The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
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The result was: promoted by
Cwmhiraeth (
talk) 05:43, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
Source1 (secondary): "And, despite strong opposition from Commissioner Taylor, they voted to recommend the transfer of the Bureau of Indian Affairs to the War Department." in Oman, Kerry R.
"The Beginning of the End: The Indian Peace Commission of 1867~1868". Great Plains Quarterly. Retrieved June 14, 2018 – via
Digital Commons., page 46, first paragraph, right column
Created by
GreenMeansGo (
talk). Self-nominated at 12:18, 14 June 2018 (UTC).
There are a number of images that could be used at
commons:Category:Indian Peace Commission, all older than dirt, and most likely or definitely taken by
Alexander Gardner (died 1882), but I have doubts about whether any of them would look right at such a small size.
GMGtalk 12:31, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
Article - - new, long enough, well sourced and a spot check didn't turn up any copyright vios or close paraphrasing
Hook - - satisfies the criteria. I suggested a possible alternative on the talk page
[1], but this one's fine and we can go with the editor's choice here.
QPQ -
Good, interesting, article.
Volunteer Marek (
talk) 05:59, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
Hi, I came by to promote this. It is a very fine article. The hook does it absolutely no justice. Would you consider writing something more juicy? You have plenty of information in the article. Thanks,
Yoninah (
talk) 22:13, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
Umm...well
Yoninah...maybe I have more of an appreciation for late 19th century executive branch drama than your average person. I guess if I wanted to go super mega click bait, I could say ...that the
Indian Peace Commission marked the beginning of a decade of war? The whole point is to emphasize the historical irony that by the end, Sherman and his war hawks had taken over, and the whole thing ended up being a failed "humanitarian" attempt at ethnocide in lieu of an official and explicit government policy of genocide.
GMGtalk 22:35, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
@
GreenMeansGo: I really have nothing against the first hook. I just don't think it will get many clicks. The second hook is moving in the right direction, but has no context. What do you think about:
ALT2: ... that the Indian Peace Commission, established by the
US Congress in 1867 to negotiate with and "civilize" hostile Indian tribes, ultimately gave way to a decade of war?Yoninah (
talk) 22:48, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
Purely stylistic
Yoninah, but I would go with ushered in a decade of war...also "Native American" because "Indian" is kindof a period term that's started to fall out of style in modernity. Actually, maybe even drop "hostile" and go with NatAm without a qualifier. "Hostile" was the stated intent, but they negotiated with people like the Navajo and Shoshone who weren't at war at all, so maybe that's giving Congress too much credit in a way that is "in world" from the perspective of the period US government.
GMGtalk 23:08, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
ALT3: ... that the Indian Peace Commission, established by the
US Congress in 1867 to negotiate with and "civilize" Native American tribes, ultimately ushered in a decade of war?
Yoninah (
talk) 23:14, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
ALTn: ...that the Indian Peace Commission, established by the
US Congress in 1867, to negotiate with and "civilize" Native Americans, ultimately ushered in a decade of war? GMGtalk 23:23, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
@
GreenMeansGo: Sorry, the commas are confusing. And why did you remove "tribes"? (It sounds more 19th century.)
Yoninah (
talk) 23:29, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
Hmm...yeah...that's fine. We can go with ALT3.
GMGtalk 23:41, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
Oh wait, but I would include "ultimately" as you originally did.
GMGtalk 23:42, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
OK, thanks. Calling on another reviewer to review ALT3. Pinging @
Volunteer Marek:.
Yoninah (
talk) 23:44, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
Yeah, I like ALT3 as well.
Volunteer Marek (
talk) 03:05, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
@
Volunteer Marek: could you review ALT3 and add an icon? Thanks,
Yoninah (
talk) 10:01, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
Adding the tick that Volunteer Marek implied so that this can progress.
Cwmhiraeth (
talk) 05:43, 2 July 2018 (UTC)