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Concerning Flood Control Act of 1928 reference that Sheldonville added, this is the only law that had any type of explanation of the legislation itself, and the explanation referenced just one small but important part of the legislation. The explanation IS important and notable, but it might be best to actually go under the main article Corps of Engineers civil works controversies.
Also, since the Great Flood of 1927 was linked as the reference to FCA 1928, I went into it and put in the detail and a reference that actually connects the Great Flood with FCA 1928. 199.123.72.97 ( talk) 13:30, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
Perhaps something about the controversial nature of calling a piece of land a "wetland". There have been at least one Supreme Court case where the Army Corps of Engineers lost its case.
Given that Gen. Strock has now admitted that design flaws in the Corps-designed levees were responsible for the flooding of New Orleans, shouldn't that become part of the Corps history?
Agreed. There be should SOME mention of the mistakes made by the Corps insofar as the construction of the New Orleans levees somewhere in this entry. I've heard that the levees were supposedly rated for a "three" hurricane, but the Katrina flood surge was only equivalent to a "two". Yikes. -- Weirdoactor 15:16, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
Concur - but I would put it under a broader heading of mistakes, flaws or other failings (neutral wording needed). While they in general do a "good" job, there has been a number of high-visibility and massive dollar failings in some of their projects. -- FienX 15:27, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
"Some projects are said to have created profound detrimental environmental effects and/or provided questionable economic benefit such as the Mississippi River Gulf Outlet in southeast Louisiana. Faulty design and substandard construction have been cited in the failure of levees in the wake of Hurricane Katrina that caused flooding of 80% of the city of New Orleans." This passage is bad because it implies that the flooding of the city is either a "questionable economic benefit" or a "profound detrimental environmental effect," when what we're really talking about is loss of life due to negligence--a conclusion based on the Corps' own research. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.226.171.68 ( talk) 02:57, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
maybe there should be a place in the article for something about the changes made to the mississippi by them.
I'm thinking of starting a section called " Pork, boondoggles, and blunders". If it gets too long it can be moved to a new article. Any comments? -- Jagz 02:30, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
How is it that the few references in this article almost all come from one or two Army Corps of Engineers booklets. A lot of this looks and smells like propaganda. Another article, without the name US Army... would have a lack of references cited tag.
such as: citation needed or
Truthunmasked ( talk) 11:52, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
I think that the Operational Facts and Figures of the article on the United States Army Corps of Engineers should be much higher in the article because most people do not know about the extent of USACE's impact on the United States and they might not wade through the other "boring" (though relevant :) ) information to find these facts and figures out. From that standpoint, I think that it warrants being higher up in the article. Don'tKnowItAtAll ( talk) 13:44, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
I am confused as to Kozuch added the {{refimprove}} tag to this article. The references include the following:
That is a pretty wide range of references. Granted, some of the references are from the organization itself; however, when describing an organization, its missions, its history, and its goals, that would not be unreasonable.
I have removed the tag for now. Others may want to join in the discussion if desired. Don'tKnowItAtAll ( talk) 12:32, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
I have reverted the edits from the user CORNELIUSSEON contributed on November 16, 2008, the edit between a military organization and garrison is wrong. The USACE is not a garrison but an active U.S. Army organization. Furthermore, the placement of the insignia and plaque is unnecessary in an encyclopedia content. - Signaleer ( talk) 12:31, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
Excuse me, but USACE is NOT specifically a Civilian agency, but IS a Military Agency. it is the United States Army Corps of Engineers, and it is - by law - both a Combat Arm, AND a Combat Service. Indeed, it is the only such part of the US Army that IS both an Arm and a Service. The numbered units I prepared spend most of their time as Arms, rather than Services, which means that they carry weapons, and do most of their work in Camouflage. The Data I posted is mostly from the US Army Center of Military History, especially the Lineage and Honors. The rest is either from the unit's own web site, or from one of Shelby L. Stanton's "Order Of Battle" books, which are condensed from Center of Military History records. as to the Garrison issue, ALL US Army units have a Garrison Location. The term Garrison has to do with the location that is their designated Home Post. I suggest that you look at the Wiki article for further clarification: Garrison. As to the graphics, those were assigned to the units in question by the US Army Institute of Military History, and are OFFICIAL. If you are stating that I placed them on Wikipedia, you are wrong. They reside over on Commons, and are linked to the article.- SSG Cornelius Seon (Retired) ( talk) 18:08, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
I came to this article trying to find out information and/or links to Wiki articles about the military side of the USACoE, "combat engineers" including civil engineering in combat zones, training, training schools, etc. Frankly, I found the article rather weak in references and links to articles which would bear on those subjects. I realize that there may be many articles on Wiki which cover the subjects I mentioned, but it seems that I would have to do my own searchs to find them. The US domestic civil engineering side of the CoE is well covered in this article as it should be, but I think that it would be better served with more links to the military side of the CoE.-- TGC55 ( talk) 16:52, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Is it appropriate that of the tens of 1000's of pictures available, a West Point-graduate daughter of a retired army general is selected as an illustration of engineering "warfighting"? I don't see a connection between the subject matter and the illustration. Just saying. Perhaps a picture of Engineers in- I dont know... combat? signed: WPPA
an image of an engineer in a warfighting scene would better illustrate the concept of combat engineering. signed: WPPA 98.167.202.148 ( talk) 03:34, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
USACE has spent a lot of time, effort, and taxpayer dollars working on its "branding" and trademarking. The preferred way to reference USACE from a branding standpoint is "US Army Corps of Engineers" ("U.S. Army Corps of Engineeers" is also seen frequently enough to be a dual personality). They almost never refer to themselves as "United States Army Corps of Engineers", even in formal press releases.
I'm wondering if it would be better to make the title to this article the "US Army Corps of Engineers" and make "United States Army Corps of Engineers" as the redirect rather than vice versa as currently is.
Thoughts?
There are currently the following redirect pages; the bolded ones are the USACE preferred methods of self-reference: U.S. Army Corps of Engineers U.S. Army Corp of Engineers US Army Corps of Engineers US Army Corp of Engineers US Corps of Engineers US Corp of Engineers U.S. Corps of Engineers U.S. Army Corp of Engineers U.S. Corp of Engineers Corps of Engineers Corp of Engineers Army Corps of Engineers Army Corp of Engineers USACE USACOE ACOE COE
Don'tKnowItAtAll ( talk) 20:24, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
I suggest that the names of incumbents in executive positions is not sufficiently notable to mention them here, unless the individuals themselves are notable. It requires unnecessary maintenance. This article is not a proxy for the USACE PAO website function. Just keep the current Chief of Engineers in the infobox--that should be sufficient. Those wanting to know names of incumbents can follow links in references that support the description of the command structure. User:HopsonRoad 18:00, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
This long list of bullets contains items that should be references supporting descriptive text in this section. One has no idea of what are contained within the cited laws without clicking on each link to search through what one finds there. This is contrary to the intent of Wikipedia and the Manual of Style. User:HopsonRoad 03:35, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
Emergency Response: The Wikipedia article on the Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act and the National Response Framework do not mention a role for the Corps. Citing public laws without proper references smacks of original research, not using tertiary sources. Therefore, I'm commenting out this section, for now. User:HopsonRoad 14:29, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
I commented out the entire section until it can be written in clear, concise, descriptive language that summarizes, rather than lists the effect of the public laws in question. For now, it consumes too much space while providing too little information to a typical reader of an encyclopedia. User:HopsonRoad 14:37, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
I recommend looking at the Manual of Style's guidance on when and how to use embedded lists before restoring content in this section. User:HopsonRoad 15:00, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
What does the Martis Creek picture have to do with the article? there is no reference to it, it's just randomly inserted and makes no sense. -Sincerely, concerned wikireader. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.242.218.91 ( talk) 20:41, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
This article should be distinguished from the US Army Engineer Branch/Regiment "The US Army Corps of Engineers" and the organization US Army Corps of Engineers (USACE). This article is used as universally used as a link to the Engineer Branch when the article is in fact about the general engineering organization USACE, overseen by the US Army Engineer Branch. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WIKI1Q2W3E4R ( talk • contribs) 10:01, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
This New York Times article might be useful as a reference for this article: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/24/us/decade-after-katrina-pointing-finger-more-firmly-at-army-corps.html " http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/24/us/decade-after-katrina-pointing-finger-more-firmly-at-army-corps.html" Eastmain ( talk • contribs) 19:46, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
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what percentage of US military personnel with a combat engineering rank/role is actually a part of this corps? 37000 ppl with only 2% military seems to indicate that most aren't — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.227.26.211 ( talk) 10:18, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
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Hi Folks, does anybody know where the Europe Division of the United States Army Corps of Engineers (a proper corps). This article Ernest James Harrell seemed to be in command of then. I cant see an article about that Division. Thanks. scope_creep Talk 21:37, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
In the past, the USACE installed benchmarks at various points to aid in surveying land and structures, as in this photo. Does USACE still install these markers? Or is this only something that was done in the past? Either way, I think it should be mentioned in the article. Pete unseth ( talk) 20:25, 18 June 2022 (UTC)