=
suggested) (
help) (also appeared as "The remarkable dilogarithm" in Journal of Mathematical and Physical Sciences 22 (1988), pp. 131–145, and as Chapter I of (
Zagier 2007).){{
cite book}}
: |format=
requires |url=
(
help); Invalid |ref=harv
(
help)Is there a way to make the "(in French)" and "(PDF)" parts in the 1st and 3rd references appear immediately after the contribution title, and not after the editor names? Is there a way to make the "in" appear in the 2nd case too where editor names are unknown? Thanks, 217.184.57.147 ( talk) 06:23, 25 September 2010 (UTC).
Wotcher, yet another issue from FAC reviewing:
{{
cite book}}
: |volume=
has extra text (
help)Could other editors comment on this change of style proposal which would affect the rendering of the following templates: cite book. May need to effect: cite comic ; cite manual ; cite report ; cite encyclopedia. Fifelfoo ( talk) 04:40, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
Currently, if {{ Cite news}} is given an agency, a newspaper, and a location, it will list them in the following order:
However, it would make more sense to list the location immediately following the newspaper -- the location refers to the where the newspaper is published, not where the agency is located. Where the agency goes in this case is less of a priority to me, as long as it is put somewhere logical. But the other two items should be displayed in this way:
Thanks to anyone who can make this possible. (I raised this issue at
Template talk:Cite news and was told that this was dependent on {{
citation/core}}
, so that is why I am bringing it up here now.) --
Metropolitan90
(talk) 22:09, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
|location=
with |publication-place=
. For news sources, the location should normally be the
dateline's stated location, i.e. the place the story was filed by the author, not the place at which the work was printed or broadcast. This is particularly so for agency stories and wire services.
LeadSongDog
come howl! 19:40, 19 October 2010 (UTC)It appears that Harvard citations fail in the case of a reference date spanning a number of years, e.g. "date = 1950–51" where the dash is written as "–", because the CITEREF label generated by {{
harv}}
and that generated by {{cite xxx|ref=harv}}
do not match.
I think this so silly that it should be fixed. 217.184.57.144 ( talk) 22:00, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
|date=
, the year is extracted and used to form the anchor. Use of anything other than a properly formed full date will generally cause the parser to extract the year improperly, usually as a time. Using |year=
will resolve this issue. ---—
Gadget850 (Ed)
talk 03:54, 14 October 2010 (UTC){{
cite journal}}
: Check date values in: |year=
(
help); Invalid |ref=harv
(
help){{
cite journal}}
: Invalid |ref=harv
(
help) Anyone have any idea how the harv template manages to substitute the html entity before generating the citeref and whether the cite template can be persuaded to do the same thing? —
David Eppstein (
talk) 17:15, 18 October 2010 (UTC){{
cite xxx}}
to generate "CITEREFDoe1950.E2.80.9351" when "–" is used for the publication year range? The hmtl entity "–" and the actual en-dash character could then be mixed freely, I suppose.
217.184.57.138 (
talk) 15:29, 20 October 2010 (UTC)See here. We need some changes to this template before we can update {{ cite video game}}. For instance, we require support for the following additional parameters:
SharkD Talk 01:34, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Can we atleast get support for:
The non-linear stuff while still nessasary would have to have some other way of dealing with it and as mentioned there is no stylation style that really deals with the issues of citing video games. 陣 内 Jinnai 20:03, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
|ref=
I would like to make a list of all the articles which use a citation template where |ref=something other than harv
. Does anyone have any advice about what tool to use? ----
CharlesGillingham (
talk) 04:03, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
{{#ifeq:{{{ref|harv}}}|harv||[[Category:templates using ref something other than harv]]}}
. This has the disadvantage that pages are only recategorized when they are edited.
Martin (
Smith609 –
Talk) 04:37, 20 November 2010 (UTC)We have trans_title, but I'm wondering if why we have that, but not translations for those. A lot of foreign webpages and book series use those. 陣 内 Jinnai 20:08, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
I've sandboxed a change removing a conditional on IncludedWorkTitle for displaying "ed" or "eds". This looks like a problem, but I don't understand why the conditional was there so I'm not publishing the change. This came about as a result of a discussion at Template talk:Cite book#Addition of "(ed.)" and capital "In". I'll suggest there that the discussion continue here. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 01:14, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
An apparently related comment has popped up at Template talk:Cite book#Ed.. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 00:36, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
I just added US application US20060036965 in a reference in Ribbon_(computing)#Controversy, but the link to the EPO doesn't seem to work.
click for an espacenet error => US application US20060036965, Harris; Butcher & Morton et al., "Command user interface for displaying selectable software functionality controls", published February 16, 2006
Could someone take a look at it? 165.170.128.65 ( talk) 20:24, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
{{
US patent application}}
(as does your example above) - this discussion page is for the {{
Citation/core}}
template: although {{
Citation/core}}
is used by several other templates, it isn't used by {{
US patent application}}
at any stage of the latter's processing. --
Redrose64 (
talk) 21:52, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
Consider these (arbitrarily formatted) citations:
{{
citation}}
: |last=
has generic name (
help).In each of these cases, the source has a "corporate author"; there is no author's name. What are the recommended ways to format these citations? How should the major citation templates support these? Do the citation templates need to be changed to support these? What should a parenthetical reference or shortened footnote for these sources look like? Finally, what is the proper term for these citations? (i.e. is "corporate authors" the right term?)
I am starting a parallel discussion over at WP:CITE, which hopefully will focus on the proper format. Here, I hope we can discuss how the template should support them. ---- CharlesGillingham ( talk) 19:24, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
{{
cite magazine}}
: Unknown parameter |month=
ignored (
help){{
cite journal}}
: |chapter=
ignored (
help); Cite journal requires |journal=
(
help)work
or publisher
field. In the third example, I think the author
is the most appropriate (that's similar to what you used – last
, but that's misleading: it's not a last name). Also, in the second example, I think it's enough to mention CNN once. As for shortened references – yeah, you have to invent some author, and I guess the corporate one (or its abbreviation) is a reasonable choice (but you may have to use the ref
parameter then).
Svick (
talk) 23:13, 25 December 2010 (UTC)These look right to me, but I am not an expert. I was hoping to find a definitive answer, because I would like to improve the anchor used when parameter |ref=harv
so that these cases fall out. I'm starting (yet another) discussion over at
WP:parenthetical referencing to see if they know anything. ----
CharlesGillingham (
talk) 06:58, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
For example:
{{Cite book |first=Michael H. |last=Freedman |first2=Frank |last2=Quinn |title=Topology of 4-manifolds |series=Princeton Mathematical Series |volume=39 |publisher=Princeton University Press |location=Princeton, NJ |year=1990 }}
produces:
I think the dot between "Princeton Mathematical Series" and "39" should be removed, corresponding with {{ cite journal}} (see Template:Cite journal#Examples). — bender235 ( talk) 01:19, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
If you use the same fields, then they are the same:
* {{Cite book |first=Michael H. |last=Freedman |first2=Frank |last2=Quinn |title=Topology of 4-manifolds |series=Princeton Mathematical Series |volume=39 |publisher=Princeton University Press |location=Princeton, NJ |year=1990}}
* {{Cite journal |first=Michael H. |last=Freedman |first2=Frank |last2=Quinn |title=Topology of 4-manifolds |series=Princeton Mathematical Series |volume=39 |publisher=Princeton University Press |location=Princeton, NJ |year=1990}}
{{
cite journal}}
: Cite journal requires |journal=
(
help)The difference is whether you use |journal=
. Without it, the title is considered as a main title and italicized. With it, the title is considered a short work and in quotes. The output then differs:
* {{Cite journal |first=Michael H. |last=Freedman |first2=Frank |last2=Quinn |title=Topology of 4-manifolds |series=Princeton Mathematical Series |volume=39 |publisher=Princeton University Press |location=Princeton, NJ |year=1990}}
* {{Cite journal |first=Michael H. |last=Freedman |first2=Frank |last2=Quinn |title=Topology of 4-manifolds |journal=Some Journal |series=Princeton Mathematical Series |volume=39 |publisher=Princeton University Press |location=Princeton, NJ |year=1990}}
{{
cite journal}}
: Cite journal requires |journal=
(
help)---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 04:35, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
{{#if: {{{volume}}} | '''{{{volume}}}''' | . }}
?{{{Sep|,}}}
from this part of the code: {{
#if: {{{Volume|}}}
|{{{Sep|,}}} '''<nowiki />{{{Volume}}}<nowiki />'''
}}
. Because there's also no reason to have a seperator between title
and volume
(if there was no series
). —
bender235 (
talk) 12:52, 8 January 2011 (UTC){{{Sep|,}}}
just removes the dot between title
and volume
or (if there is series
) between series
and volume
. That example you brought up is the rare exception that much rather deserves that "hard-coding work-around" you suggested above. In most cases, books with volume and series look like:
|series=Series title.
. But if the seperator is added by the template, there's no way to remove it afterwards. —
bender235 (
talk) 11:48, 9 January 2011 (UTC)Let's check consensus for no-dot volume: I agree that a simple if-else could omit the dot before volume, so we need to check the consensus for that style of showing a volume, such as 6: Title of work 6. Plus, we need to display, at times, "Title of work. Volume 6: Working at Home." That could be a different parameter such as "volume-name" beyond parameter "volume". Any objections to those changes? - Wikid77 17:52, 9 January 2011 (UTC)