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Almost the entirety of this article is unsourced. The best I could find for where the text came from was
this diff, which doesn't provide any specific sourcing. I am removing the text and copying it below. Hopefully someone can find an acceptable source. There is also the obvious
WP:COI but that's secondary to the absence of sourcing.
USPP SWAT team
The United States Park Police
Special Weapons and Tactics Team has been in existence since 1975. This highly trained team is proficient with a variety of weapons including
submachine guns,
assault rifles,
sniper rifles, and
less-than-lethal weaponry. The SWAT unit conducts weekly high-risk search warrants and provides vehicular escorts and motorcade support for the
President of the United States, the Vice President, and visiting heads of state in the District as well as at
Camp David. The Park Police SWAT team often provides tactical support to the many
demonstrations in Washington, D.C. Also, in conjunction with the
Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences, Casualty Care Research Center, SWAT has trained thousands of personnel from police departments, military units, and fire departments from the United States and abroad in tactical
emergency medicine as part of the CONTOMS program.
When the Washington Metropolitan area was under siege during the 2002
Beltway sniper attacks, the SWAT Unit was flying daily missions with the Aviation Unit in an attempt to apprehend the fugitives. During the
Norman Mayer incident in the early 1980s the USPP SWAT team counter-sniper unit took action from the top of the
Herbert C. Hoover Building into a moving vehicle at the Washington Monument.
The United States Park Police purchased its first Harley-Davidson motorcycles in 1917. These Harley-Davidson motorcycles were assigned to the first sergeant and one private. The second sergeant and 41 privates were mounted on bicycles, one man left to be a "footman." During the fiscal year ending June 1917, the force handled 717 offenses. The most common charge was for drunkenness, for which the most common sentence was time at the workhouse. There were few serious offenses, the worst being six cases of assault and one of robbery. Twenty-five members of the force were called upon to arrest about 50 women for climbing on the Lafayette statues in Lafayette Park and holding a women's suffrage movement meeting there.
In 1919, the force acquired a major new responsibility with the acquisition of Rock Creek Park and its parkway. By 1920, with the addition of four additional motorcycles, traffic related offenses rose to 439.
As of 1921 the force had a lieutenant, three sergeants, and 53 privates. Two of the sergeants and seven privates rode motorcycles, the lieutenant, the third sergeant, and 45 privates rode bicycles, and the remaining privates were horse mounted. By 1925 the Motor Unit had grown to a force of twenty motorcycles for use on the "highways" of Rock Creek Parkway as well as East and West Potomac Parks.
With the increase in motor vehicles for the public came an increase in the use of motorcycles for the force. With this advance in "new transportation" came an increase in motor vehicle violations. This was evident from the 1942 memo which read "Special attention 'Motorcycle Men.' in the event an officer of this department has reason to stop a motorist for a traffic violation and fails to issue a ticket or arrest the person for such violation, he shall submit a written or telephonic report to this office before he goes off-duty. Signed Captain M.H. Raspberry." From 1931 to 1939, the force recorded 60 reported injuries to members of the Motor Unit, along with one death. During the early years of World War II, Motor Officers were directed to conduct "black-out drills" and assist with movement of civilians from their offices. Many changes occurred within the Motor Unit at that time as needs of the nation's capital changed with the progress of the war effort. There were added responsibilities of coordinating scrap metal drives, gasoline
rationing, etc. Memorandums from this time dictate that all "motor men" act in a professional and courteous manner.
During the course of the 1950s and 1960s, the unit had grown to approximately 60 motorcycle officers. The most common formal training received at that time to be "mounted" was a few laps around the maintenance yard.
Today, new officers are trained by IPTM-certified force motorcycle instructors. Training consists of an 80-hour course with road and off-road courses. There are required courses in high-speed pursuit, short-obstacle maneuvers, and an officer safety and survival course. In 1996, at the personal request of
King Hussein of
Jordan, three members of the training staff traveled to Jordan to train the royal family and Royal Guard.
Officers assigned to the Motor Unit are required to ride year-round. Officers are required to ride with a sidecar from November to March each year. This requires completion of an additional 40-hour course for each new member of the unit. This is mandated by the units' function as a Principal element in escort duties for the President, Vice President, and foreign dignitaries while in the nation's capital. The unit works closely with the Secret Service and the Department of State on these escorts. This Motor Unit has been escorting the President of the United States since its inception in 1921.
In 1995, due to injuries and retirements, the 16 remaining privates of the Motor Unit accounted for over 5,000 moving citations. During the September 11 attacks, members of the Motor Unit were among the first responders to the Pentagon, escorting government officials out of the city, and securing approximately one-third of the District of Columbia after the attacks.citation needed Members of the Motor Unit have also been detailed to travel to events such as the
1996 Summer Olympics in Atlanta, GA,
Death Valley, CA for
Outlaw motorcycle club rides, Boston and Philadelphia for
United States presidential nominating conventions, and other areas of large demonstrations. Officers of Motorcycle Unit account for one-third of the line of duty deaths in the 216-year history of the force.citation needed
Currently, the force has 30 assigned motorcycles in the Washington, D.C. metropolitan area and four assigned motorcycles in the San Francisco office. This creates a motorcycle unit that is assigned to both the East and West coasts of the United States, and that truly encompasses the name "United States Park Police Motor Unit.clarification needed
Canine Unit
The United States Park Police Canine Unit was established in 1959, the first in the Washington, D.C., area. Two years earlier, Chief Stewart sent Sgt. Alfred Beye to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Training Kennel in Nova Scotia, Canada. Sgt. Beye then trained with the Baltimore City Police Canine Unit and returned to train the first canines.
The first handlers were members of the Horse Mounted Unit. They trained each dog in different language commands, so that others could not control them. These included Spanish-Indian, German and Japanese. Once they trained the dogs, they would trot along next to the horse-mounted handler while he patrolled the horse trails. Eventually, the force only assigned the canine handler the duties of working with a trained dog. By the early 70's, only one canine team remained.
The Canine Unit is specifically trained for drug and explosives detection. This special unit also provides search and rescue services and assists in securing areas prior to the arrival of the President, Vice President, and visiting heads of state. In 1974 the force added the first explosives detector dogs. Also in the mid 1970s, the Force trained the first narcotics detector dog teams. Over the years the canine unit has moved between the Patrol Branch and the Special Forces Branch, to which it is currently assigned. The force currently has a number of canines which are assigned in Washington, D.C. as patrol dogs. Several of these dogs are also cross-trained in narcotics detection. The force also has officers and canines assigned as explosives detector teams in Washington, D.C. The force has a number of dog teams assigned in the New York Field Office and the San Francisco Field Office.
Horse Mounted Patrol
A mounted U.S. Park Police officer in Washington, D.C.
The horse-mounted unit was established in 1934, and is one of America's oldest police equestrian organizations in the United States.
Horse-mounted patrols are assigned to federal parks in Washington, D.C., New York City, and San Francisco. These nationally acclaimed officers and mounts are highly respected for crowd management techniques. They also function to maintain order during major demonstrations and special events and have been transported to other sites in the National Park system to control demonstrations.
The first use of horses by the United States Park Police followed the general trial-and-error method that prevailed throughout much of police work in those days. Rock Creek Park, a 1,900
acres (770
ha) tract of heavily wooded terrain lying in the heart of Washington, D.C. is interspersed with equestrian trails that required special policing methods for which the horse is ideally suited. Large park areas with open spaces, picnic areas, ball fields and other activities were soon found to be places where horses could patrol more effectively than foot officers or motorized vehicles. Because of this, stables were erected and new horse-mounted boundaries were established.
The nation's capital hosts many civic functions each year. Some of them are annual events and some have a national and international character, such as the
National Cherry Blossom Festival, the
Christmas Pageant of Peace, and
presidential inaugurations. During the 1960s and the 1970s, the horses, in addition to being an attractive unit for display in parades, were found to be highly effective in crowd and traffic management at these functions. The horses were properly trained and conditioned to maneuver in crowds of people and through heavily traveled roadways so they would not endanger the public, themselves, or other riders.
The U.S. Park Police Horse Mounted Training Staff receives numerous requests from outside agencies to provide them with training. This agency has assisted the U.S. Army, U.S. Secret Service, and police departments from Maryland, New York, West Virginia, South Carolina, Kentucky, Colorado, New Mexico and many others. Instructors are regularly requested to provide training at police seminars as mounted colloquiums held throughout the United States. The United States Park Police Horse Mounted Unit offers the 400-hour remount training free of charge to outside law enforcement agencies.
-Another problem I see. Bangabadu puts header called "Operations" and lists one article about kids being handcuffed for illegal vending and other incident were people were arrested for illegal activity at the Jefferson Memorial several years ago. Those 2 incidents are not day to day operations and should be removed. Sure they are properly cited, however the user is trying to paint the department in a bad light by saying these are daily occurences.
-The 2017 shooting is not the most noteworthy thing the Park Police has done. That a a biased statement. Taking down the Washington Navy yard shooter can be listed as such.
Can you guys tell me why Bangabandu feels the 2017 shooting has to be mentioned twice? Once is good enough. I feel there is a clear bias. Also it's not the most important aspect of the Park Police. In service since 1791 there are other things you can highlight. Like for the navy yard shooting that you have it listed as " Other Operations". The header should be titled different. They saved so many lives that day.
The shooting of Ghaisar belongs in the lede, with additional discussion later in the article. It is unequivocally the most noteworthy aspect of the Park Police. Not to mention that it is the only part of the article that has adequate citing.
Bangabandhu (
talk) 04:07, 8 August 2018 (UTC)reply
I don't agree that it belongs in the lede, as that appears to place undue emphasis per
WP:RECENTISM, and prefer the version I adopted. I'm also concerned about repeated apparent COI edits by park police and government IPs. There needs to be some consensus.
2601:188:180:11F0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (
talk) 04:15, 8 August 2018 (UTC)reply
What about this strikes you as relevant to Recentism? Its a story that has national attention and is not solely related to the shooting but to the PP's operations overall.
Bangabandhu (
talk) 04:19, 8 August 2018 (UTC)reply
This is a shooting of an individual that happened last year, and is the definition of recentism. The article has major issues, which you've noted, but placing this in the intro is undue. I've asked some admins to weigh in.
2601:188:180:11F0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (
talk) 04:24, 8 August 2018 (UTC)reply
Yes, it happened last year, and has generated hundreds of articles and national attention. What content do you think is more noteworthy in this entry? It might be undue weight if
their arrests of dancers were in the lede or
handcuffing kids selling water but the shooting is significant and notable enough. In fact, the two sentences in the lede may not be adequate weight.
Bangabandhu (
talk) 04:48, 8 August 2018 (UTC)reply
I'm skeptical. If the shooting had happened ten years ago, it wouldn't be considered for the lede. There's a distinction between an event of temporary consequence and the longer arc of what's permanently prominent, but I fear I'm merely repeating my previous contention of recentism.
Drmies restored the shooting to the lede, and I'd appreciate his thoughts. As far as cutting the unsourced content, bravo. And it's particularly important to observe edits coming from potential COI accounts in the park service and DC government.
2601:188:180:11F0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (
talk) 03:31, 11 August 2018 (UTC)reply
I'm not sure about that. It's almost been a year and the coverage shows no sign of abating. The language we've currently got there might be expanded as it prompts policy change. But I don't see any reason that it wouldn't be mentioned in ten years. Just because it hasn't happened before doesn't say anything about its lasting significance.
Bangabandhu (
talk) 18:58, 11 August 2018 (UTC)reply
Hmm. I actually don't believe the shooting should be in the lede, at least not right now. Sure the shooting needs to be mentioned, but if the shooting is "related to the PP's operations overall", reliable sources ought to say so, but that is a hard, hard argument to make: one would have to find a source that reliably argues that this kind of violence and/or whatever else went on in this case somehow exemplifies their MO. You can argue such things for, I don't know, the Gestapo or the KGB, but here, meh. BTW sure I restored it to the lead, but only as a revert: I disagreed with that IP's edit and argument and reverted.
Drmies (
talk) 04:03, 11 August 2018 (UTC)reply
That's tricky business sometimes. If this gets to a vote or something, based on the material we have at our disposal now, I say leave it out of the lede. I don't remember anything in those articles that mentioned that whatever happened was a result of longtime patterns or anything like that.
Drmies (
talk) 17:08, 11 August 2018 (UTC)reply
A valid point. If the incident is anomalous, it's difficult to see its purpose up top. If, however, it was a culmination of a history of controversial use of force, that would be another matter.
2601:188:180:11F0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (
talk) 17:16, 11 August 2018 (UTC)reply
I can understand how it seems anomalous as it currently reads, but there are plenty of articles that connect the shooting to Park Police policies and history. For example,
this article on their use of body cameras and
this one about its use of force. Even if there weren't this important context, the significance of the incident and the extensive, national - actually, international coverage - make it lede-worthy. [Unrelated, is it the norm to use an astrisk or a colon to reply in these discussions?]
Bangabandhu (
talk) 18:49, 11 August 2018 (UTC)reply
I trimmed the shooting of the individual from the lede tonight prior to reading about this on the talk page. I didn't think that one shooting from 2017, albeit a controversial one, merited belonging in the lede for the United States Park Police, which was formed over 200 years ago in 1791. I'm sure this isn't the only controversial incident in over 200 years of the force. If there is consensus that it should be included in the lede, feel free to revert, but at the moment it seems that consensus is not there for it to be included. Regards,
Kind Tennis Fan (
talk) 01:16, 10 September 2018 (UTC)reply
I don't think you're fairly characterizing the event. Its far more significant than a mere shooting and belongs in the lede. There have been minor controversies, a few of which have been discussed in the entry, though nothing reaching anywhere near the significance of the Ghasiar killing. This is the single most significant event for the Park Police in the past decade, by any measure - media hits, national attention, significance for the work and mission. That it is not yet resolved isn't a justification for its exclusion, but means that it should be carefully updated.
Also, Tennis Fan, what you've done with the refs is fantastic and all too uncommon among editors. Thanks.
Bangabandhu (
talk) 17:47, 17 September 2018 (UTC)reply
- Can a moderator please check this page because it has been hijacked in my opinion by Bangabandu. He/She has a clear bias against the Park Police. They have the 2017 shooting incident posted twice. In the operations sections they have the Thomas Jefferson Memorial dancing arrests and illegal vending incident listed as the only significant events. This dept has been around since 1791. I'm sure there are more to operations to this department other than arresting a group of protestors for dancing and detaining a group of kids for illegal vending on the National mall. There are cited sources for the Park Police saving lives at the Washington Navy Yard Shooting and for actually killing the gunman. bangabandu has this event listed as "Other Operations". Meanwhile Arrests for dancing and illegal vending is listed as main "Operations". The page is now locked for futher edits. Many other editors above agree that this 2017 shooting incident should not be in the Lede. Can a moderator please be fair and fix this hijacking of the page from someone with a clear bias. Please take a look at the changes this page has gone through from 2017 to now. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
164.82.32.13 (
talk) 02:54, 21 September 2018 (UTC)reply
Unsourced text
Also for Authority the Park Police as a federal agency have a broad jurisdication. The way one editor edited this portion is misleading. It's the same thing as going on the NYPD page and saying they don't have authority in NJ. It isn't necessary to state this and serves as another example of bias toward the dept. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
164.82.32.13 (
talk) 09:22, 20 September 2018 (UTC)reply
I'm moving more of the unsourced text here. Some of it is obvious
WP:PUFF in addition to being unsourced.
Today they are a full-service agency with patrol, scooter, bicycle, plain clothes, detectives, motors, horse-mounted, crime scene identification technicians, narcotics and vice officers, SWAT, aviation, marine patrol, intelligence/homeland security, traffic safety unit and four state-of-the-art dispatch centers serving Washington, D.C., Maryland, Virginia, New Jersey, New York and California. Additionally, captains oversee NPS regional areas and officers may be deployed throughout the United States and
US Territories at the request of the Department of the Interior or the National Park Service. One example would be the past deployment to the Dakotas to assist the
Bureau of Indian Affairs.
The Air Florida Flight 90 incident
The previous Superintendent of the NPS Training Center at FLETC, Donald W. Usher, was a USPP officer and helicopter pilot who, on January 13, 1982, assisted following the crash of
Air Florida Flight 90 in the
Potomac River in
Washington, D.C. Usher and paramedic officer
Melvin E. Windsor, were assigned to the Park Police's Aviation Unit and were flying Eagle 1, a
Bell 206L-1 Long Ranger helicopter from the "Eagle's Nest" base at
Anacostia Park. They saved four lives that day at great risk to their own safety. Officers Usher and Windsor were only two of the many Park Police officers who have received the U.S. Department of the Interior's Valor Award.
Admission to the U.S. Park Police
Park Police Officers must be U.S. citizens over the age of 21, but under 37 when they first apply. They must have at least 60 college credits or two years of military service at the time of appointment or combination of both. Upon completion of academy training(16 weeks of LMPT prior to 2008, 12 weeks of UPTP after 2009), officers are initially assigned to the Washington, D.C. area, where the largest contingent of Park Police is located. They are trained at the
Federal Law Enforcement Training Center (FLETC) in
Brunswick, Georgia. After training is completed at FLETC, new officers must successfully complete field training.
Dispatchers must be U.S. citizens at least 18 years of age or older, have college credits or prior dispatching or law enforcement/military/public safety experience. Dispatchers must pass pre-placement testing and a vigorous background check. Training is conducted within the district which they are assigned to.
An untemplated IP has recently added text, all of it sourced to this page -
https://www.nps.gov/subjects/uspp/index.htm
- which has one, three sentence paragraph, and a YouTube video. Very little of the addition is supported.
Bangabandhu (
talk) 14:08, 23 August 2018 (UTC)reply
Other unreferenced content
Hopefully somone can find a source for the following text and restore it to mainspace
Today, the U.S. Park Police has the responsibilities of providing policing in five districts in Washington, D.C. and surrounding areas, two districts in New York City and New Jersey, and one district in San Francisco.
District 1: Officers at Hains Point provide policing for the downtown D.C. area. Independence Avenue, Hains Point, Constitution Avenue, the Washington Monument, the
National Mall, the Memorials, the Ellipse, Lafayette Park and other NPS areas up Florida Avenue are covered by this station, as well as the
Rock Creek Parkway.
District 2: Officers provide coverage in three states at the GWMP Station. In Virginia, Fort Hunt, Mt. Vernon and the
George Washington Memorial Parkway are primary responsibilities. In the District, Humpback Bridge and Lady Bird Johnson Parks. In Maryland, the
Clara Barton Parkway is policed. Duties of these officers are similar to those of a state trooper providing round the clock coverage of major commuter roadways, performing crash investigations, and enforcement of traffic laws, DWI enforcement, and all other criminal investigations.
District 3: Officers of the
Rock Creek Park station provide coverage to
Georgetown, Rock Creek Park and the Fort Circle Park areas of NW and NE D.C.
District 5: (Anacostia Operations Facility) Officers of the Anacostia Station provide coverage to
Anacostia Park, Fort Dupont, the Frederick Douglass Home and many other NPS properties in the SW and SE quadrants of Washington, D.C. This station also patrols the
Suitland Parkway in Prince George's County, Maryland, as well as National Park Service sites in southern Prince George's County and parts of
Charles County, Maryland such as Marshal Hall.
The United States Park Police Marine Unit operates primarily out of both District 9 and Liberty District in the New York Field Office, providing coverage of National Park Service areas in
New York Harbor and
Jamaica Bay. Responsibilities of the Marine Unit include enforcing boating regulations, fish and wildlife protection, security zone enforcement, and search and rescue. The Washington, D.C. U.S. Park Police Marine Unit has been disbanded.
The Traffic Safety Unit operates primarily out of the
Washington, D.C. area, coordinating the department's alcohol, Drug Recognition Expert (DRE), Advanced Roadside Impaired Detection Enforcement (ARIDE), speed enforcement programs and DOT Commercial Motor Vehicle Inspections. This unit is also responsible for conducting investigations of major traffic accidents, that involve death or serious injury, in National Park Service areas. The Traffic Safety Unit trains park police officers, as well as officers from other agencies, on equipment such as; Radar, Laser, Intoxilyzers, tint meters, and PBTs (Preliminary breath test). This unit also provides training on
accident investigations, forensic scene mapping,
total station, and Standardized Field Sobriety Testing (SFST). The Traffic Safety Unit also coordinates the department's involvement with the Smooth Operator Program in the Washington, D.C. area, which targets aggressive drivers.
The Criminal Investigations Branch has personnel assigned to all U.S. Park Police areas nationwide. Assigned personnel consist of detectives, plainclothes investigators, identification technicians, and
civilians. Elements of the Criminal Investigations Branch are;
Major Crimes
Identification Section
Narcotics and Vice
Environmental Crimes
Other functions include
dignitary protection, assisting with demonstrations and civil disturbances, and participating in federal and local task forces.
The Special Forces Branch is responsible for coordinating the many large, high-profile events that occur in National Park Service areas in the
Washington Metropolitan Area (WMA). These events include
Demonstrations, festivals, and the
United States presidential inauguration, all of which can have millions of attendees. This branch of the U.S. Park Police, along with the National Park Service, creates incident action plans focusing on concerns such as public safety, emergency management, and transportation entities. The Special Forces Branch determines the size and scope of deployment of the department's personnel before and during an event. This personnel may include specialized units such as
SWAT, Aviation, reactionary teams, and Horse Mounted Patrol. The Special Forces Branch, along with the National Park Service and other law enforcement agencies, work to ensure the safety of all that are involved. This unit is also responsible for Presidential security and dignitary escorts. This unit may also assign personnel as needed by the
National Park Service or the Department of the Interior throughout the United States and its territories.
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Hello I am new to wiki. There has been on ongoing edit war and biased additions to the U.S Park Police page. I support neutral and fair editing or additions. User Bangabandhu has made many biased additions to the page which was already in good order. Talk feature with Bangabandhu has not worked and the user keeps reverting additions or edits I make. The challenges I would like to make to this page are as follows,
- 2017 shooting incident does not have to have two sections. One section is good enough and it does not need to be in the Lede. I think this is a fair and balanced request.
-Under Authority, this section is poorly sourced in reference to when Park Police can follow a vehicle out of their jurisdiction. I challenge this entry. If the editor cannot use a good source like DC,VA,MD code, or Park Police Policy I would like this entry removed.
-Under Operations, the Park Police have been in existence since 1791. I think the day to day operations consist of more than just body camera issues. Maybe an editor can add information about patrol functions. Someone looking to learn something about the agency will not learn much from the current information listed.
-Under "Other Operations", I feel editor "Bangabandu tries to downplay the significance of the Park Police role at the Washington Navy Yard shooting. There were cited sources which indicated the Park Police helictoper rescued shooting vitims on the roof of a building and also killed the gunman. "Other Operations" should be titled "Washington Navy Yard Shooting". And again the editor lists an incident where illegal vendors were handcuffed on the national mall and another where illegal food vendors where ticketed. For an agency that has been around since 1791 the editor has cherry picked 2 negative articles for this Wiki page that shows a clear bias. There are other topics and alternativly postive views that can be added. I ask that the incident with the illegal food vendors be removed.
Thank you for the assistance.
164.82.32.13 (
talk) 04:13, 21 September 2018 (UTC)reply
Not done, article is not protected. Fish+
Karate 11:41, 27 September 2018 (UTC)reply
Undue weight on a number of incidents.
I have considered reverting a litany of incidents that have been added to this article. While these incidents have been noted in the press, there is no evidence that they are particularly noteworthy. They may have
wp:undue. Would appreciate some discussion before doing so.
-- Work permit (
talk) 05:17, 21 September 2018 (UTC)reply
I support your recent changes and agree that the heading is unnecessary. The incidents that are less significant than the shooting deserve inclusion - we're talking about a few sentences and nothing more.
Bangabandhu (
talk) 15:32, 21 September 2018 (UTC)reply
I agree with your input. The page was fine the way it was before major editing occured. I'm fine if someone wants to leave the 2017 shooting on the page. However it only needs one section and does not to be in the lede. All the other non-sense with food vendors and illegal vendors can be left off the page. Body cams don't belong in the Operations section either. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
164.82.32.13 (
talk) 06:10, 21 September 2018 (UTC)reply
I don't know why Bangabandu feels those small events deserve inclusion when we could easily cite articles with arrests by the Park Police for outstanding Police work like arrests for armed carjacking, or emergency rescues conducted by the Dept? Can we please get some neutrality back to the page? User:Work_permit
unsigned comment added by
164.82.32.13 (
talk) 06:10, 21 September 2018 (UTC)reply
Please provide cites of incidents that you think are missing.
Bangabandhu (
talk) 03:18, 22 September 2018 (UTC)reply
Thanks for replying. What threshold would you suggest we apply for inclusion? Every news article in which the park police actions are discussed? I’m struggling to find an answer.
-- Work permit (
talk) 04:39, 22 September 2018 (UTC)reply
Its probably some combination of factors, including the amount of media coverage, the relevance of the incident to larger issues of policy and police procedure, the ongoing significance of the issue. Though right now it's all theoretical, as there aren't any specific incidents that we know are missing.
Bangabandhu (
talk) 20:09, 22 September 2018 (UTC)reply
Copyvio and copypasta
Large portions, if not the entirety, of recent additions to the page are copied verbatim from the NPS website. See
WP:COPYVIO.
Bangabandhu (
talk) 18:47, 12 April 2019 (UTC)reply
Content copied from public domain sources is not a copyright violation. See
WP:PD section 2.1. Attribution is still required.
Gab4gab (
talk) 22:01, 12 April 2019 (UTC)reply
Even if its public domain, its still plagiarism and paraphrasing is required. Wikipedia isn't a mirror of a USG website - at least that's my reading of
WP:COPYPASTE.
Bangabandhu (
talk) 22:40, 12 April 2019 (UTC)reply
Perhaps this quote from
WP:PLAGIARISM section 3.3 (my emphasis) will be helpful: "A public domain source may be summarized and cited in the same manner as for copyrighted material, but the source's text can also be copied verbatim into a Wikipedia article. If text is copied or closely paraphrased from a free source, it must be cited and attributed through the use of an appropriate attribution template, or similar annotation, which is usually placed in a "References section" near the bottom of the page (see the section "Where to place attribution" for more details)."
Gab4gab (
talk) 23:23, 12 April 2019 (UTC)reply
Ok, I'm impressed with your knowledge of the guidelines. Do you think blindly copying text from a USG website and pasted to a wikipedia entry, even if properly attributed, is in keeping with Wikipedia, with the pages you've read and edited?
Bangabandhu (
talk) 17:47, 13 April 2019 (UTC)reply
Hugh Irwin
I can find no evidence that he was convicted. Nor can I find evidence he is no longer alive. Per
WP:BLPCRIME I have deleted the entry. As an aside, I don't see evidence the alleged crime was committed while on duty, hence I don't see the relevance to USPP operations.--
-- Work permit (
talk) 03:57, 30 June 2019 (UTC)reply
Sounds good to me. Thanks for this and the reorganization.
Bangabandhu (
talk) 14:15, 30 June 2019 (UTC)reply
Propaganda again
Please do not turn this page into political propaganda page. In all articles about Law Enforcement agencies, Incidents are going at last part of the article. Here it is before "Organization" and "Structure". Just compare with other articles. Why this one should be different ? Stop using Wikipedia for personal purposes. This is not a place for political games. We have general structure, do not violate it. Or at least explain me why this article is specific and has different structure (comparing with other Law Enforcement agenices articles).
M.Karelin (
talk) 10:53, 10 September 2020 (UTC)reply
What exactly are you referring to? If there's a template, you should cite it here. The page is well-sourced and balanced. If you think there's something missing, you should add it.
Bangabandhu (
talk) 12:49, 10 September 2020 (UTC)reply
Corrected misdated info and reference as to appt of the new chief, erroneously cited as 2020, rather than 2021
Irish Melkite (
talk) 08:48, 12 March 2021 (UTC)reply
P-7 M-13
I notice that several police departments in the U.S. we're mentioned carrying the H&K P7 M13. I was a member of the Detroit Police Dept from March of 1972 until June of 1998. On April 1st, 1987, after an extensive testing of department volunteers, Detroit formed its first full time SWAT team called The Special Response Team. We carried the H&K P-7 M13 pistol. It was the most accurate pistol tested for DPD and exceeded all department specs. It was all steel and had plastic grips. For on the team use, we usually carried the Federal +P+ ammunition. Again the pistol functioned flawlessly.
I carry this great pistol during my time on the team for 11 years.
It was very dependable and accurate pistol I have ever used.
We fired so many rounds through these pistol and never had a stoppage or failure. I retired in 1998, wish I had one today.
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